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Ashes of the Singularity: November Status Report

November 17, 2015 2:51:14 PM from Ashes of the Singularity ForumsAshes of the Singularity Forums

Mauler_hpGreetings!

We are just about ready to release 0.64 which has a lot of small improvements to it from last week’s build as well as a pretty big new feature: The power amplifier.  Your engineer can build this onto your power generators to double the resource output of a region.

Now, let’s talk about upcoming changes for the beta.

Early Game Decisions

It is important that the game provide players with multiple early game decisions that are viable.  Below are some decision matrices we are working toward:

 

Game Start

  Cost Pro Con Verdict
Use Engineers to capture region Time Rapidly gain resources Not teching, not building up army, not building defenses. Viable
Build Frigate Factory Metal Quick build army Slower economic growth Viable
Build Extractors by Nexus Time Slight increase in resources Same problem with capturing region but less pay off. Not Viable
NEW: Build Orbital Fabricator Metal, Time Can call down an engineer or an incursion force Not teching, not building production, slower economic growth Viable
         

 

Around 1:30

  Cost Pro Con Verdict
Build Frigate Factory Metal Build up army Not teching, weaker units Viable
NEW: Build Cruiser Factory Metal, Rads Build higher quality army Slower army build up, not teching Viable
Build Quantum Relay Metal, Rads, Time Teching Not building up production Viable
Build Advanced Factory Metal, Rads, Time Get T3 out fast Hurts economy a lot. Not viable
NEW: Build Orbital Fabricator Metal, Time Get incursion force or engineer out Not building up production or teching Viable
NEW: Build Power amplifier Metal, Rads, Time Doubles region output Not teching, not building up Not viable on most maps

 

Hopefully, there will be a lot of viable strategies along with suggestions for more viable strategies.  But what we want to do as designers is make sure there are multiple viable strategies that we can think of and make sure they’re balanced.

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Reply #1 November 17, 2015 3:55:26 PM
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Building extractors near the Nexus at the start is not viable? I have literally never tried to play without doing so. I better see how the game plays without doing it.

Around the 1:30 mark there is no other viable strategy except building a quantum relay. Because if you do not build one as early as possible you hit the logistics cap and subsequently fall behind. As such, quantum relay into logistics is a required build, so there isn't much in the way of decisions. Please read my post here for easy ways to fix this: https://forums.ashesofthesingularity.com/473295

 

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Reply #2 November 17, 2015 4:02:14 PM
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Quoting eviator,
reply 1

Around the 1:30 mark there is no other viable strategy except building a quantum relay. Because if you do not build one as early as possible you hit the logistics cap and subsequently fall behind.

You might want to check this out: http://steamcommunity.com/app/228880/discussions/1/496881136924078275/

Looks like they listened to you and now players start with 100 Quanta. Adds a bit more choice.

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Reply #3 November 17, 2015 4:12:09 PM
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Quoting Ticktoc,
reply 2


You might want to check this out: http://steamcommunity.com/app/228880/discussions/1/496881136924078275/

Looks like they listened to you and now players start with 100 Quanta. Adds a bit more choice.

Oh, okay thanks for the info (Ticktoc) and thanks for the addition (devs)! Maybe I should pay more attention to the steam forums than the official ones?

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Reply #4 November 17, 2015 4:45:49 PM
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Something i want to see how it works The power amplifier. 


Just a note , some where in time you guys will have to think in tatics and options to this game .(lets see what next update bring)

I know its too soon for that i will be waiting for Player requested features. (free)  i have lot thoughts like most players obvius.

When we see a map i/we think, and thinking put  all the ashes book open with all options ashes have for me, right now not mush tatic  but its normal ,its all part  this great game process,this game no diferent then others on that point.

 For now the important , Beta 1: November 2015  ,so day after day we all be here with you ashes team.


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Reply #5 November 19, 2015 5:51:58 PM
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could you make some maps like supreme commander not like dota im not realy a fan of those maze maps al spider web like 

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Reply #6 November 19, 2015 6:07:45 PM
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Have you tried ones like Open Range?

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Reply #7 November 19, 2015 9:21:51 PM
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re maps:

 

Pretty much all the new maps we're making are much more open.  Think Greenhaven or Painted Desert style.

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Reply #8 November 20, 2015 11:00:23 PM
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So when are you Implementing Shields and second monitor support ~ like Supreme Commander?

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Reply #9 November 22, 2015 10:06:10 PM
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Quoting diverbb2003,
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So when are you Implementing Shields and second monitor support ~ like Supreme Commander?

The Substrate have shields at the unit level. There are no plans for large, area force-field type shields ala Supreme Commander.  We definitely want to do things ore 1   with multiple monitors, not sure if that'll make it in before 1.0.

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Reply #10 November 22, 2015 11:15:01 PM
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We definitely want to do things ore 1   with multiple monitors, not sure if that'll make it in before 1.0.

I would love to see the Strategic Map on 2nd monitor, or perhaps as an Android app for one of my tablets?  Maybe both?

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