The Tyrant wasn't epic enough?!

The Tyrant (hammerhead) is big, and tough, but the Overlord is a tad larger and actually can bring more firepower to the battle with its full complement of plasmids *and* the frontal big guns. The Tyrant is built for taking on big ships and duking it out face-to-face. The Overlord is built for overall firepower and the ability to pretty much be a danger to everything. Its not as well armoured and shielded as the Tyrant though. So it basically boils down to survivability vs. damage/versatility. The side point-defense pods of the Overlord enable it to virtually decimate enemy strike craft by itself, for example, while the Tyrant is totally unable to defend itself from such small attackers.

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The Xin: ruthless, totally alien and unrelenting. They sport advanced technology (far more advanced than any of the existing factions) which reflects in their ships - they are tough, very well armed - but expensive to make and maintain. The Xin are meant to be defensive in nature, that is their ships and structures are geared towards dishing out massive damage and soaking up the same, but they are slow and difficult to adapt to a flexible foe. This is especially true when it comes to their home turf vs. enemy or unclaimed sectors; while they have the technology to build a sort of wormhole network between all of their owned systems which enables them to zip around pretty quickly between their worlds, their native slow sublight and phase speed means they struggle when it comes to hit and run tactics or facing down a more speedy foe.

Also, playing with the Xin you have to be careful not to suffer a catastrophic defeat, as they have smaller fleets of powerful ships which, if lost, take time to replace. Fighting on the defensive, however, the Xin excel - they are meant to very tough to root out once they've had some time to fortify a sector.

So to summarize:

-powerful vessels (roughly 2x equivalent amongst other factions, in the case of the Remnant, its 4:1 in the favor of the Xin)

-expensive to build and develop (you will need a lot of resources to run them smoothly)

-slow ship speeds both phase and sublight (painfully obvious with the mod's expanded gravity wells)

-technology allowing for extremely quick travel between owned gravity wells, does not help with sublight speed though

-cool looking ships

The Xin are slow, period.  Slow phase, slow sublight, slow turning.  Hitting them in their flanks or rear will REALLY cause them grief since they can't turn for crap and they have little to no guns in those arcs.  So sneak attacks + micro will win you the day.

P.S. ManSh00ter, when you introduced the Hegemony as showing up and showing the other races how to wage real war, well whenever I think of them I can't help but be reminded of this vid:

AMOC Intro Vid

Yeah I know he's pissed.  Its just from what you told me the Hegemony remind me of "insert arrogant ancient race here".  And it was just that whole intro thing when he says "Real War is Coming" that reminded me of the Hegemony and them showing up to show everyone else how wars are fought.

I'm sure he's mentioned that fleet cost will take into account ship power, it only makes sense.

First of all, I'd like to say that I've been here pretty much since this mod started, albeit in the shadows and not active on the forums or on your new(er) ModDB profile. I was a huge fan of the feeler, as well as Mr. Space Whale, heh. I love how far things have come from then, myself being part of a few mods in the past, I commend the sheer amount of effort (or, if it's not a matter of effort for you) the sheer amount of SKILL you have at pushing full steam ahead, churning out new things at a constant rate and not backing down from your goal. Never give up with this mod, so far it's proving to be even greater than most full games that have recently come out! In many respects, your additions, revisions and overall implementations are beginning to dwarf Sins in and of itself.


I envy you, "ManSh00ter" and wish every modder, myself included, had the zeal and dedication you seem to possess so fully.


Aside from bowing to you and marveling at your work thus far, I came with a bit of an offer. I know this work of yours is a solo project, to which I am amazed, though if anything I can offer could benefit you in any way I'd give everything I could. I have absolutely no modeling, coding, or texturing skills whatsoever and have never even touched a 3D rendering program. However, as I said, I've been part of a fair number of mods as a Lore, Infocard, Story and campaign designer. Essentially, I write the things that the player finds themselves immersing themselves in, the storyline.. the plot.. the underlying background and lore that, while not inherently important, allow the player to truly lose himself in the experience. If you would like, I'd gladly offer my skills in whatever way I could to you. Perhaps (depending on the time until full release) I could help you in creating a full story-like campaign between the Episodes which would chronicle the arrival of the Xin, and the sheer destruction that follows after (possibly including specific engagements, dates and the gauging of the devastation this new menace brings with it).


Either way, I've made this post far longer than I should have.. Keep up the phenomenal work ManSh00ter!

OMG

I am still playing vanilla Sins but if I ever get a chance (read time) to try a Mod - this will be THE one!

Man! I prefer your models to the original game ones!

This simply looks amazing!

Is this mod available yet? I mean at least some alpha / beta version of it or something?

Sorry for my ignorance but this is first time I see this page

The next update will be a fairly big one, I'll have a couple of capital ships and some smaller ones to show off. Along with more actual action shots, instead of just models. But the past week has been hectic for me, haven't had much time to work on the mod plus I have to finish Volumetric 1.0 by tomorrow so after I'm done with that I'll get back on working on the Last Stand.

@Nephilim, glad that you like the mod! There is no downloadable version yet, keep checking this thread for updates though. I won't release an alpha because at that stage I don't really need testers, and I do not believe in releasing half-finished works. But a beta is definitely scheduled and will be released as soon as the core of the mod, that is the art/unit assets and basic research tree, are done. I plan on this mod being multiplayer friendly so it will require exstensive testing before it passes beta stage.

Man that looks awesome! I assume you were going for the "squidy" look when you did its rear end?

Yeah, the whole whip is designed after a squid.

The hangars are on the bottom side of the ship. All eight of them.