Interesting figure.... what is your source?

Whenever I see something like this stated, I have to challenge it.

I bet you no one favors Obama over McCain except locally in the US with regards to U.S. voters.

The world probably does not favor one over the other - why would they?

I'm only counting Iraqi casualties since the invasion, since the numbers in the original email quoted in this thread compared American casualties in Iraq to the murdet list in Chicago, convienently forgetting that American lives aren't the only one being lost in Iraq .

To answer the Saddam Question. America didn't seem to care so much when they hung the Kurds out to dry at Gulf War 1. and the ..12 years between the end of GW1 and this war. so why did America have to wait untill 2003 and then make up shit about 'ties to 9/11' and 'Mobile WMD factories' and shit like that to get America into this war?

DO you know how to tell the truth?  Apparently not.

DId not create Saddam Hussein (that would be stretch even for a loon).

Pushed Saddam out of a soveriegn country (I guess you answered my previous question - i.e. if they are not Americans their lives are worthless).

Must be chinese now since they got the oil contract.

If you are going to post like an idiot, do it on an idiot web site, not here.

Not even in your wet dreams.  The "reputable" ones put it at a 3-7% race (about right).  It will probably be in the 3-5% range on the win side.  Still, it shows that you dont know what you are talking about.

A proper rebuttal has facts.  SO far you have none.

So you are proving yourself the fool.  Guess what?  The world is not China and Europe.

I would guess you are young with mush in your head filled with a bunch of hippie teachers.  So far, you have gotten nothing right (oh, and check out the article where the courts stated Wikipedia is not an authoratative source).

Nixon got us out of JOhnson's war.  SO you were wrong when you made the statement and you are wrong here.  NO guns to heads.  Just a very perverted view of history.

Wrong all the way around!  He did nothign in conjunction with JOhnson, the french were long gone when Kennedy got into it. 

I take it history is not your strong point.  But unfortunately for you, history will show you how myopic and wrong you are. 

You dont read much do you.  Care to reread the part you quoted and then ask a germaine question (or give an intelligent statement)?

You obviously don't , because this line of discussion STARTED when someone posted an email comparing American casualties in Iraq withe the murder rate in Chicago. Comprehension isn't your strong suit. How about you come back after you reread the thread?

Can't believe I missed this one........

I remember sitting in line to buy gas which had double in price in the matter of a few months.

I remember that the person on food stamps could eat steaks and roast while a middle cclass family could only afford hamburger helper.

I remeber seeing old people on fixed incomes eating cat & dog food to survive and freezing to death in unheated apartments during the winter because they could'nt afford the gas bill.......but as usual liberals want to rewrite history......

Fuck it , I'm done.

Island Dog. The Internet is what it is . This thread didn't change my mind one bit and is so off the original topic , it should be locked .

All this thread has proved is that anything can be twisted to suit an agenda on both sides. I'd love to critically think about this but it's difficult.

Good luck on November 4th, America,

Right on!!!!!

Our years and experience count, and the younger "Ideologues" lack the humanity to realize that....but that's always the case with self-righteous Idealogues.

Wait, people actually think Carter was a good President? Correct me if im wrong but the guy did absolutely NOTHING while President. As a matter of fact I'm pretty sure I had read that he defines the word nothing. Other than trying to push for solar energy the guy sat around and twiddled his thumbs all day. I don't know what Carter you people may be talking about but the Carter I've read about was a failure at leading everything.

that's just it, steve. you READ about it! i LIVED it! you talking like you know anything at all about what it was like under the Carter administration is like me talking about life under the Grover Cleveland Alexander administration. unless you lived it and can speak of it with actual knowledge, shut up! oh, and by the way, half the stuff Reagan took credit for in his first term (especially in the military field) was started while Carter was in office.

Is that the 'new' free speech?  

Well we have made it to 15 pages, and for the most part it has remained civil, but many of the points I have made were validated in some form or another in this thread. 

Actually, history has already proven me right on all these points.  I only chose Wikipedia as a simple enough for anyone to understand example.  This is why I left the CITATIONS and footnotes in.  But did you both to check any of them?  Or are you just going to pretend that all of those reputable sources, often quotes from the very same people we are debating here, are wrong?

How far is YOUR head in the sand? 

And again, I included citations and quotations.  Where are yours?