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Why use 64bit?

Why use 64bit?

I'm just curious to know why so many people are using 64bit Vista. Most applications are 32bit only and won't run on 64bit.  Also 32bit applications with 64bit compatibility actually run slower on 64bit than they do on 32bit. Genuine 64bit applications should fly along of course, but there aren't many out there.

We had a similar choice when installing 6 new Windows 2003 servers recently. We ended up with only one 64bit server (SQL) because none of the currently available software (including Exchange 2003) would run on 64bit. All the other servers are 32bit. The future may be 64bit, but that isn't going to happen for a while.

So the question remains, why did you install 64bit Vista? I read about so many people having compatability problems with 64bit just makes me wonder   

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Reply #26 Top
64-bit is the future, obviously, and I foresee having 4GB of RAM in a year or two. 64-bit Vista also has better DEP support and PatchGuard. Not that I ever had security issues running as an admin in XP for five years, but it sounds good.
I installed 64-bit Vista because I thought all my hardware would function at least as well as on 32-bit Vista. Unfortunately, a mentally handicapped individual at Leadtek had mis-labeled the drivers for my TV tuner card.   Perhaps they get a tax break, but they've lost a customer.
The only app incompatility I've experienecd, related specifically to x64, was with Rhapsody. They haven't fixed it in over a month, so I will use one of several competing services instead.
I see it as a culling of the herd.
Reply #27 Top
I see it as a culling of the herd.


That's an interesting view. It may be even accurate.
Reply #28 Top
I use x64 and have for over 18 months. Main reason for me is to access more than 3gb of ram. No software I use doesn't run on x64 (and I use quite a lot). I use solidworks daily for work. The x64 version of solidworks is far superior to x86. I have just purchased vista ultimate as it runs things faster than XP. The upgrade from XP to vista was no where near as painful as upgrading to XP was. If you don't video edit or 3D model, or use high end apps then you wont notice anything in x64 other than the problems it can bring.
Reply #29 Top
The only message coming across to me is people in general have no idea what 64bit computing is, and what the advantages/disadvantages are   


Sounds like your original post was bait as you know the diffrence but you want to point at poeople that appear less intelligent or something.

Myself I have not installed 64b vista yet but my plan is to install it and use it as my main computer and as long as VMware works on it nothing else matters (all hardware worked fine on beta).
Reply #30 Top
32 more bits
Reply #31 Top
Well being that your on the 64 bit Question, I'm a Gamer and I have Bought Vista Ultimate and installed the 64 bit version, why, because there are several new games coming out that i want to play and some are already out in 64 bit version, and one question? Doe's DreamScene for Vista Ultimate work on 64 bit and DeskScapes. I have the DreamScene installed but gives me this error cannot run DreamScene because desktop is configured and says the Desktop is not correct size!, not sure what part of the desktop configuration they mean (size 1280x1024 is mine now) or doe's the error refere to (64 bit OS) being wrong and needs (32 bit OS)?
Reply #32 Top
Well being that your on the 64 bit Question, I'm a Gamer and I have Bought Vista Ultimate and installed the 64 bit version, why, because there are several new games coming out that i want to play and some are already out in 64 bit version, and one question? Doe's DreamScene for Vista Ultimate work on 64 bit and DeskScapes. I have the DreamScene installed but gives me this error cannot run DreamScene because desktop is configured and says the Desktop is not correct size!, not sure what part of the desktop configuration they mean (size 1280x1024 is mine now) or doe's the error refere to (64 bit OS) being wrong and needs (32 bit OS)?


Ok i figured it out, I am running Dual Monitors and i guess you have to run a single Monitor only unless there is a setting somewhere to fix this problem!

Running ATI X800XL 256mb memory DDR3
Reply #33 Top
I was wrong in my statement above #21

Windows Vista is the BEST OS ever!
I am using it for 2 weeks now and I find only "wow" options
There are no problems at all for me!
Reply #34 Top
32 more bits


  
Reply #35 Top

I expect I'll be using 64-bit Vista within another two years. By then, the compatibility issues should be largely dealt with.

