Reply By: cmortonPosted: Thursday, February 09, 2006

very nice, now how about writing one aboiut my people that were slaves in Egypt for about a thousand years. {less but I am sure it felt that long}

Everyone has this shallow vision of the dying 'going with grace and dignity.' Obviously, you've never watched anyone actually die before, have you?

I wonder how many know you shit and pis yourself upon dieing?

Reply By: Furry CanaryPosted: Thursday, February 09, 2006'good point... if this month is "black" history month does that mean the other 11 months are white history months?'Yes! That's exactly how it has always been; those in power dictate everything, including history. Thus the NEED for a black history month. Well done MM.

well then how about the poor downtroden JEWS? we were slaves too, how come I do not get a month?

I would have no problem with a national civil rights month. Or a civil rights day. But making a whole month devoted to one of numerous downtrodden minorities and devoting a national holiday to only one person in a multitude who forged modern civil rights?

It's lip service, and if those who really respect minorities cared they'd see through it in a heartbeat. It's the kind of thing white PR people would come up with. Pick the most known name, toss a national holiday in his direction and hope it appeases people. Don't deal with how the Chinese suffered, don't deal with Native Americans, just toss black people a month and hope that'll do the trick.

The fact that they have been able to get by with it shows just how devoted to 'civil rights' and minority issues Liberal America really is. They spend more time picking out curtains.

jackie did not consort with race baiters like sharpton and jackson.

She didn't have to. She moved in a completely different circle of friends and didn't have to put up with them. I don't know the facts about the relationship between Mrs. King and Sharpton and Jackson, but (and as I'm about to make an assumption that might be making an Ass - Umption)they are the ones who probably seeked her out because she was the wife of MLK. Politics and ass kissing and all. Being the diplomat she is she didn't kick them to the curb.

I think she was a saint to put up with his personal life and stand by his side.

This is what I believe many people admired about her. She did put up with a lot, she did stand by her husband's side, she did protect her children in times of adversary, this is what most people remembered.

Sorry, she was a "first lady". Did her body lie in state? Nope.

I wondered why she was never accorded that honor? Mrs. Kennedy was a very private person and guarded her personal life fiercely. I think Mrs. King got that honor because the politician's in Georgia decided to do it. It didnt have to be that way but they did it obviously for political reasons, that and some guilt perhaps, who knows. At any rate good for her, she went out in style.


And of course the news media would televise her funeral. It's news isn't it?


Mrs. King was deeply involved in her church and other organizations, they would certainly give her a grand funeral.

Every politician who wanted to get votes would be there, and to make a spectacle of themselves would afford them notirety. Too bad they didn't show respect for her and keep the politics out of it.


As for Black History Month, well in the past the politicians who deemed February as such saw the need for it because of the past. Blacks were the largest minority then. Blacks are no longer the largest minority. The reasons for having a Black History Month should be revamped, but like a lot of things in this country that came about due to the actions of the past, February will continue to be celebrated that way. Who do you think is going to voice that it's time to do away with it? I definately don't believe that remembering Black History should only be focused in one month. It should be anytime that it's necessary, like in schools or whenever or wherever it's relevant.

As for White History month, why not? There should also be a Chinese History month and a Native American History Month. In fact, for every race that we have in this country, there should be a month to celebrate their history. I think that's a bloody good idea. And I'm not being sarcastic.

I have to believe that many of the people who worked hard to make anything better for everyone else was not looking to be recognized for their accomplishments in a way of have a day or even a month for them. I doubt MLKJ thought that if he did what he did he would become famous (like Sharmpton and Jackson), he did it for his people, for those who could not fend for themselves, for those who needed a voice to speak for them, not for self proclamation, or personal gain.

Reply By: DJBanditPosted: Thursday, February 09, 2006I have to believe that many of the people who worked hard to make anything better for everyone else was not looking to be recognized for their accomplishments in a way of have a day or even a month for them. I doubt MLKJ thought that if he did what he did he would become famous (like Sharmpton and Jackson), he did it for his people, for those who could not fend for themselves, for those who needed a voice to speak for them, not for self proclamation, or personal gain.

that is the BIG diference between coretta and sharpton, jackson, She did it because she was class and heart personified, while sharpton and jaackson are only concerned with keeping the races as divided as possible in order to line their pockets with 30 pieces of silver!

Reply By: foreverserenityPosted: Thursday, February 09, 2006

what wonderful insight forever!

I would settle for just one day called big nose Jew of Turkish descent history day.

This is what I believe many people admired about her. She did put up with a lot, she did stand by her husband's side, she did protect her children in times of adversary, this is what most people remembered.

that is why I think she is as good as Rosa Parks. She did not seek greatness, she had it thrust upon her.  And even after Martin, she showed it. She never attacked.  She was always speaking FOR someone, and not against anyone.

