Beta 4 Crash To Desktop

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Clicking on "details" for any of my Class 16 planets causes a CTD. I have a 20 and a 26 as well, and both of those seem fine. Because I'm a W2K guy, Smart Exception isn't in the cards I'm afraid. (Although CDR Lucky Jack once volunteered to try and reproduce these and send in a report)
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Reply #1 from Stardock Forums Top
a complete reinstall using the drengin net reinstall option turned beta4 from a dog (old files problems, conflicts etc?) into a great game (wow!) for me.

However I have broadband and it took a while for a total re-install. I did the program files in 5mins, then started the graphics files and went out.

s
Reply #2 from Stardock Forums Top
I wonder what file didn't get installed. That's not a good thing.

The debug.err file will tell you if you're missing anything.
Siege of Centauri
Reply #3 from Stardock Forums Top
My debug.err doesn't complain of anything. I hesitate to do a total reinstall without something more to go on, but I'll give it a shot.
Reply #4 from Stardock Forums Top
debug for me in another recent crash thread, if you have the time & bandwidth i suggest a clean out and reinstall
Reply #5 from Stardock Forums Top
Steevodeevo, that was a bum steer, I'm afraid. I just uninstalled, and reinstalled (w/o multimedia; that's coming next) and the exact same thing happened.
Reply #6 from Stardock Forums Top
What size galaxy do you tend to play on?
Reply #7 from Stardock Forums Top
I encountered another CTD. I clicked on a scout during an AI's turn and had game wink out on me. No information in the debug.err file.

I'm wondering if the user input needs to be disabled during computer turns.

I'm using WinMe :( with DirectX9 playing in the gigantic universe.
Reply #8 from Stardock Forums Top
Something is going to have to be done during ship movement sine that's where performance issues happen there too.
Reply #9 from Stardock Forums Top
I tend to play large or huge, Brad, but this crash was at medium too.
Reply #10 from Stardock Forums Top
Brad,
perhaps you should disable the mouse buttons and keyboard press during the auto turn phase. The number of times I move a ship wrong because focus changes as I'm clicking on the location is beginning to get annoying. This would also stop people slowing down this phase by trying to do things, and possibly increase performance,

Paul.
Reply #11 from Stardock Forums Top
TJL1

My reinstall was total including m/media but I think Brad has resolved now? sorry if you wasted your time, hope its working now.
s
Reply #12 from Stardock Forums Top
I did a total reinstall too (with multimedia). It didn' change anything.
Reply #13 from Stardock Forums Top
I have just rewritten .exe, and did not help. I will try complete yesterday after I return from country (26th.)
Reply #14 from Stardock Forums Top
Minor add to CTD on details .. i get this but only when select when cycling through the planet reports at end/start of turn. if bring up planet during play and select detail no problem and no CTD.

jms
Reply #15 from Stardock Forums Top
I have just finished a complete install from scratch, so I haven't been watching the forum for a couple of days (I only have a dialup - max 56K). I have also downloaded the new zip file Brad provided, but have yet to install it.

Some of the comments about "next turn" processing ring true for me. I have noticed lately that the clock that appears on the "turn" button dissappears much too soon. This has caused me problems on both 3Z builds and the windowed test that Cari sent me that fixed a number of problems that made 3z1 unplayable. I have to agree: The keyboard and mouse inputs to the game (but not those that bypass the game to the OS) MUST be dissabled during "next turn" processing AND, I think, during the part of the "autopilot" processing where the game is busy moving ships. And 1) the clock should be used over the "find" button while the game is actively moving ships during "autopilot processing", 2). The clock should stay on the turn button until the project completion processing is complete (the last planet view has had the "done" button (not the "next" button) pressed). The lack of these clues to what the game is doing is causing a lot of the problems I have run into.
Reply #16 from Stardock Forums Top
I tried the "details" problem with my current game and got the SE report below. There are three reports, the first is with the original Beta 4 exe, the second two are with the zip file Brad made available in another thread. I loaded my game from a save file and went directly to the planet list in all three cases. The first and second reports are with a class 16 planet. Then I tried the other class planets I have in this game (20, 18, 17, 16 (which I skipped this time), and 15) and it did not crash until I tried it on the class 15 planet. What is interesting to me is that this was happening on 3z1 only on Earth, now is happening on any class 15 or 16 planet. (I may have to colonize a class 14 planet to see if it happens with it.)

