Dragger201

Join Date 05/2002

Micro$oft.....Windows.......

"Hold the hood down, and smack the fender twice......"

Right out the Gates(?) I gotta admit...I'm a Windows fan. I like Windows! And once I get over my current "mad-on" over the XP/2003 activation process....I'll probably upgrade from my current W2k OS(though it sure works great).

But talk about security problems.....

Now I understand, that anything one man can lock up, another man of determination can unlock. But the current state of affairs.......Windows has security holes that truly are the equivalent of "Hold the hood down, and smack the fender twice, and the hood will open!"

And with the current events........companies(Ol' Micro$oft partener 'Big Blue") to governments.......moving to Open Source Operating Systems(OS OS's???) I don't see Bill and Co. spending to much time and money on "fixing" anything, when they have to keep their fingers in the dike. Whatever are the boys from Redmond going to come up with next?? Don't know, but I would bet whatever it is.......it's gonna be spectacular(at least in their minds).

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ya thats cool huh,uh!

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Windows has security holes that truly are the equivalent of "Hold the hood down, and smack the fender twice, and the hood will open!"

And you base this on...?

BTW, you spell it Microsoft, the $ should be an s.

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Join Date 03/2001

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I think dragger201 is afraid that Microsoft may use search engine on Microsoft keyword and find his or her post.

He or she is trying to avoid the big bully.

But it's too late, I used proper spelling in this post, so did AndreasV.

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kona0197

Join Date 02/2003

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KarmaGirl

Join Date 03/2001

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MS will always be coming out with a new version. The next one is code-named "Longhorn" and will be in beta soon.

Security is a problem is all OSes. The reason that Windows seems to have more holes is because hackers and virus coders focus on Windows because it has most of the market share. Who would focus efforts on a Mac when they could mess up more PC users with the same effort?

There are not a lot of companies that will move to open source. Companies like stability and full support. Open source doesn't provide that.

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No, Windows "seems to have more holes" simply because it does.

And there are a lot of companies interested in open source. IBM, HP and several other large companies currently have employees coding Linux, for example.

Stability? Open source not having stability? You're joking, right?

And full support.. Funny, companies like Red Hat who provide full support are getting bigger and bigger all the time. (Yes, another Linux example)

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No, Windows "seems to have more holes" simply because it does.

Holes in kernelmode or holes in usermode OS-components? holes in thirdparty (userspace) apps or in ring0 drivers?

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KarmaGirl

Join Date 03/2001

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No, Windows "seems to have more holes" simply because it does.

Can you put some proof behind that? I can prove that more people try to exploit windows than any other OS, which would support my statement. But, can you support yours?

And full support.. Funny, companies like Red Hat who provide full support are getting bigger and bigger all the time.

Full support: Full support means that they can run all the programs that they need and have those programs fully supported. Can you honestly say that there are enough Linux resources for an average company to switch over from Windows? What about communications with other companies? Last I checked, StarOffice wasn't considered exactly "popular" nor a "standard" in business.

Red Hat is basically a support contract for linux. If you quit paying, they quit supporting. If you look at how much that ends up costing, why would it be a wise option for a corporation?

Stability? Open source not having stability? You're joking, right?

"Open Source" became that way due to a lot of "90 percenters" throwing their unfinished projects out and letting other people "finish and improve" them. Just by the nature of the beast, it's not stable. Companies like Red Hat have brought some of the Open Source projects to a stable state, but in general, until you get money involved, it won't be stable in real terms.

And, what type of market share does the different OSes have? Many reports show that Windows has 95% or more. A current report (which can be found at OneStat and other sources) shows the following:
Windows : 97.46 %
Apple: 1.43 %
Linux: .26%
(remainder consists of an error rate and smaller OSes like OpenBSD)

I was once blinded by the thought of another OS taking the place of Windows. Over 10 years ago the very company that provides this site started it's company based on one of those other OSes. It was even backed by a PC giant: IBM. It was called "OS/2". And, where is it now?

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KG do not forget who originally started OS/2

"OS/2 started as a joint project between IBM and Microsoft in the mid 1980s and was first released in late 1987 (at that time designed for the IBM PC/AT and other 80286-based systems). Microsoft was a public and vocal supporter of OS/2 for years, issuing several of its own releases and promoting OS/2 application development. Bill Gates, for example, stated that, "...OS/2 is the platform of the '90s." However, OS/2 versions from 1.3 onward have been the responsibility of IBM."

http://tinyurl.com/58oma MITs' OS/2 FAQ (1.1) What is OS/2 Warp?

I was being smarmy here and saying it was now called Windows, as it seems MS co-opts everything it works on and then develops it into a semi- completed product.

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