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A hints how to go vs Advent

A hints how to go vs Advent

Hello, i'm new to the game as are you maybe :)
I really liked the Alien race Vasari, and i need some hint , tips and tricks how to
play better with them vs Advent. I mean , what kind of capitol ships is recommended to build.
What cruisers, tactics and stuff.
My enemy is average player , who mixes a 2 of that 3 of this 4 of them. He don't have any specific tactic and he don't know a lot but he is cunning and may mass ships or something.

Thanks :)

1vs1 map i talk about. And i haven't yet pkayed vs him.
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Reply #51 Top
Real alien men use mind bullets.

Are you saying that the TEC's massive economy does not hinder your shield capabilities? That's unfortunate.

Let me know when you face the 2 TEC supercannon + scout tactic. It's fun.
Reply #52 Top

Real alien men use mind bullets.

Are you saying that the TEC's massive economy does not hinder your shield capabilities? That's unfortunate.

Let me know when you face the 2 TEC supercannon + scout tactic. It's fun.
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I was half jesting half being serious. This is a strategy game. Not a matter of life and death. There's no ultimatums and everything is only limited by the scope of your own ability. So it doesn't matter how many bleeding uber strategies you can think of because there's probably someone with 10 000 000 uber strategies to counter it. And that's what makes strategy games fun.

And before you say anything. I've beaten 4 hard AI by myself on locked teams with the achievements to prove it, fought tonnes of times with real people, and yes, I've destroyed superweapons. If that's so bloody important to you.
Reply #53 Top
I wasn't questioning your strategy skills there, I was joking around. Hence the reason for what I thought would be taken as a tenacious D tie in.
Reply #54 Top
Personally I feel the advent are overpowered, particularly early to mid game. Their cap ships are lethal even early, I mean shield regen is crazy strong, so is antimatter burn. And when I am playing Vasari, a decent advent always kills me early. They get so many disciples it more than makes up for weaker individual units. And they are so fast that its easy to micro them away from the fight if one is dying (in relatively small engagements).

Some of their cap ships abilities REALLY need toned down.
Reply #55 Top
Anasus, Vasari have some pretty great counters to Advent, maybe you could try changing your buildup a little if you know you're facing an advent player? (i mean, Phase Out for instance by the Desolator really screws up the Advent mothership, especially since you can keep it phased with a little micro) And don't count out your own capships, a carrier supporting a fleet with repair cloud becomes incredibly hard to kill allowing your more powerful, but less numerous vessels to win. Also, don't discount your phase missiles. Nothing hurts the advent's weaker armor early on like simply ignoring their massive shields. (since armor research is at the top tiers of research, they won't have acces to this early in the game)

There is little need to cry nerf right away, a little balancing maybe, but not nerfing.
Reply #56 Top
In general I did notice the vasari start off a bit weaker than the other two races. It seems like the tec and advent caps can handle the start by themselves, allowing me to split up the frigates to do other things. With the vasari, I have to have a cap plus frigates to take some planets and hold off pirates.

Maybe it's just me on that one though.
Reply #57 Top
One thing id like to add: Its Capital Ships. Focus on the a there. What the hell would you wanna do with a capitol ship? Hold a senate session?!
Reply #58 Top
Phase Out is one of the Antorak Marauder's primary abilities, not the Vulkoras Desolator's. The Desolator has Phase Missile Swarm, Deploy Siege Turret, and some static defense booster as it's primary abilities, and has the hp-leeching Disintegration as it's ultimate(Level 6) ability.