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Stardock SmartException Logging Information
-------------------------------------------

OS Version : Windows ME
Video Card : NVIDIA GeForce2 GTS/GeForce2 Pro (IBM)
Application Exception code: C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION
Crash Addr: 0058021C 01:0017F21C E:\DRENGIN.NET\GALCIV\GALCIV.EXE

Processor Registers (x86):
EAX:7FFFFFFE
EBX:837A771C
ECX:00000202
EDX:7FFFFFFF
ESI:837A763C
EDI:00000202
CS:EIP:0187:0058021C
SS:ESP:018F:00D5F1AC EBP:00D5F460
DS:018F ES:018F FS:0C47 GS:0000
Flags:00010206


Current Application Call Stack:

Addr Frame Logical addr Module Name
---------------------------------------------
0058021C 00D5F460 0001:0017F21C E:\DRENGIN.NET\GALCIV\GALCIV.EXE
00578DBF 00D5F4B0 0001:00177DBF E:\DRENGIN.NET\GALCIV\GALCIV.EXE
0047091A 00D5F6BC 0001:0006F91A E:\DRENGIN.NET\GALCIV\GALCIV.EXE
0046FF83 00D5F714 0001:0006EF83 E:\DRENGIN.NET\GALCIV\GALCIV.EXE
0046FCD3 00D5F77C 0001:0006ECD3 E:\DRENGIN.NET\GALCIV\GALCIV.EXE
0047BC05 00D5F918 0001:0007AC05 E:\DRENGIN.NET\GALCIV\GALCIV.EXE
0047BDF7 00D5F980 0001:0007ADF7 E:\DRENGIN.NET\GALCIV\GALCIV.EXE
0050D41C 00D5F9FC 0001:0010C41C E:\DRENGIN.NET\GALCIV\GALCIV.EXE
0052281D 00D5FA64 0001:0012181D E:\DRENGIN.NET\GALCIV\GALCIV.EXE
00522AB7 00D5FACC 0001:00121AB7 E:\DRENGIN.NET\GALCIV\GALCIV.EXE
0051E61B 00D5FB44 0001:0011D61B E:\DRENGIN.NET\GALCIV\GALCIV.EXE
00542B14 00D5FBC4 0001:00141B14 E:\DRENGIN.NET\GALCIV\GALCIV.EXE
BAABDFF6 00D5FBF0 0001:0001CFF6 C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\DDRAW.DLL
BFF63613 00D5FC10 0001:00002613 C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\KERNEL32.DLL
BFF848F7 00D5FC24 0002:0001B8F7 C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\KERNEL32.DLL


Debug information for each stardock app follows ....

Stardock SmartException Logging Information
-------------------------------------------

OS Version : Windows ME
Video Card : NVIDIA GeForce2 GTS/GeForce2 Pro (IBM)
Application Exception code: C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION
Crash Addr: 005804CC 01:0017F4CC E:\DRENGIN.NET\GALCIV\GALCIV.EXE

Processor Registers (x86):
EAX:7FFFFFFE
EBX:837A6DD4
ECX:00000202
EDX:7FFFFFFF
ESI:837A6CF4
EDI:00000202
CS:EIP:0187:005804CC
SS:ESP:018F:00D5F1AC EBP:00D5F460
DS:018F ES:018F FS:4E67 GS:0000
Flags:00010206


Current Application Call Stack:

