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System requirements? Raise the high end please...

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System requirements? Raise the high end please...

This is a 2008 game, it should be designed for current day hardware...

from Sins Forums
Let me first off state that I KNOW the requirements have not been set in stone, but they seem to be lower that what is considered the norm these days...

Thinking about it, since the game is to be released in 2008 , I feel the system requirements should be bumped up a bit to allow having turrets fully functional along with hangers being able to be raised and lowered (TEC Carrier for Example). Swarms of fighters and bombers (30-40 at a time)... Massive fleets and defenses... And such...

As of this year the mainstream PC is becoming DUAL CORE and VISTA compliant. What does this mean, it means Most PCs will have at least 1 GB of RAM (some with 2GB and up to 4GB) and a pretty decent video card (128Mb-256Mb are standard) 320Mb, 512MB, 640Mb ,768Mb and 1GB video cards are on the market or soon will be, along with 2 cores and for the enthusiasts 4 core CPUs!

While no specific requirements have been set yet, it should at least be addressed...

Sure there might be a few people left behind, but PC gaming is EXPENSIVE, and the people who buy a game like SOASE have a average or better PC (Schem not included). Or by 2008 they probably will.

ADDITION: Let me be clear that everyone who can play the game as it is should still be able to once it is released, I just want the most possible eye candy in this game to be an option for those of us who want it.

Just some thoughts... All responses welcome! But keep it civil!

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Reply #51 from Sins Forums Top
2MB of onboard video memory, should be enough for anyone!
Reply #52 from Sins Forums Top
2MBs??? Damn talk about a time warp!!! My last system to have 2MBs was an Apple notebook back in 1992 if I remember correctly.
Star Control: Origins
Reply #53 from Sins Forums Top
hehe Packard Bell PC back in 1993 , 2 MB Video Memory! And it Played Myst just fine!
Reply #54 from Sins Forums Top
I really do hope the turrets move and have a recoil animation when firing. I mean, Homeworld 2 could manage that easily. It would be strange if years later and with massive hardware advances, Sins couldn't manage it.
Reply #55 from Sins Forums Top
Valve has released its 2007 hardware survey and the data is very interesting. All those people that argued that multicore systems where barely noticeable and not likely to be a dominate platform even by next year will have some crow to eat. The data shows that nearly 22% of valve gamers have multicore systems. There is much more but I'll let you enterprising people discover it for yourselves.

The direct link:
WWW Link
Reply #56 from Sins Forums Top
Valve gamers are FPS gamers and those on the hardcore fringe. It is not representative of the overall market.
Reply #57 from Sins Forums Top
Valve gamers are FPS gamers and those on the hardcore fringe. It is not representative of the overall market.


Still, I'm surprised how some of those people run source games.
Reply #58 from Sins Forums Top

Valve gamers are FPS gamers and those on the hardcore fringe. It is not representative of the overall market.


I dont see how you can dismiss FPS gamers as not representative of the overall market. FPS are (and correctly me if I'm wrong here) a major part of the entire gaming market. I dont consider a group of over 360k people a "fringe" group. Additionally I understand over have of the Valve players responded. More to the point, what is implied is that people who are FPS players don't play other types of games. That is absurd in my opinion.
Reply #59 from Sins Forums Top
More to the point, what is implied is that people who are FPS players don't play other types of games. That is absurd in my opinion.


Exactly, first and foremost I play FPS, but I also play RTS and 4x strategy. So that poll can also be applied to not just FPS gamers.
Reply #60 from Sins Forums Top

FPS games tend to go with the bleeding edge of graphics technology; after all, most game engines come from FPS releases (Quake, Doom, Unreal, Source).  This means that most FPS players have the fastest gaming rigs and upgrade frequently. Players who are more into strategy, adventure, RPGs, etc. do not require cutting edge PCs, and so they don't upgrade as often. Hence, why I said that a survey that's taken from an audience of mostly FPS gamers is not representative of the entire market.

Reply #61 from Sins Forums Top
I believe that the final in game graphics/effects will be a bit more polished. Those of us with the hardware will still be able to turn things up to a satisfactory level.

Also keep in mind that Ironclad is talking about a DirectX 10 content download for us at a later date. Unlike most companies, I actually believe Ironclad will deliver on this.

It should all be good.
Reply #62 from Sins Forums Top
FPS games tend to go with the bleeding edge of graphics technology; after all, most game engines come from FPS releases (Quake, Doom, Unreal, Source). This means that most FPS players have the fastest gaming rigs and upgrade frequently. Players who are more into strategy, adventure, RPGs, etc. do not require cutting edge PCs, and so they don't upgrade as often. Hence, why I said that a survey that's taken from an audience of mostly FPS gamers is not representative of the entire market.

ah yarlen, the marketing guru
he's right. even if RTS dominated the gaming environment entirely, he should still be concerned with his largest consumers; the RTS folks who usually do not have grand, golden-silver diamond-inlaid rigs.
Reply #63 from Sins Forums Top
Also keep in mind that Ironclad is talking about a DirectX 10 content download for us at a later date. Unlike most companies, I actually believe Ironclad will deliver on this.


Yes Direct x10, while my cards are dx10 compatible I haven't had the chance to play one of the few games that uses, and barely uses it at that.

Hearing Ironclad will most likely release a patch for that makes me happy, and will keep me from bothering them on this thread any longer.
Reply #64 from Sins Forums Top
he's right. even if RTS dominated the gaming environment entirely, he should still be concerned with his largest consumers; the RTS folks who usually do not have grand, golden-silver diamond-inlaid rigs.

