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Why can I play SINS without CD?

April 1, 2008 2:23:20 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire ForumsSins of a Solar Empire Forums

Does it supposed to be like that or is it a mistake ?

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Reply #1 April 1, 2008 2:27:52 PM
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It's by design.  Why should people that bought a game have to work to play it?
Enjoy.
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Reply #2 April 1, 2008 2:35:49 PM
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It's because Stardock trusts you to do the right thing and not to steal from them by illegally copying the game. If you do so you're only screwing people out of their hard-earned money.
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Reply #3 April 1, 2008 2:37:50 PM
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Why would you think you need the CD in the drive?

Oh, yeah, because tons of stupid, idiotic, moronic, feckless, brainless, creativeless, corporate morons seem to think thats an effective method of copy control.

Thankfully, SD is more than halfway intelligent. Not only do you not need the CD in the drive, they don't care if you install it on multiple computers (that you own). Don't go around spreading your account to a half dozen friends, mind you, but if you want to play a LAN game up to 2 people can use any given CD key. (Not applicable on ICO).
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Reply #4 April 1, 2008 3:12:53 PM
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In short, Stardock opted to not put any copy protection at all on the disc, instead relying on tying the patching process to a valid cd key.

Basically instead of trying to restrict piracy of Sins, they're rewarding those who bought it legit with patches and such
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Reply #5 April 1, 2008 3:24:46 PM
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Does it supposed to be like that or is it a mistake ?
Ask not why the cd doesn't need to be in the drive - ask why the cd for other games must be in the drive to play them.

Not having to apply a no-cd patch is a welcome change for me. As a laptop gamer, lugging around 40+ cd's for various games is a pain in the ass, which is why no-cd patches are such great things for me. It's also good for companies in the long-term since they won't have to deal with fixing stolen cd-keys resulting from malicious no-cd patches.
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Reply #6 April 1, 2008 3:44:53 PM
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That system worked well. I "borrowed" my acct to my friend and his dad and they went out an hour later and both bought their own copies because they were impressed with the game and the company that made it. We've enjoyed many MP games since then!
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Reply #7 April 1, 2008 9:14:56 PM
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You don't need the CD because...the Stardock people are not douchebags.
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Reply #8 April 1, 2008 9:20:38 PM
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Reply #9 April 1, 2008 9:25:36 PM
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ok i get it now.... enough  
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Reply #10 April 2, 2008 5:13:59 AM
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You don't need the CD because...the Stardock people are not douchebags.


I'd fight Kryo, at any rate.
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Reply #11 April 2, 2008 6:27:50 AM
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Heck, I even convinced my Mac-user friend of mine to dig out his dual OS boot and buy the game!
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Reply #12 April 2, 2008 7:21:31 AM
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Duder, it's cause teh Stardox has the special abilities and put teh rookix on your systemx omg LMAO LOLZ!

Sorry, I had to make a responce that had as much wit as the question
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Reply #13 April 2, 2008 7:51:59 AM
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"The reason why we don't put copy protection on our games isn't because we're nice guys. We do it because the people who actually buy games don't like to mess with it. Our customers make the rules, not the pirates."

Funny story, my wife's father was a serious PC gamer for years. For some reason, he got repeatidly burned by games that refused to recognize he had the CD in the drive, when he actually did (seems to be some sort of hardware compatability issue with the drive and the DRM).

After dealing with that for years, he recently bought an Xbox 360. He was never a pirate, he just wanted to be able to actually play the games he was paying for.

So when people say that piracy is killing PC gaming, I'd have to reply by saying that copy protection is killing PC gaming. After all, thats the one driving away actual customers.
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Reply #14 April 2, 2008 7:56:30 AM
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Valve/Stardock have the right idea. Stardock seems nicer than steam for ofline play though.
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Reply #15 April 2, 2008 8:30:42 AM
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Valve/Stardock have the right idea. Stardock seems nicer than steam for ofline play though.


Um, Valve requires an internet connection to play its "boxed" games.

SD lets you play them, its just a PITA to actually patch them without direct access.
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Reply #16 April 2, 2008 8:59:55 AM
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Valve... *blach*
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Reply #17 April 2, 2008 12:38:21 PM
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Ron, you can play Steam games w/o an Internet connection, but you need the 'net initially in order to register the game. After doing so, you can disconnect from the Internet, run Steam, Steam will note that you're offline (as long as you have the settings checked properly to cache your user information on your PC), and let you play anyway.

It took Valve a long time to get this working right, but now it does. It was a mess for years.

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Reply #18 November 22, 2009 11:55:20 AM
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Thank you, Stardock, for thinking of ME, the CUSTOMER and understanding that, though I love your game, I dont really want to carry the CD around with me everywhere I go.

What a great feeling to know that I don't have to be at a disadvantage to someone who pirates the game as a paying customer. This is how you solve piracy, by treating your customers like paying customers, rather than hostages, and preserving simplicity.

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Reply #19 November 22, 2009 1:12:05 PM
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Since years I play only these games which do not require the cd/dvd to play it. I hate the sound of my cd/dvd-drive.

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Reply #20 November 22, 2009 2:16:34 PM
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You don't need the dvd because, hard drives these days can allow you to literally copy entire dvd and still allow you to do other thing on your comp, and because it is a logical progression from running things from 6 inch floppy to floppy to cd to dvd to harddrives

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Reply #21 November 23, 2009 5:14:11 AM
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That system worked well. I "borrowed" my acct to my friend and his dad and they went out an hour later and both bought their own copies because they were impressed with the game and the company that made it. We've enjoyed many MP games since then!

 

I did the same thing. I borrowed a friends account.

Now I have bought SOASE, Entrenchment and pre-ordered Diplomacy.

Good work Stardock, actually making us want to buy the game.

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Reply #22 November 23, 2009 10:57:27 AM
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Just let dead threads lie, please.

Edit: Ugh, ugly post.  Sorry. Is fixed now.

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Reply #23 November 24, 2009 8:37:47 PM
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but,... drm and steam still needs to be pissed on.

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Reply #24 November 25, 2009 12:41:26 AM
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I love IC and Stardock. I buy games from Impulse because of no DRM. I hate having to use the CD to play, or having to launch Steam.

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Reply #25 November 25, 2009 12:30:35 PM
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Its Magic..

A long long time ago, in a land far far away called Michigan. A society of Magicians called StarDock waved their fairy dust all over the SINs CDs in an attempt to brainwash any who touched the CD. But it backfired and now when you go to play your game. You dont need the CD to play it. Now every year on Hollows Eve, you can hear the disappointed groans of those Magicians in the distance in northern Michigan.

The End.

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