Addr Frame Logical addr Module Name
---------------------------------------------
005804CC 00D5F460 0001:0017F4CC E:\DRENGIN.NET\GALCIV\GALCIV.EXE
0057906F 00D5F4B0 0001:0017806F E:\DRENGIN.NET\GALCIV\GALCIV.EXE
0047095A 00D5F6BC 0001:0006F95A E:\DRENGIN.NET\GALCIV\GALCIV.EXE
0046FFC3 00D5F714 0001:0006EFC3 E:\DRENGIN.NET\GALCIV\GALCIV.EXE
0046FD13 00D5F77C 0001:0006ED13 E:\DRENGIN.NET\GALCIV\GALCIV.EXE
0047BC45 00D5F918 0001:0007AC45 E:\DRENGIN.NET\GALCIV\GALCIV.EXE
0047BE37 00D5F980 0001:0007AE37 E:\DRENGIN.NET\GALCIV\GALCIV.EXE
0050D6CC 00D5F9FC 0001:0010C6CC E:\DRENGIN.NET\GALCIV\GALCIV.EXE
00522ACD 00D5FA64 0001:00121ACD E:\DRENGIN.NET\GALCIV\GALCIV.EXE
00522D67 00D5FACC 0001:00121D67 E:\DRENGIN.NET\GALCIV\GALCIV.EXE
0051E8CB 00D5FB44 0001:0011D8CB E:\DRENGIN.NET\GALCIV\GALCIV.EXE
00542DC4 00D5FBC4 0001:00141DC4 E:\DRENGIN.NET\GALCIV\GALCIV.EXE
BAABDFF6 00D5FBF0 0001:0001CFF6 C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\DDRAW.DLL
BFF63613 00D5FC10 0001:00002613 C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\KERNEL32.DLL
BFF848F7 00D5FC24 0002:0001B8F7 C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\KERNEL32.DLL


Debug information for each stardock app follows ....

Stardock SmartException Logging Information
-------------------------------------------

OS Version : Windows ME
Video Card : NVIDIA GeForce2 GTS/GeForce2 Pro (IBM)
Application Exception code: C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION
Crash Addr: 005804CC 01:0017F4CC E:\DRENGIN.NET\GALCIV\GALCIV.EXE

Processor Registers (x86):
EAX:7FFFFFFE
EBX:837A6DD4
ECX:00000202
EDX:7FFFFFFF
ESI:837A6CF4
EDI:00000202
CS:EIP:0187:005804CC
SS:ESP:018F:00D5F1AC EBP:00D5F460
DS:018F ES:018F FS:21DF GS:0000
Flags:00010206


Current Application Call Stack:

Addr Frame Logical addr Module Name
---------------------------------------------
005804CC 00D5F460 0001:0017F4CC E:\DRENGIN.NET\GALCIV\GALCIV.EXE
0057906F 00D5F4B0 0001:0017806F E:\DRENGIN.NET\GALCIV\GALCIV.EXE
0047095A 00D5F6BC 0001:0006F95A E:\DRENGIN.NET\GALCIV\GALCIV.EXE
0046FFC3 00D5F714 0001:0006EFC3 E:\DRENGIN.NET\GALCIV\GALCIV.EXE
0046FD13 00D5F77C 0001:0006ED13 E:\DRENGIN.NET\GALCIV\GALCIV.EXE
0047BC45 00D5F918 0001:0007AC45 E:\DRENGIN.NET\GALCIV\GALCIV.EXE
0047BE37 00D5F980 0001:0007AE37 E:\DRENGIN.NET\GALCIV\GALCIV.EXE
0050D6CC 00D5F9FC 0001:0010C6CC E:\DRENGIN.NET\GALCIV\GALCIV.EXE
00522ACD 00D5FA64 0001:00121ACD E:\DRENGIN.NET\GALCIV\GALCIV.EXE
00522D67 00D5FACC 0001:00121D67 E:\DRENGIN.NET\GALCIV\GALCIV.EXE
0051E8CB 00D5FB44 0001:0011D8CB E:\DRENGIN.NET\GALCIV\GALCIV.EXE
00542DC4 00D5FBC4 0001:00141DC4 E:\DRENGIN.NET\GALCIV\GALCIV.EXE
BAABDFF6 00D5FBF0 0001:0001CFF6 C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\DDRAW.DLL
BFF63613 00D5FC10 0001:00002613 C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\KERNEL32.DLL
BFF848F7 00D5FC24 0002:0001B8F7 C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\KERNEL32.DLL
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Reply #17 from Stardock Forums Top
I seem to be able to reporduce my CTD with a 100% of the time. All I need to do is save a game then come back later load the game then click on the ship icon thats the one with all the triagles in it and then select the hero then make it move then locate my other ship and move it and just after the second ship has finished moving bang nice desktop of mine. I can send you the save file if you like. :notsure:
Reply #19 from Stardock Forums Top
her's another ctd click on minor race when ther are the rest of the minor races haven't been found yet


