Another New Tax Law Hits The Books

...? If Married and RDP have the same rights, anyway, what's the problem with having them under the same line?

Outside your hate-spreading agenda?



we've been there once when you cried about it, and it had been debunked

Discussed yes.  Debunked no.

I dont read any hate. Perhaps you can pick out the hate words in this article?  It appears fairly factual, with perhaps some loaded words indicating a bias (homosexual agenda), but nothing to indicate hate.  Perhaps you should re-read it with an eye on what is being discussed and towards discussing it instead of injecting your own hate-spreading agenda?

As for the article, this one falls under "be careful what you wish for, you just might get it".  I especially love this part:

married/RDP filing jointly or married/RDP filing separately filing status

Now they get screwed like all the religiously married couples as well!  When will people learn that the Government is NOT your friend!

check it out yourself.  What I wrote about in the past was what was coming.....now it's here with the signing of a brand new law on the books in CA to be introduced to all the little schoolkids as they change all the textbooks to reflect this new change. 

nope, no hate intended.  Just reporting the facts.  In fact, I've given really no opinion here at all.  My husband just came home with the new law and I had just seen the news release concerning a new law that came from Arnold's desk and put both together. 

It's funny how things come across as hate when you only just disagree about things isn't it?  There's lots of things I disagree about but do not hate.  Don't you? 

And you're right Doc....I do have a bias AGAINST this agenda....not hate tho.  So thanks for being right on. 

 

Don't you know that having a bias is hatred?

Really?  Says who?

Saints?

Everybody says it!

well you know what they say? 

You're either a saint........ or you ain't.....:P

*putting on the mommy voice*......."do you ALWAYS believe what EVERYBODY says?  Hmmmmm?

 

Well, yeah. Why else would they say it, if not to make me believe it?

Simply fighting against the gay community's agenda denotes a serious negative connotation. What is their agenda? To be accepted by all fringe of the population, and everybody sees them as "normal people", so that a gay teen is not ostracised in school. A high percentage of the gay population has mental/social trouble that resulted of the negative attitude of many peoples around them.

To simply fight against this means refusing to acknowledge that gays have the right to live a normal life like any other people means you hold them as lower being than yourself. They are not asking for pro-eminence, they are fighting for a normal life.

Holding someone as a lower being than yourself, refusing him the rights to not be ostracized as a youth IS hate. A hate expressed in a cold and detached way, but still a hate. You do not go beat up faggots in Villages, but you still want them to feel bad about what they are.

And that, I call it hate.

... no. Wrong. They're human beings, I don't want them to feel bad about what they are. The problem is what they do. Sex outside of marriage is a sin. Marriage is defined by the same book that defines sex outside marriage as a sin as the union between a man and a woman. Therefore, any homosexual acts is, by definition, sex outside of marriage.

Are they lower than me? No. I sin too. But I don't go saying the sins are okay and that others should accept those behaviours.

Therefore, you consider them automaticly bad peoples because of what they are. If your "book" said that black people are sinful, you would believe the same. Luckily for them, they have been spared. Homosexual peoples are not as lucky, and peoples like you and KFC simply makes it easier for people to accept their rejection as "normal behavior".

Sorry but I must disagree with you. Until the left made it an issue and persecuted homosexuals from the late 40’s to the mid 60’s no body cared if you were gay or not. 22 years ago I lived in California and they were first putting out “project 10” it went on the premise that 10% of the population was gay so starting in kindergarten children would be taught that homosexuality was ok and the children would be taught to explore this homosexuality in school. I as a parent did not agree with this recruitment effort of the gay community so I packed up my family and moved to Florida. I am the parent of my child I will decide what is best for my child not some person that does not have children to rise but is looking for fresh meat. I have never had a problem with homosexuals and mostly don’t care what they do as long as they don’t include me or my minor children in their antics. If my child was gay that is fine but I am not sending my children to school to learn sex I am sending them to school to learn what they need to learn in order to survive in this world. I now have two granddaughters the youngest one was born yesterday. She is 25 hours old as I write this the gay agenda has always been to fit in and recruit because their numbers are far less than the 10% they claim it is less than 1% which means pickings are slim for them. It is their choice to be homosexual as it is my choice to be heterosexual I am not going to support any effort to train and indoctrinate children into a lifestyle that is based on free will. That is not hate it is my choice.