While I think the ceremony has gone too far, it does not add or detract from my admiration from a very strong lady, and one to be admired.  A position that Hillary Clinton will never achieve.  She does not have what it takes, what Rosa and Coretta had.

As for White History month, why not? There should also be a Chinese History month and a Native American History Month. In fact, for every race that we have in this country, there should be a month to celebrate their history. I think that's a bloody good idea. And I'm not being sarcastic.

I wish you were.  I would think we should  have a history month.  And include all.

Sorry to say this, but it's appeasement at work with a dash of politics, if they wanted to honor her life so mush why then did they {the dems} turn it into a circus?

Exactly. What could have been a beautiful tribute was turned into a political bash-fest. That in itself disgusted me.

As for the rest, I think it was excessive and not warranted.

Reply By: Dr. GuyPosted: Thursday, February 09, 2006

She was always speaking FOR someone, and not against anyone.

and she did it with class and grace, never once looking to line her pockets.

She has my respect for the way she lived life, she talked the talk and walked the walk.

Reply By: HC...Posted: Thursday, February 09, 2006Sorry to say this, but it's appeasement at work with a dash of politics, if they wanted to honor her life so mush why then did they {the dems} turn it into a circus?Exactly. What could have been a beautiful tribute was turned into a political bash-fest. That in itself disgusted me. As for the rest, I think it was excessive and not warranted.

once again left showed what they are made of, hatred, spite and a distinct lack of CLASS!

and she did it with class and grace, never once looking to line her pockets. She has my respect for the way she lived life, she talked the talk and walked the walk.

Amen Brother!

I haven't waded through the responses to your post, Mod, so this is just a bit to you and not anybody else who posted.

I have to say, one of my reactions to the entire affair was the same as yours, "Why all the fuss?" After looking at the grandstanding speeches by many at her funeral, I thought it ever so much the harder. GW Bush's speech was actually one of the best, because he didn't seem to pursue any agenda -- and when I'M saying that Dubya was the high point, you know this thing was flawed.

Mrs. King tried hard to consolidate the many disparate views of the civil rights movement that existed at the time of, and after, her husband's death, and so I respect her for that. But the orgy of guilt and "looking right" that was her funeral? Oh, it was PC bullshit at its worst.

The cable news channels showed umpteen hours and updates, so they can say they love black people. NPR the same. It wasn't any real statement, just a chance for people to pretend that they give a shit about something other than their political stances.

that's it for me, I was disgusted by the whole circus.

cheers.

She does not have what it takes, what Rosa and Coretta had.

No...she doesn't. Nor do tens of millions of other women in this country.

It's pretty sad when so many people on this thread are crying foul at people using her death as a political pulpit, and then you do pretty much the same thing. This has nothing to do with Hillary, yet you seized the opportunity to contrast this woman with Hillary for the sole purpose of putting Hillary down. Lot's of women aren't made from the same stuff as Mrs. King, so there's no need to fault her for that. Aren't there enough arrows to fire at Hillary other than Mrs. King?

The point you are trying to make, RACIST, is that Race is All that seems to matter to you. I don't give a flyin' fig what kind of blood is "corsing" through your veins. Apparently you don't care about Humans, you only care about Skin.

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Ok, Racist:

Dr. Bill Cosby: Comedian, educator.

Gen. Colin Powell: U.S. Army Retiree, Chairmen of the Joint Chiefs of staff, National Security Advisor, Secretary of State. Founder of "America's Promise Alliance for Youth.

Dr. Condoleeza Rice: Secretary of State, National Security Advisor, Special Assistant to the Director of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Certified Genius.

Dr. Walter E. Williams: One of the top economists of our time. Educator and tenured professor at George Mason University.

George Washington Carver: Pioneer in Agriculture, some of his ideas and innovations are still being used in that field today. Inventor of Peanut Butter, Peanut Oil, and many other uses for peanuts.

Willian Still: Considered the "Father of the Underground Railroad". Worked with organizations like The Quakers, Methodists, Baptists, and other abolishionists, to help runaway slaves escape to free states.

James Baskette: Actor, won an Oscar for his role as Uncle Remus in Song of the South in 1946.

Louis Armstrong: Musician/Singer/Actor, pioneer in New Orleans and Big Band Jazz, Beat the Beatles for the #1 song spot in 1964 with his song "Hello Dolly".

Johnny Allen Hendrix (better known as James Marshall "Jimi" Hendrix: U.S. Paratrooper (26 jumps), innovative guitar player, singer. Blew away guitar greats of his time like Eric Clapton, Jimmy Page, Pete Townsend, and Jeff Beck. After the fiasco tour where he opened for The Monkees, no band or artist would agree to follow his performances.

