It's all relative:

http://steamcharts.com/cmp/228880,281610,290790

Broadly speaking, Ashes will need to probably lower its price to attract more players.  That said, Steam Charts only counts Steam units.  It doesn't count the OEM or direct sales which represent the majority of our players who are out there too playing.

You could get more mates to get the game.

There is a group on steam that has chat online, you could meet some ppl their to play with you. And I just play ranked, like the majority of the MP players, because it is faster and more competitive than customs.

Ok. Then why don't you go play that instead?

Not really.  Most people are using the Steam version.  OEM versions (the game comes bundled with most AMD cards) and Direct versions use Steam but don't count on SteamSpy/SteamCharts.

I'm just not sure what the purpose of your post is.  If you think the game is "dying" then it seems you have two options. Either one, go find another game or two, find other people to get the game to keep it from "dying". 

Quoting vyshka,

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Quoting Frogboy,

reply 1

It's all relative:

http://steamcharts.com/cmp/228880,281610,290790

Broadly speaking, Ashes will need to probably lower its price to attract more players.  That said, Steam Charts only counts Steam units.  It doesn't count the OEM or direct sales which represent the majority of our players who are out there too playing.

You could get more mates to get the game.

 

Out of curiosity, any idea why those units don't show up in the numbers? Steam still tracks those people running the game, right?

 

Time for some vacation Brad? He has a legitimate concern.

I have no idea how Steam charts or Steam Spy works.  I just noticed awhile ago that the games that we sold mostly on Steam were fairly accurate and the ones where we sold a lot of copies direct or through bundled were under counted by a lot.  I've already seen this with SteamSpy where there's already like 40,000+ OEM copies that have been registered but don't show up on Steam Spy.  Similarly, none of our Founders copies seem to count on there either.

As for his legitimate concern. It certainly is.  I'm not sure what you would have us do.  As long as Ashes is profitable to work on, which it currently is, we'll work on it.  If it becomes unprofitable to work on, we won't work on it.  That's how the market works. 

I love Ashes.  But I love all my babies.  I've had 5 this past year.  I'll do everything I can but only the market decides winners and losers. 

I show a chart of new IP games and how they do.  Someone else comes on and shows me how much better sequels and Warhammer licenses do.  He's right.  Sequels and licensed IP sell a lot better.

We have Ashes fully staffed until September 30th (i.e. full team dev on it).  After that, we'll see where we are and what the community wants.

We did the same for GalCiv III and Sorcerer King.  With GalCiv III, the community was there, buying DLC, getting friends to buy the game and it is still a great seller.  Sorcerer King, not so much.  So GalCiv III has a full on team on it and Sorcerer King is basically something I play around with on rainy days.  That's the nature of things.

Quoting Frogboy,

reply 9

Quoting vyshka,

reply 8

Quoting Frogboy,

reply 1

It's all relative:

http://steamcharts.com/cmp/228880,281610,290790

Broadly speaking, Ashes will need to probably lower its price to attract more players.  That said, Steam Charts only counts Steam units.  It doesn't count the OEM or direct sales which represent the majority of our players who are out there too playing.

You could get more mates to get the game.

 

Out of curiosity, any idea why those units don't show up in the numbers? Steam still tracks those people running the game, right?

 

Time for some vacation Brad? He has a legitimate concern.

 

I have no idea how Steam charts or Steam Spy works.  I just noticed awhile ago that the games that we sold mostly on Steam were fairly accurate and the ones where we sold a lot of copies direct or through bundled were under counted by a lot.  I've already seen this with SteamSpy where there's already like 40,000+ OEM copies that have been registered but don't show up on Steam Spy.  Similarly, none of our Founders copies seem to count on there either.

Strange. Hopefully you guys are getting accurate analytics at least.

Quoting Frogboy,

As for his legitimate concern. It certainly is.  I'm not sure what you would have us do.  As long as Ashes is profitable to work on, which it currently is, we'll work on it.  If it becomes unprofitable to work on, we won't work on it.  That's how the market works. 

I love Ashes.  But I love all my babies.  I've had 5 this past year.  I'll do everything I can but only the market decides winners and losers. 

I show a chart of new IP games and how they do.  Someone else comes on and shows me how much better sequels and Warhammer licenses do.  He's right.  Sequels and licensed IP sell a lot better.

 

Understood.

I'm enjoying the game, and I'm sure I'll enjoy it even more once the next-gen of gpus drop and I build my next system. It is way past time to put this old Dell out to pasture (5 years old with a 7870 and 16GB ram thrown in). Good thing work gives me nice toys, but those only run Linux.

sins of a solar empire has always had a small community for mp...and check up on its sales numbers...not too bad.

Why not let players try ashes for free in one weekend, once the balances between phc and subs, becomes a steady line.

Also make a different tutorial (mechcanic guide,) and i mean one that adresse the units-role counter information that is needed to play ashes in a multiplayer game, (most new player isnt used to heavy counter roles due to other rts such as StarCraft, due to the fact most units pretty much counters each other a bit weakly, in comparison to ashes.

 Basicly send a clear message to new players, (units you build plays the greatest role in the game and can decide the outcome depending on how you build it.)