Minor races are killing me!

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Aside from multiple crashes to the desktop with Beta 3D I like many of the things about this release, the improved ship list chief among them. The changes in the minor races though are killing me every time.

I'm not sure how the minor races are doing it but they seem to be able to send out an endless stream of colony ships and since they know where all the habitable planets are that gives them an incredible advantage. They spread like wildfire.

The minor races don't seem to suffer from negatives when they go into deficit spending while I seem to have a much harder time maintaining a break-even economy in this beta.

In four games with Beta 3D I can't seem to get away from the minor races. Each time I have started with at least 4 minor races in my immediate vicinity. Often the minor race home planets have been adjacent to each other.

Definitely in need of some further balancing. :)
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Reply #1 from Stardock Forums Top
Did you download the updated build from Saturday?

These crashes concern me because with Saturday's build I don't get any crashes now and I've been playing it constantly.
Reply #2 from Stardock Forums Top
minor races swarmed all over the universe in my last game (patched beta 3d) major races surrendered to them, they started to surrender to each other and ended up with one 'minor race' holding 80%of the galaxy.

I am not too fond of what has happended to the minors in the recent build and patches thereof. Just my view.

s
Galactic Civilizations IV
Reply #3 from Stardock Forums Top
The minor races use the new AI. The other civlizations use the old one. This build, a beta, was designed to see which AI is better.
Reply #4 from Stardock Forums Top
Well, I'd have to say that your experiment was a success.
Reply #5 from Stardock Forums Top
Brad,
the minor races also seem to have a hell of a lot of cash early in the game. Do they recieve a much larger starting amount? If I need cash I look for minors and trade. They always have more than the majors.

Paul.
Reply #6 from Stardock Forums Top
Brad asked:
> Did you download the updated build from Saturday?

I downloaded the build for the first time on Sunday afternoon. I then applied the patched galciv.exe that you you referenced in your posted entitled: "Saturday GalCiv build".

In four games on Sunday I had 3 crashes to the desktop, all at different points in the game with no common thread between them. Nothing untoward showed up in the debug.err file.

I _really_ wish I could get SmartException to work again on my machine, past a certain point release of SmartException it just stopped working. It either hung my machine or just sits there running and not catching crashes (which is the current state of things).
Reply #7 from Stardock Forums Top
Have had 4 crashes to desktop with the sat Build also.
Playing Gigantic Galaxy. SmartExecption did catch 3 of the Crashes and tranmitted the crash data.

Had two major Races as Evil, Smart when the games crashed.
Reply #8 from Stardock Forums Top
Also, as for the minor Races have game going where one of the Minor Races is left, and a major factor in the game, 25-30% of the Star Systems. Holding their own againts the Dregin Empire and sort of allied with me, though that might be questionable at any time.