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Fellow TEC Loyalist players

September 4, 2012 1:34:46 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire ForumsSins of a Solar Empire Forums

How the heck do you guys win as TL? Because since our titan has no aoes and we cannot win battles outside of our grav wells, whats your strategy for winning?

My personal philosophy about how tec loyalists are supposed to win:

1) Rush early game with lf and corvettes. Rush till you cant rush no more and then secure front lines.

2) Build starbases and eco up.

3) Build carriers. And capital ships. Titan negligible.

4) Build novaliths. Protect entrances with starbases

5) They probably attack you. Lure them in and boom base their fleet. *This right here, is my strategy in a nutshell*. Since I cant win a fleet battle, I gotta use this thing to blow up their fleet. If I suceed Ill probably win. If I dont, then I'm screwed.

6) Assuming you've blown up his fleet with a boom base, blow up his eco with novaliths.

7) You've got huge advantage. Start attacking.

Anybody else got a strategy with tec loyalists? Because this is what most of my games are reverting to..

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Reply #1 September 4, 2012 6:03:35 PM
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I play SP, and a lot of your OP follows what I usually do. I usually invest in a Titan though because it's lvl 6 ability can come in handy.

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Reply #2 September 5, 2012 2:13:20 AM
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I used to play single player a lot too. Then I got pwned at online.

That said, you're right about the titan. It comes in handy sometimes, and probably won't ever die so you dont lose your investment. I just find caps to be more useful abilitywise than ankylon. Blowing up people's fleets with red buttons also my favourite pasttime.

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My fellow TEC loyalist players (all 3 of em) would probably agree..

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Reply #3 September 5, 2012 2:21:05 AM
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Because since our titan has no aoes and we cannot win battles outside of our grav wells, whats your strategy for winning?

What do you call Disruption Vortex? True its great strength is in disabling titans, but it will pop frigates eventually at high levels.

As I see it, if you're going TEC Loyalists online you should see your role in economic terms, using your inherit TEC economic prowess to ensure you keep a superior war effort, while getting Novaliths ASAP to sink enemy morale, forcing them to buy expensive starbases, and hurt their economy greatly in the long term. Other factions are better at doing the decisive battles to win the game, so just make sure they will be fighting inferior opponents, which is where the TEC loyalists really shine.

 

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Reply #4 September 5, 2012 3:58:22 AM
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The Ankylon is more of a support unit than a heavy hitter.  (Not that it's a pushover...)  The Disruption vortex is a decent AoE, and the defense barrier(?) ensures your fleet survives longer.

-Twi

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Reply #5 September 5, 2012 5:06:36 AM
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Quoting GoaFan77,
reply 3

Because since our titan has no aoes and we cannot win battles outside of our grav wells, whats your strategy for winning?


What do you call Disruption Vortex? True its great strength is in disabling titans, but it will pop frigates eventually at high levels.

As I see it, if you're going TEC Loyalists online you should see your role in economic terms, using your inherit TEC economic prowess to ensure you keep a superior war effort, while getting Novaliths ASAP to sink enemy morale, forcing them to buy expensive starbases, and hurt their economy greatly in the long term. Other factions are better at doing the decisive battles to win the game, so just make sure they will be fighting inferior opponents, which is where the TEC loyalists really shine.

 

Yes, TEC loyalists excel at economy. Also agreed with novaliths...I feel TL has a unique ability to screw over opponents in many ways. Anybody else get excited when you're building novaliths behind starbases with big red button and a large eco? If you like 'controlling' the battlefield, you can do it with TL, if you survive early game.

Regarding the ankylon, one question: Have you ever said 'Gee good thing i bought the ankylon'. Most of the time I am more like 'Well the ankylon is not doing much but its getting xp...thats good...when its higher level itll be useful'. Seems like the money could be spent elsewhere..

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Reply #6 September 5, 2012 11:09:03 PM
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Yeah that's the problem with the Ankylon, at high levels its this awesome ship that makes all your other ships even more awesome, and it can laugh off focus fire from like 6000 enemy ships, but before that its just like yeah.... I'm a large ship! And am hard to destroy!... and I can apply a marginal damage reduction to friendly ships, and disable abils for like .1 seconds! But if you can max out group shield and Disruption Matrix you can use Disruption Matrix to cover the 15 seconds that group shield needs to recharge after it wears off, and since it affects Titans now you can potentially survive microwave Eradica at least for a while.

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Reply #7 September 5, 2012 11:24:06 PM
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Quoting DA_YAZ,
reply 6
Regarding the ankylon, one question: Have you ever said 'Gee good thing i bought the ankylon'. Most of the time I am more like 'Well the ankylon is not doing much but its getting xp...thats good...when its higher level itll be useful'. Seems like the money could be spent elsewhere..

Yeah, I was just correcting you that it has an AoE (unlike the Coronata, though its probably better overall). I usually don't get a titan as TEC Loyalists unless I'm fighting for my life on the front lines and know I won't be able to keep my Novaliths protected, or I simply can't build any more Novaliths.

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Reply #8 September 6, 2012 6:07:57 AM
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Quoting Senza32,
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Yeah that's the problem with the Ankylon, at high levels its this awesome ship that makes all your other ships even more awesome, and it can laugh off focus fire from like 6000 enemy ships, but before that its just like yeah.... I'm a large ship! And am hard to destroy!... and I can apply a marginal damage reduction to friendly ships, and disable abils for like .1 seconds! But if you can max out group shield and Disruption Matrix you can use Disruption Matrix to cover the 15 seconds that group shield needs to recharge after it wears off, and since it affects Titans now you can potentially survive microwave Eradica at least for a while.

Yes. Exactomondo. Except getting it to that level requires you to kill so much stuff that....you probably are on your way to winning already. Though the other night I saw a TL player on the opposite team using like 40 javelis and an ankylon. I think he was using disruption matrix to kill corvettes and lrf kill anything else.. was an interesting strat. 

 

Quoting GoaFan77,
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Quoting DA_YAZ, reply 6Regarding the ankylon, one question: Have you ever said 'Gee good thing i bought the ankylon'. Most of the time I am more like 'Well the ankylon is not doing much but its getting xp...thats good...when its higher level itll be useful'. Seems like the money could be spent elsewhere..

Yeah, I was just correcting you that it has an AoE (unlike the Coronata, though its probably better overall). I usually don't get a titan as TEC Loyalists unless I'm fighting for my life on the front lines and know I won't be able to keep my Novaliths protected, or I simply can't build any more Novaliths.

Heh yea. Front line tec loyalists is difficult...none of your techs help early game. Like literally zero. I think this is a problem with TL..you dont become different from Trinity vanilla TEC until mid/late game. 

But when you get novaliths out, you are now a valuable part of the team lol. I swear novaliths at lvl 6 + Novalith deregulation MAKES TL WORK (maybe its obvious, but I see nothing else making as large a contribution as this). Novaliths + boombases + screwing over opponents = why I smile playing TL. If i get late game.

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