THIS IS JUST PLAIN WRONG!!

Isn't influenza a natural viral infection? When the body gets very sick, it isn't always possible for it to fight off infections and complications that occur with viral or bacteria infections.

If I remember correctly, it is because it changes constantly. That's why there are different flu vaccines each year.


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"We are fat, sick, more pills are prescribed each year in America than any other country on the planet. Why?"

The fat cat does no work. I.e. We're the most powerful nation on earth, we are the most prosperous (so they say). We're the fat cats, so to speak. We've become apathetic, and sedentary - I mean, come one...fast food, 1 hour photo, we want things now, fast, immediately, etc...

~Lucas

Those figures sound a bit skewed MM but flu is a swine.

Reply By: Dan Greene(Anonymous User)Posted: Monday, November 13, 2006 Isn't influenza a natural viral infection? When the body gets very sick, it isn't always possible for it to fight off infections and complications that occur with viral or bacteria infections.

it is, but come on now, death by flu?

Reply By: adnauseamPosted: Monday, November 13, 2006 Those figures sound a bit skewed MM but flu is a swine.

 

since the center for disease control tracks all health issues in the united states I will go with their figure.[

Wrong? I don't like the idea of people dying, but people die nonetheless. Go look at the number of people who die in car accidents. I've done articles that touched on this, especially regarding AIDS activism and the lies we hear from them often.

When you look at people who die from the flu, they are quite often the elderly. When we get old, we are more apt to get diseases that we can't fight off. To me, at that point, you aren't really dying from the flu, you're dying of old age.

People die. I think that the real tragedy, far more than people dying of the flu, are people dying from things that we can prevent, and that we cause purposely. If you want to talk about tragedy, look at the number of Americans living with HIV when the spread of the disease could stop almost instantly if people simply cared. Look at the number of people who die just because we need cars to go from point a to point b, usually on a trip that we didn't really need to make.

The number seems reasonable to me MM. The elderly and the very young are very suseptable to death from the flu either because their bodies just can keep up with the severity of a virus, or their immune systems are simply not yet equiped to handle such an assult.

Virri are very deadly, and they, believe it or not, are very adaptable.

The US spends an awful lot of money each year coming up with a new flu shot. Some people go and get it, others do not.

I'll tell you what, Ive seen it, and its not a pretty way to pass on.

The only 2 constants in life are death and taxes.  Like Baker says, most of the ones that do die are either the very elderly whose body no longer can fight off the infections, or the very young whose body has not had time to build up immunities.  No amount of spending is going to stop that.

People who die from influenza are usually the old, the very young, and folks who have a weakened immune system due to AIDS or HIV, chemotherapy and other treatments for cancers and diseases.


I agree that it's sad, but because it's a virus there isn't much anyone can do about it - except to treat the symptoms with things like IV fluids and breathing treatments for lung congestion.

it is, but come on now, death by flu?

This is hype, moderateman. Dharma's answer, above, is spot on. They die from flu because their immune systems are somehow compromised. The CDC makes more money by omitting this rather important fact.

I studied dis and dat about ye olde virus. Interesting little buggers if you read up on them....only genetic material in a protein coat...technically they're not even alive.

But yes...people who die are often rather old or quite young and if they get hit with a particularly nasty strain and they just can't deal with it. You can get a vaccine, of course, but the damn things change all the time and there are many different kinds.

By the way...interesting tidbit...ALL viruses are harmful to their hosts...there is no virus that is benign, unless it's in the wrong host.

~Zoo

I bet at least half the people who get the "flu" every year really just caught a cold. We often get lulled into thinking that influenza is this silly little, benign bug that doesn't really bother anyone.

For those whose health is less-than-perfect, influenza can be a devastating infection. As mentioned, for old and young especially. And the flu shot is nothing more than a best guess of which specific antigenic type of flu will be most common that year. It is a best guess and due to the nature of the flu virus, will never be anything more than a best guess.

Reply By: little-whipPosted: Monday, November 13, 2006 For those whose health is less-than-perfect, influenza can be a devastating infection Get yer flu shots, Elie. Now.

aLREADY DONE.

Reply By: BakerStreetPosted: Monday, November 13, 2006 Wrong? I don't like the idea of people dying, but people die nonetheless. Go look at the number of people who die in car accidents. I've done articles that touched on this, especially regarding AIDS activism and the lies we hear from them often. When you look at people who die from the flu, they are quite often the elderly. When we get old, we are more apt to get diseases that we can't fight off. To me, at that point, you aren't really dying from the flu, you're dying of old age.

yep it really was not the bullet that killed him, he was just in the wrong place and ran into some lead.

Reply By: dharmagrlPosted: Monday, November 13, 2006 People who die from influenza are usually the old, the very young, and folks who have a weakened immune system due to AIDS or HIV, chemotherapy and other treatments for cancers and diseases.

and this makes it "right " how?

yep it really was not the bullet that killed him, he was just in the wrong place and ran into some lead.

Bu-Bu-But your honor!  he ran into my fist 15 times!  I was just flexing my muscles for my Goil!

Thanks for reminding me! I gotta get that shot!

Well I'm getting my flut shot tomorrow, and no it doesn't seem right that people die from the flu in this day and age, yet I think the doctors do all they can for their patients.

Reply #19 Well I'm getting my flut shot tomorrow, and no it doesn't seem right that people die from the flu in this day and age, yet I think the doctors do all they can for their patients.

yep trudy you seem the only one to get the message from this article.

thank you.

Reply #18 Thanks for reminding me! I gotta get that shot!

all us old farts gotta get the shot.

all us old farts gotta get the shot.

HEY!   

Have you seen what is in the flue "vaccine"? I eat at McDonalds and drink Mt Dew and I still wouldn't put that crap in my body, nor my kids!

(Citizen)ParaTed2kNovember 13, 2006 21:01:54

Have you seen what is in the flue "vaccine"? I eat at McDonalds and drink Mt Dew and I still wouldn't put that crap in my body, nor my kids!

tff ted, good to see yer still a sick puppy.

When you compare it to the total population, it's actually a pretty small percentage. People die. Such is life. At least it isn't on the order of the black plague. Folks should wash their hands more and stay the hell home when they feel sick.

I guess I don't get why you seem so surprised about this. Influenza spreads a TON faster and easier than HIV or Hepatitis. It can easily spread like wildfire and often does. Every year its multiple strands of RNA recombine, mix and match to form new antigenic types of the virus. Hell, the type that infects you can likely be different than the type you pass on.

With this shifting and recombining what should really shock you is how few people die, not how many. Your outrage just doesn't make any sense when you consider how virulent it is and how fast and frequent the virus changes.