But I've done my due with OS/2, I'm not going to be an early adopter.  I am already keenly aware of the extra work developers have tod o to support 64-bit.  I know a lot of our apps don't support 64-bit yet because of the extra work combined with small market.

Reply #36 Top
Wanted to take advantage of the 4gigs of memory I have and my 64 bit processor. I have been running the 64 bit version of Vista since its release and have had far less problems with it than I had in any previous version of MS OS's in the same time frame. I have only run into 2 applications that will not work with it currently, one of which is Windows Blinds. I have heard that the 64 bit version of WB is coming so I am a happy camper so far. All in all it seems much more stable and like many others, I believe that 64 bit applications will be the norm over the next few years so why not ?
Reply #37 Top
Running 64-bit O/S on a 32-bit machine is ok as far as that goes. Wait until the 64-bit machines hit the market more than they are now and you'll have a screamer+. Speed is only limited by the amount of data lines on the MB. Vista64 on a 64-bit machine...light speed would be slow in comparison. I 'll wait until all drivers and such are available.
This way when I build my next one it'll beat the crap out of the one I have
Reply #38 Top
x64 Processing Architechture is to do with your processor. 32 bit and 64 bit completely different processors.

If you do have a 64 bit processor, get a 64 bit version of Windows Vista or XP. But the main problem is support, support is the main issue, but this issue has been addressed poorly. As there has been a lack of support for Vista multiplied by the lack of support for 64 bit.

Its like buying a really fast car, but u can't go into 6th gear. I'm glad Apple had an easier time implementing their new technologies. If u r having trouble wid x64 go back 2 32 bit and sigh about the lack of compadibility. Sigh, that 3 billion dollars and 2 years overdue hasn't been able to show the majority of users new technology. Tho i used x64 Vista and most applications work fine, drivers are the main issue tho.

There is no solid answer, tho there should b, x64 opens a vast improvement in technology, but unfortunately the infrastructure to provide this is lacking and it is a gamble to users.

Its called dual booting!!!

Feel like such a hypocrite saying that lol, and im onli 17 argh!!!
Reply #39 Top

I know a lot of our apps don't support 64-bit yet because of the extra work combined with small market.

Until 64bit becomes more mainstream support is going to be patchy at best, it's just not cost effective. The end user loses out of course, but we should be used to that by now I will be waiting for the right moment before going 64bit. At least with Vista you get a 32/64 choice on install, so a future step up isn't so painful and costly.

For now 32bit suits me fine. 64bit is too leading edge to be practical, despite it's advantages. I've mostly gone back to XP for day to day pc use anyway. I'll be waiting till the whole thing matures.

Reply #40 Top
Well you seem to have gotten your answer already, but to add my 25 cents ( damn inflation!   ) I bought the Windows Ultimate retail vesion and you have the option of 32 or 64 bit. I installed 32 bit for now because of two big reasons - drivers and Object Desktop. Once they are availible and running in 64 bit versions, you can bet I'll be doing a fresh clean install again with 64bit.
Reply #41 Top
I'm running two 7600GS cards in SLI with Vista 32 bit. Go to nvidia nzone and get the 101.41 beta drivers. I have had no issues running them so far, been over a month. As far as the 64 bit deal, I went through the same thought process myself before I finally decided to go with Vista Home Premium 32bit. Not enough software out for 64bit yet. Also, I eventually plan to upgrade from Home premium to Ultimate in the near future, so I'd have to spend more money on an OS anyway.
Reply #42 Top
i run an AMD 64 3000+ 2.0ghz and win XP 64 bit and hhave come across no compatability issues (yet)

