To the contrary, while everything I know along with my faculties tell me that you are full of it - I have once principle that tends to be stronger. It is the principle of always be open minded. I may disagree, and the facts may support my point - but I'm always going to be open minded to possibilities and chances to prove such points. If I didn't do that, I would be a hypocrit.

She is a strong, strong lady; I respect her greatly and admire her even more. I, quite literally, wouldn't be here if it wasn't for her.

I understand, and I'm similar to a point. I have Christian friends, as well as Muslim friends. So, while I find religion to be silly, I am open and willing to be friends with such people. I wouldn't put things so much as agenda, so much as passion. Your opinion and those of your type that actively promote it are your passionate, which is understandable. Still, in my opinion, there are some cases where such "agendas" as you claim - are good. Think about it, without an agenda for black rights, we wouldn't be where we are today with black rights. Or women's rights for that matter. Agendas can be a good thing.

One person's agenda is another person's justified cause, right? 

yall have gone and done it now. 

by making such a huge ado about less than nothing, you've convinced your heroine that god looked down upon her strutting around in her bikini and becameth so well pleased he doth choseth her to delivereth his word to the peoples of the earth.

for lo, she spaketh thus to the oracle at foxnews, neil cavuto, when encountering him in the holy place of the murdochians:

"I think that I was the one that was blessed enough to get this question. I am so blessed that I was able to speak my mind, my thoughts, my convictions in front of millions of people."

bad enough, but it don't stoppeth there.

apparently sister carrier is of a mind that being elevated to join the elect just may qualify her to join the elected as well.

cuz therefore and whereupon as she madeth ready to withdraw and journey forth unto her home, she prosephied, saying: "I am continuing my modeling career. I'm not sure how far that is going to lead me,  Maybe get into politics, you never know."

whosoever says to his brother, thou fool may be liable to the fires of gehenna, so i'm not gonna say that exactly.

just gonna point out if yall keep this one going, it won't be long--like a few hours of wink practice--before she winds up as your next vp candidate.

Nope.  Never would've heard a word about it were it not for the vicious hate-monger non-celebrity Perez Hilton.  If, faced with the choice of coming down on the side of Miss California or Perez Hilton, you come down on the side of the latter, you have a serious reality-acceptance problem like Perez (who apparently has way more problems than that).

From what little I know of you, I suspect you just like tweaking noses & giving people wedgies.  I choose, for the moment, to consider your comments as part of that fine legacy.

There seems to be, in my mind, a contradiction here.  She was brought up Christian and has Christian values.  I guess that was well known even by, I assume, Hilton by the post conversations. 

While there's nothing about not attending or having anything to do with beauty pagents in scripture, we actually do see one in the book of Esther with Esther winning the prize....the king.  And it was quite the beauty pagent by the sounds of it. 

But to me, Miss CA's very scantily clad body has no bearing on the sanctity of marriage so much as it is not being modestly apparelled and promoting lust as in maybe causing a "brother" to sin.  We are not supposed to do that.

For that reason, I wouldn't wish or encourage my daughter (if I had one) to participate. 

Maybe in her mind she thought as Miss America she could do some earthly Christian good.  Whatever the case, it looks like her faith has been strengthened and she doesn't seem bitter about losing.  I would not like to see her sue tho.  If she does, I wouldn't support it. 

well you helped celebrate so what does that make you? Hmmmm? 

unlikely he'd wind up doin that.  but since the event in question was not the miss america pageant but rather the miss usa contest...and since miss usa is owned by a non-lisping but no less obnoxiousl self-aggrandizing a-hole named donald trump...there just may be some sorta symbiosis at work here.

there are big differences between the two pageants (snigger): miss usa has no talent competition and miss america contestants don't have to suck up to (or off) trump.

Yes, I know they are differnt, and I did name the wrong wrong, but do you have an actual pertinent point? The guy is a douche who used an inappropriate venue to try and advance a politcal agenda. If it were a right wing political point would you be as accepting? It was wrong of him, period.

Sadly, this is how some deflect attention away from the real issues, by denigration of the participants and dismissively claiming those participants are 'unworthy' of the issues so why bother with them.

exactly.  When they have no argument they go after the person. 

sometimes but not always the case.  Look at the recognition of Susan Boyle for instance.  No looks, no money.  She opened her mouth and a beautiful sound came out that everyone recognized and appreciated. 

All the above seems much ado about nothing--after all, Miss NC is a hotter chick.

except for the "bimbo" part.  I applaud her for standing up for her convictions when it's much easier to hem and haw like the rest of them are doing these days. 

i'm guessing those of you who were unhappy with me for having characterized this bimbo as a bimbo have never had any direct contact with "models".   models as bimbos (and vice-versa) is a perfect example of fact-based cliche in my experience and professional opinion.  professional as in i was once responsible for overseeing a 40+ person production staff, a number of whom were photographers.   one day i stopped by the studio in the early afternoon and overheard the following conversation between two of their pretty lil models: 

bimbo #1: this is really great thai food!

bimbo#2: it's soo good. where does it come from?

bimbo#1: i dunno...maybe japan?

another day i was approached by a model who'd been discussing this guy she'd met the previous night with some of my editors who then suggested she ask me the same question she'd just asked them:  did i know anything about "a guy named bob dylan?  he's supposed to be famous or something." 

i could seriously damage my fingers and my mood providing you with more testimony but hopefully you get my drift.

i may not be all that intuitive but i'm fairly adept at identifying bimbos.  believe me, this bimbo keeps getting press coverage and pretty soon you will too.

Unless the stereotype is their stereotype & serves to demean those with whom they disagree.  Can't you just feel the love?  More of that change you can believe in.  I just had no idea how much more tolerance & understanding was going to be washing over us after the election of the One who will stop the ocean's rise.