Stardock SmartException Logging Information
-------------------------------------------

OS Version : Windows XP
Video Card : NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440
Application Exception code: C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION
Crash Addr: 0042063F 01:0001F63F C:\PROGRA~1\Drengin.net\galciv\galciv.exe

Processor Registers (x86):
EAX:00000000
EBX:00000000
ECX:00000000
EDX:00C2F2B4
ESI:00542110
EDI:00C2FD1C
CS:EIP:001B:0042063F
SS:ESP:0023:00C2F6DC EBP:00C2F72C
DS:0023 ES:0023 FS:003B GS:0000
Flags:00010206


Current Application Call Stack:

Addr Frame Logical addr Module Name
---------------------------------------------
0042063F 00C2F72C 0001:0001F63F C:\PROGRA~1\Drengin.net\galciv\galciv.exe
0044213C 00C2F7C4 0001:0004113C C:\PROGRA~1\Drengin.net\galciv\galciv.exe
00441BC4 00C2F81C 0001:00040BC4 C:\PROGRA~1\Drengin.net\galciv\galciv.exe
0050CCDB 00C2F8E0 0001:0010BCDB C:\PROGRA~1\Drengin.net\galciv\galciv.exe
0044454F 00C2F994 0001:0004354F C:\PROGRA~1\Drengin.net\galciv\galciv.exe
00443EFB 00C2F9F8 0001:00042EFB C:\PROGRA~1\Drengin.net\galciv\galciv.exe
00444F9F 00C2FA78 0001:00043F9F C:\PROGRA~1\Drengin.net\galciv\galciv.exe
004451BE 00C2FAE0 0001:000441BE C:\PROGRA~1\Drengin.net\galciv\galciv.exe
0052281D 00C2FB48 0001:0012181D C:\PROGRA~1\Drengin.net\galciv\galciv.exe
00522AB7 00C2FBB0 0001:00121AB7 C:\PROGRA~1\Drengin.net\galciv\galciv.exe
0051E61B 00C2FC28 0001:0011D61B C:\PROGRA~1\Drengin.net\galciv\galciv.exe
00542B14 00C2FCA8 0001:00141B14 C:\PROGRA~1\Drengin.net\galciv\galciv.exe
77D67AD7 00C2FCD4 0001:00026AD7 C:\WINDOWS\system32\USER32.dll
77D6CCD4 00C2FD3C 0001:0002BCD4 C:\WINDOWS\system32\USER32.dll
77D45CD6 00C2FD6C 0001:00004CD6 C:\WINDOWS\system32\USER32.dll
77D45CF5 00C2FD8C 0001:00004CF5 C:\WINDOWS\system32\USER32.dll
7377DF68 00C2FDB8 0001:0001CF68 C:\WINDOWS\System32\DDRAW.dll
77D67AD7 00C2FDE4 0001:00026AD7 C:\WINDOWS\system32\USER32.dll
77D6CCD4 00C2FE4C 0001:0002BCD4 C:\WINDOWS\system32\USER32.dll
77D44455 00C2FEAC 0001:00003455 C:\WINDOWS\system32\USER32.dll
77D44D58 00C2FF30 0001:00003D58 C:\WINDOWS\system32\USER32.dll
0057F746 00C2FFC0 0001:0017E746 C:\PROGRA~1\Drengin.net\galciv\galciv.exe
77E814C7 00C2FFF0 0001:000204C7 C:\WINDOWS\system32\kernel32.dll


Debug information for each stardock app follows ....
the debug file didn't show anything. Just make ships leave orbit.

p.s. smart and genius are playing smarter and harder (thanks there a very good challenge! ie sweating bullets right now
LOL
Reply #20 from Stardock Forums Top
it's a repeatable crash. I've got a saved game if you need it. The last minor race just defecteed to me prior to this crash