i cant wait for companies to bring out native 64 bit software then i can make full use of the 64 bits in my cpu
Reply #43 Top
Everybody tries to make everything so difficult, when it is so easy. The people that make computers want money. Therefore every 3 or so years, you have to have a new computer. It's like gas. It is'nt that it cost more, it's the fact that summer is coming up and they know they can get whatever they want. So many people have said "Money Changes Everything" "Money" so it's quite simple. MONEY. I've got a eMachine. Last computer I will ever buy. Been doing this for 30 some years, and all it is, is upgrade, upgrade, upgrade. $5,000 for a computer to play games. Oh yea, I'm gonna be all over that. As long as I have strings on my guitar, and like the song say's " I just thank the Lord for hands to play this piece of wood and steel" i'm happy. Peace. Keep up the good reason's to spend a few thousand dollars.
Reply #44 Top
i got the 64 bit version because it has greater coding and a greater architecture and is more far more superior and stable then the 32 bit versions, with the 64 bit hardware the OS is (to me it is) a lot faster...so far i have yet to get any BSOD's with vista x64 compared to a lot of the BSOD's i would get in XP pro (32 bit)when playing games like DooM 3,quake IV and HL2 ETC..plus not to mention being that 64 bit is alot more superior and stable then that of 32 bit eventually in the next 2 to 5 years, 64 bit will push out 32 bit all together
Reply #45 Top
Why why why!!!!
Well let's start off
ALL programs are compatible with 64 bit OS
Because
If you go to
C:\Users\USER\
There is
Program Files
And
Program files (x86)
Just in case it's not compatible with 64 bit version
And, it's better
It process double the bits of data at one time
So yeah
thats why
Reply #46 Top
Windows Vista is the BEST OS ever!
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I'm rolling my eyes...

Therefore every 3 or so years, you have to have a new computer.
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Hippie I like the points you make. You are so right. It's all about money. This Dell I own has been around for awhile as it still has a Windows 98 SE COA on it. It has a Celeron 1 Gig CPU and 256 megs of memory and I don't have any problems using XP nor Fedora 7. No bottlenecks at all. They want you to buy a new PC because like everything else it's all about money.

Reply #47 Top
Anyone out there trying to dual boot Vista 23 and 64 on the same partition? Or is that not possible? Just wondering because I have a Core 2 Duo and am currently running Vista 32 but was thingking about trying Vista 64 as well. I know you cannot upgrade 32 to 64 but could I force Vista 64 into a different folder and not trash teh Vista 32 install?
Reply #48 Top
If you REALLY want speed, just install windows 95 on your current computer.
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I'm not sure I'm that desperate for speed......  
Reply #49 Top
Windows Vista is the BEST OS ever!
I am using it for 2 weeks now and I find only "wow" options
There are no problems at all for me!
End of quote


*puke*  
Reply #50 Top
I would not run Vista 64-bit yet. I know of far too many programs and drivers that don't support it yet.

When it gets better supported, I would use it because it can address more memory.
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I was going to add Vista Ultimate 64 to this one here soon. But changed my mind and will be building a new machine to go here with my others. That will make 4 computers here on this desktop then. Vista Ultimate 32 bit, 64 bit, XP Pro and Server 2003. Plus if Vista ever works with the new server 2008 when it is finally released. I'll be upgrading to that also and getting rid of my server 2003.

Everybody tries to make everything so difficult, when it is so easy. The people that make computers want money. Therefore every 3 or so years, you have to have a new computer. It's like gas. It is'nt that it cost more, it's the fact that summer is coming up and they know they can get whatever they want. So many people have said "Money Changes Everything" "Money" so it's quite simple.
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You are completely right Hippie~! They want your money first up. But I want their software and programs no matter what it cost. To make money now days - you must stay in the game. Sure it is a money game and everyone plays it. But I have to stay on top of that to be part of that ever so quickly moving game to win. There are always problems and people with the same. The real deal is we all have to find a place to work those things out. Just to get what we want. Otherwise you are just what you are and where you are in the fast moving world of technology.

There are some real good reasons to move over to 64 bit. But with the way things are for systems running such. Are you happy with it? Good then we should be happy for you and hope that everyone else using 64 bit is as patient as you are. Thus problems will in time be worked out and everyone will get exactly what they paid for~! MAYBE?

SGT