Strongest AI?

In my maso games, I'd say that 90% of the time, the Torians are kicking everyone else's butts. What makes them so special that the other AIs can't keep up? I try to keep the other AI's in competition by gifting them all of my tech, etc, but the Torians always wipe them all away, leaving a big fight against myself and them for the end game. It would be nice to have a little bit of variety every once in a while...

Does anyone else see this?
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Reply #1 Top
Lately, for me, I think it has been a toss up between the Torians and Altarans (look out if they manage to get an alliance) with the Arcaens being a close second. The Yor most often seem to be everyones cannon fodder and the Drengin are just there.

~SDC~
Reply #2 Top
I play on normal difficulty most of the time and it's nearly always the Torians that seem to be the strongest. It's a pain as well because I end up fighting them and the Altarians together as they are always allied. Sometimes I don't even bother fighting them and just go for the alliance victory instead.

In the 2 games that I played at challenging level it was the Arceans who were strongest.
Reply #3 Top
IF give the Altarians and the Torians an opposite alignment it'll be less likely for them to ally.

G-Force
Reply #4 Top
I've seen each of the AI's become the dominant power. This seems to have little to do with the AI and a lot to do with luck of the draw. Whoever happens to start in the largest most fertile patch of systems will do best.

Somebody here said the Drengin are "just there", but they are often the Runaway AI in my games. And for those who claim the Yor are inept and cannot become strong:

http://sirian.warpcore.org/galciv/ky.html


- Sirian
Reply #5 Top
It does seem to me that with an equivalent resource base, the Torians seem to come out better, faster, and/or stronger than the other AIs. It's a good thing their invasion tactics suck.
Reply #6 Top
I would say that empire size, alignment and research ability are all key factors, trade has some influence too as does the human player. However different races seem to do better then others in the same situations.

Generally speaking and purely based on my own experiences, on various alignment combinations.

Torians are a well rounded AI, they play a part in every game. They are hardy players and manage well in techs and alliances. Overall I have to say they dominate most games, given a bad start they manage to hold their own better. I find them more unpredicable as evil, usually even more dangerous.

Altarians are strong, they like techs and fighting the opposite aligned. I usually play with the Drengins and Altarians opposite alignments, and they seem be 'counters' for each other.
An evil Altarian empire seems to do better as an individual then a good Altarian empire.

The Drengins seem to exhaust themselves in war, unless they get early conquests or start with more planets they will lose. They get big fleets, but are generally struggling tech wise and at war with multiple enemies.

Arceans are unpredicable they can be bad news or good news. Their diplomatic stance shifts a lot, but usually manage an alliance no matter which alignment they play. Otherwise while they can hold their own they take a back seat to the Torians, Altarians and Drengin.

At the bottom are the Yor, they seem to have trouble in fact they seem to play like a retarded drengin. I've never had them become a threat unless they ally with someone. They don't seem to play too badly but then again they never seem to get anywhere. In fact most wars I have with them, they never show up.

Thats generally what I've found.
Overall Torians best, Altarians second, Drengins just behind for third, Arceans forth and Yor alseep.

~SDC~
Reply #7 Top
That sounds about like what I've seen in my games. Every once in a while I have the Drengins take off and dominate, but that's only if they manage to win a bunch of early wars. Yor NEVER do anything. Torian influence seems to be scary strong. Arcean inflence starts strong, so it kind of sucks if you start right next to them, but if they start far away, it'll fade away soon enough.
Reply #8 Top
Sirian my compliments to your detailed game description, that is amazing, excellent piece of work and game of course!!! ;) Don't you want to join the Jedi Republic. Your services would be greatly appreciated. ;)
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Off Topic I know but are you the same mayito that frequented anomalies.net? just wondering (doesnt know many mayito's lol)
Reply #11 Top
In my experience (mostly small to large maps on maso with different cluster/abundance settings with default alignments) Yor are definitely the weakest ai. Torians can be strong but they have poor attacking skills. Drengin and Altarians are the most dangerous in my opinion, though the Drengins strategy requires them to succeed fast or else they tire. Arceans are better than the Yor and can last more than the Drengin but tend not to dominate because they neither ally nor go in early conquest wars.
Reply #12 Top
I don't know... The Torians have never had trouble invading in my games.