I havnt seen it, but who knows, maybe I hear it on a commercial. I have no idea.

I was in this game against Cow and Aloullette and few things didn't go their way for the following reasons:

1) Cur2 vs Cur1 (as the game progressed to giants, they clearly didn't have the money to support the upgrades)

2) 2 kills vs 7 kills when the giants rolled in (again didn't have enough money to do any upgrades)

3) When an oak has 0 kill in the late game, you can't justify purchasing a Jboot.  Note that, Jboot is one of my fav item and it not only gives you the speed but also HP (great for HP stackinig)

4) Cow's team did have a good control of the flag and did capture our portal at one point, but they didn't have the creeps to support it.  We were just hitting Cow (UB) first and his mates didn't do much to support him. 

I think the game would have been different if the money was spent on the citadel instead of the jboot.  When I play ere/oak, i usually go with narmoth, 2helms, unbrk boots, wand of speed, then sell everything except the 2helms to support the cita near the end.

sorry that i said you sucked alloutte. i didn't say because you had j-treads. just that cow is a DG friend, and i was backing him up for the heck of it.

just don't take the squabbling into all-chat unless you want someone from the other team to comment. and, sorry, but it was in your power to win that game. It was a damn close game. if you had  sheild locked our left port, we would have been done.

i had actually accepted that loss, but my team mates kept me in it. funny because i'm the one usually telling people to stay positive, it wins games. we crawled back from having a half destroyed cit and 2 war ranks behind. my comment was uncalled for. truly sorry.

Hey Pat, just to clear up something. Alouette didn't ask me to whine here...I did it on my own. I convinced her to start playing DG and I had suggested the boots. I appreciate Xynth apologizing for the comments so I think that beef is eaten.

I think now I want to figure something out. Okay so we agree or disagree on the boots, and most people think it's good to get at least most of the creep upgrades after giants.

One person said hungarlings...one person said they sold all of their stuff. But I think there are more strategic methods/purchases out there. C'mon guys this is why we have a forum.

Awesome!   I wish i could get my wife to play lol.  

Thats a very good reason to get journeymans, try wand of speed sometime as well. Wand gives you a higer speed boost albeit short lives (unless j-boots are proc'd), is a lot cheaper than j-treads and for essentially the same amount of gold allows you to swap your vlemish with hungarlings (or upgrade to groffling) and grab locks and port scrolls. 

I play oak almost exclusively as well.  I can't tell you how many shields i've missed lol.  Each time certainly ends up with me getting yelled at lol. 

My favorite is when someone is at 30%+ health and no longer being targeted and is hollering for a shield lol.

Anyways, Mcshance has a good point as well, attack speed helps tremendously! (especially with narmoths or other life steal)

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I'm not saying that I don't like journeymans, I have gotten them several times with Oak.  But if you have cloak of flames, you can port in, use shield to avoid damage, kill the other team, have one of your teammates lock the portal, then casually walk away lol.

I think so, because it's also a +1000 mana and 25 mana per second.  And an 800 damage area attack.

I'm a noob for not buying a mana helm on a DA build according to mchshane87.

fact is i am damn sure i have beaten many of his clan mates with that DA build.

It's not what you buy. its how you use it.

Any character without mana is pretty much pointless, not just a DA.