And I'm a living testament to that...     
Reply #65 from Sins Forums Top
In general laptops are not designed for high end gaming. As of real time strategy game >sins< will have big battles with great numbers of fleet in one view, thus making it impossible even to think that they could make the game compatible to old computers or laptops.

At the moment the most common computer in europe should be around
7600GT
1gb ram
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ or Intel Pentium D 935, 3.2Ghz LGA775
Windows XP home

Early next year the majority is using about 50% more powerful parts like mentioned above. As of you can double the computer specs in every 2 years, when developing a game.

My rig atm is :
GeForce 8800GTS 320MB GDDR3 PCI-E
800MHz DDR2 1gb+1gb
Intel Core 2 Duo E6600, 2.40 GHz, Socket 775, FSB 1066, 4MB Cache
Western Digital Caviar SE 250GB SATA II 8.9ms 7200rpm
Vista ultimate 32bit

and for eyecandy/pleasure

Samsung SyncMaster 226BW 22'' 1000:1/2MS/1680X1050

Thus a warning that samsung had some 226BW screens released with "bad" lcd screens/"firmware" , the native resolution was locked to 1600x1200, and it should be 1680x1050. but a good LCD screen tbh, i have two

Updating the computer early next year to quad core and better graphics card and to 4gb of memory.

when i buy games i intend to enjoy them, and hardware should not be an obstacle.

/BL
Reply #66 from Sins Forums Top

Oct 30th is going to be an exciting time as the first-gen DX10 MMO Age of Conan releases (I've already upgraded to a 640MB 8800GTS to beat the rush).


Eh..
Ever heard of EVE-Online?
The engine has been using 100% DX10 for a while already

But anyway,
I get about 20-30 fps with full settings in Sins with my current setup.

2.4GHz Celeron
2GB Ram
GeForce 7800 GS 512MB
Reply #67 from Sins Forums Top
I've got a computer with 1,7 GHZ and it must run on that...otherwise   
Reply #68 from Sins Forums Top
I think the biggest graphics bang I've gotten in years is moving from a 22" CRT to a 24" widescreen LCD monitor.  I honestly didn't think the difference would be that great, but wow.  The graphics in all games just pop now and everything seems new again.
Reply #69 from Sins Forums Top
I think the biggest graphics bang I've gotten in years is moving from a 22" CRT to a 24" widescreen LCD monitor.  I honestly didn't think the difference would be that great, but wow.  The graphics in all games just pop now and everything seems new again.

That's because you paid so much for it that your brain is in denial. It WANTS everything to look cool or it would have to face the needless loss of cash.
Reply #70 from Sins Forums Top

FPS games tend to go with the bleeding edge of graphics technology; after all, most game engines come from FPS releases (Quake, Doom, Unreal, Source). This means that most FPS players have the fastest gaming rigs and upgrade frequently. Players who are more into strategy, adventure, RPGs, etc. do not require cutting edge PCs, and so they don't upgrade as often. Hence, why I said that a survey that's taken from an audience of mostly FPS gamers is not representative of the entire market.





I guess I must be different. You see I dont like FPS at all. I'm a real hardcore sim, strat & RPG player and I have a PC gamer for about 25 years. Now with that said I spent over $15K a little over two months ago on my new gaming rig and I spent $10k on my last one a little over three years ago and $5k on the one (dont have it anymore) four years prior. So what group would you put me in?

Additionally I would have to assume many if not most of the FPS do play other types of games. Anyway I would like you guys to do a similar annual survey so we can compare the data. Shoot if nothing else it would get SD some good marketing mileage if promoted properly within the industry news venues.
Reply #71 from Sins Forums Top
The group with too much money who should donate some new hardware to me.   
Reply #72 from Sins Forums Top

I think the biggest graphics bang I've gotten in years is moving from a 22" CRT to a 24" widescreen LCD monitor. I honestly didn't think the difference would be that great, but wow. The graphics in all games just pop now and everything seems new again.


only 2"

then it must have been a BIG step for me, when i went from a 17" monitor to a 22" LCD widescreen
Reply #73 from Sins Forums Top

The group with too much money who should donate some new hardware to me.   


Surely Santa Brad keeps you guys cherry with all the latest and greatest written off as a business expense.

Anyway believe me if i thought it would be worth the shipping I would send you my "inventory" because I have lots of SCSI external drives, 20" monitors, printers and other items and parts just sitting collecting dust. I have often considered donating the lot to the local high school but I dont speak the local language and my wife always forgets to call.
Reply #74 from Sins Forums Top
that would be really nice of you
Nice to hear about ppl wanna help others

But can the school use that old stuff?

I dont speak the local language

You live in the US? so where you original from?
Reply #75 from Sins Forums Top
To answer your question, I'm an American who decided move to Japan to work on research for a PhD and also wanted to leave the US out of protest due to Mr Bush's takeover of the government but I digress..

Anyway the old stuff are things like dual Xeon 3.2 Ghz CPUs with Quadro 4k cards, fiber and cable routers as well as switchers and large monitors -etc... by far way better then what the school would have if my step sons institution is indicative of the average school here.

I got him a top of the line Dell media laptop three months ago for getting into a tech high school and he took it with him one day and is now treated as some sort of God as it blows away everything in his school lab even on the faculty side of the house. Then again I would not expect the schools to blow nearly $5K on a laptop for high school kids.

Shoot I have advanced engineering clients who work for Canon, Sony, Toshiba, NEC and other such companies (This is so because I live in the Silicon Valley of Japan) and they all tell me they wish they had stuff half as good as I do for my personal systems to work on. Believe it or not some are still developing on W2K, WM and use P4 systems!!! I even do private beta testing for some of them which is way cool because I have had an influence on several major projects for a few companies but sadly I get no public credit for my work. But hey I'll be happy with money only.