These people are pioneers in their fields, educators, entertainers and leaders. Each distinguished themselves in their own right. There isn't a person alive that can't use these people as positive role models in whatever endeavor they pursue. Were they perfect, I hope not. Would we want to emulate everything about each one, absolutely not. However, each one took the talents and drive they started with and magnified it to bring them to the top of their games. They all faced bigotry, racism, and the small mindedness of others, but didn't let it hold them down. Even if I didn't know anything else about them, that would be enough for me to praise them as role models.


There are a few that come to mind.

As for Coretta Scot King, I didn't know much about her. I don't think she deserved the honors reserved for Presidents because she wasn't a President. That doesn't mean I don't think she should be respected for her accomplishments, on the contrary, I thought Prs. Clinton and Prs. Bush's eulogies at her funeral were great honors to her. I also thought all the crap about WMD, Wire Taps and other political statements were a direct slap in the face to her memory that should never have been put up with, much less applauded.

You say her life was spent in service to others. I have no reason to doubt that, it's too bad more "speakers" at her funeral couldn't have found it more appropriate to bring up some of those than to take personal shots at someone who was only there to honor her.

I don't call you a racist because I think you hate people based on race, that would make you a bigot and I haven't read anything that would lead me to believe that of you. I call you a racist because race is the only thing that seems to matter to you.

You don't seem to care that Irish, Chinese and others were systemically kept from jobs, refused service in restaurants and hotels, denied any educational opportunities, sold into endentured servitude and killed at the whims of others with no legal recourse.

You don't seem to care about the atrocities committed against anyone but those who happen to have skin dark enough for them to matter to you.

Your great grandparents were slaves. While they were slaves, my ancestors were being killed and raped by order of the Governor of The State of Missouri.

Both our ancestors had hopes that their posterity would rise above the horrors of their day and live free, happy and productive lives. You have what they could only dream about... what they did for you has already been done, what you do with your freedom is completely up to you.

Personally, I'd rather honor my ancestors by helping people to have a better future, not work to make people pay for the horrors of the past.

I just get sick and tired of every time there is one of our "Black Leaders"

And I'm sick and tired of racists thinking that a person has to be a certain color to be a leader for others.

What is the difference between a Black person or a White person who is a great leader? If you can tell a worthy leader by the color of their skin, well, (to paraphrase a great song) Miss, Your a Better Man than I.

Reply By: MyrranderPosted: Thursday, February 09, 2006I haven't waded through the responses to your post, Mod, so this is just a bit to you and not anybody else who posted.I have to say, one of my reactions to the entire affair was the same as yours, "Why all the fuss?" After looking at the grandstanding speeches by many at her funeral, I thought it ever so much the harder. GW Bush's speech was actually one of the best, because he didn't seem to pursue any agenda -- and when I'M saying that Dubya was the high point, you know this thing was flawed.Mrs. King tried hard to consolidate the many disparate views of the civil rights movement that existed at the time of, and after, her husband's death, and so I respect her for that. But the orgy of guilt and "looking right" that was her funeral? Oh, it was PC bullshit at its worst.The cable news channels showed umpteen hours and updates, so they can say they love black people. NPR the same. It wasn't any real statement, just a chance for people to pretend that they give a shit about something other than their political stances.that's it for me, I was disgusted by the whole circus.

wow a wonderful condensed version of how I feel. damned insiteful myrr.

Reply By: davad70Posted: Friday, February 10, 2006She does not have what it takes, what Rosa and Coretta had.No...she doesn't. Nor do tens of millions of other women in this country.It's pretty sad when so many people on this thread are crying foul at people using her death as a political pulpit, and then you do pretty much the same thing.

Could you please give ONE example of the right trashing the left at a funeral? The right had their chance ata President Reagan's funeral, but never uttered one word about the left. not one. To Use the funeral of a leader and make no mistake, Coretta was a leader to push a political agenda, take potshots, disrupt a solemn occasion and snidely bash the President was and is what the democrats are about these days, trash talking, no ideas, no agenda except "we hate Bush"

I have noticed you throw stuff out there with not a single fact to back up what you try to put forth.

Why don't all you red necks go back to your trailer and pull out you red sheets. It is pretty obvious that you are all racist. What did Mrs. King do to you all but try to end the way you treat the black race. Everyone who has something negative to say is a true RED NECK and God knows your heart. ENJOY Hell.

Why don't all you red necks go back to your trailer and pull out you white sheets. It is pretty obvious that you are all racist. What did Mrs. King do to you all but try to end the way you treat the black race. Everyone who has something negative to say is a true RED NECK and God knows your heart. ENJOY Hell.