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Reply #51 September 21, 2012 2:31:24 PM
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Zombie I don't agree with you that orky phase node would be enough of a nerf to balance them. Build 4 kosutras and you are right where you started. And compared to SB kosutra is very cheap option. 4 can be build for the price of 2 fully upgraded star bases. 

If only this nerf is implemented vasari will just turtle a bit behind star bases and once kosutras are up same sb that were used for turtling will be used for offence. Problem stays the same it is just delayed a bit.... 

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Reply #52 September 21, 2012 2:53:01 PM
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Quoting Greg30007,
reply 51
Zombie I don't agree with you that orky phase node would be enough of a nerf to balance them. Build 4 kosutras and you are right where you started. And compared to SB kosutra is very cheap option. 4 can be build for the price of 2 fully upgraded star bases. 

If only this nerf is implemented vasari will just turtle a bit behind star bases and once kosutras are up same sb that were used for turtling will be used for offence. Problem stays the same it is just delayed a bit.... 

To have 4 kosturas they would need to control 16 planets.

This would also prevent front liners or players that can't sustain 16 labs from pulling off that tactic.

Vasari has always had the advantage if their allowed to grow large enough and then turtle down until they get their long range attack up given it's so slow to retreat forces.

I'm still of the opinion a limit needs to be placed on when and where a Orkulus can jump before any sense of balance can come into play. The current system of debuffing the star base but allowing unlimited jumping just seems to unbalanced to me no matter what form it takes.

 

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Reply #53 September 22, 2012 1:18:18 AM
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Quoting Greg30007,
reply 51
Zombie I don't agree with you that orky phase node would be enough of a nerf to balance them. Build 4 kosutras and you are right where you started.

 

Greg zombies balance idea is very good and as i have always said in a competitive game people even in eco spots don't have the economics or feed allowance that can be spent on 4 Kosutras, starbases and upgrades. It just hurts the team mates so i think you are only singling out ai games. Besides Kosutras are a completely different research tree from starbase mobilization.

 

Zombies Phase node/stabilizor idea  nerfs the starbases offensive,defensive idea and forces a rebel vasari to use the cap they use the least and actually network there worlds with phase stabilizors.

 

This bring out a new level of strategy where sniping an Antoraks and phase stabilizers becomes a very important strategy.

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Reply #54 September 22, 2012 3:50:16 AM
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4 kosturas should be strong.

logistics free fleet however, shouldn't happen in this game.

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