If being black was a controllable action (ie, you had to paint yourself black) and the Bible said that being black was a sin, yeah I'd be against it. But someone would have to willfully choose to paint themselves. Just like people willfully choose to engage in homosexual activities. "Because of what they are" is crap. It's what they choose to do.

The Bible isn't going to say that being black is a sin, because sin is willful disobedience to God. You can't will yourself to be or not to be black.

Yes Jay.

We have to ask ourselves.  What is sin?  Sin is rebellion against God.  Being black is not a sin.  It's a genetic trait.  Being a homosexual is NOT a genetic trait nor has a "gay gene" ever been found. 

We should alway speak out against sin.  That's what Christians are called to do.  Men having sex with men and women having sex with women is an abomination to God and we speak out against it.  It has nothing to do with hate.  Actually from a Christian POV by not saying anything at all we are not doing society any favors.  Think of what happened in Sodom and Gomorrah. 

I think our country is in trouble.  I absolutely believe we are like a basket of summer fruit on a hot summer day. 

My uncle was a homosexual.  I loved him.  I treated him no different than any other family member.  Actually I enjoyed his company.  That does NOT mean I condoned his behavior.  So there is no hate involved here and I think many like me feel the same. 

 

 

Not true. Simply fighting against them is to disagree with their agenda. And there are many reasons. Sadly, we can no longer debate the issue because of the rhetoric that says "if you disagree then you hate me". Taht is only true for those who no longer have an argument and must resort to emotive debate instead of reasoned debate.

I disagree with Gays and marriage. I agree with Gays and Civil unions. I guess that makes me hate them (I got to send this to my brother so he can get a chuckle). The truth is there is no hate in her original post (I cannot say in her heart as I do not know her heart). But there is a bias against their agenda. Some of which I agree with, some of which I do not. But until you injected hate into it, there was none here, just a discussion on issues where they do have 2 sides. not one.

I think you need to look into the mirror. Not for your hatred of gays, but of your intolerance for anyone who does not march in lock step with you.

 I hate the whole homosexual agenda. I don't have a problem with gay people. It's their eternity. Right? What I have a problem with is a minority who is shoving their ideology in our faces every chance they get. I am a Christian and unlike some I don't wear it as a badge on my chest. I don't generally go telling the world or spreading the word. That isn't something I have been compelled to do since I was a child.

So here is my real issue... If I don't have the right to teach about God in schools, why do they get the right to teach homosexuality?

If homosexuality is so "natural" why do the gay activists insist it needs to be taught in schools?

Remember when schools were there to educate kids, instead of "re-educate" them.

good points.....and it's about to get worse.  I don't think we have a say anymore.  It's discouraging.  The minority once again makes the rules. 

There was some booklet I read about in the news about a week ago, pushing this agenda even further.  It was sent to 16,000 Superintendents across the nation.  I'm wondering how/if we can get our hands on this now that I think about it. 

 

 

The sad fact is, who made the gay agenda necessary in the first place? Well, it was those who persecuted gays. When they were left alone, nobody cared. When people started killing them because they were gay, they needed to defend themselves. So they taught tolerance, instead of the church teaching love the sinner hate the sin.

Jythier:

I agree that no one should be persecuted for their lifestyle choices. Gay people shouldn't be abused, but does the lifestyle have to be taught in school?

So what you're saying Jay, is once more we are making new rules and regs out of emotionalism?  We feel bad you've been treated so badly so let's go overboard to help you do freely with our blessings now what we once used to think was sin? 

When we get caught up in emotion instead of using our heads we can get into some serious trouble. 

I wonder how they are going to teach genetics or beginnings in health or sex-ed classes now.  No more mommy and daddy teaching.  So how will this be re-written I wonder? 

 

Zoo clicks on the article, reads it and the following comments.

He then thinks to himself, "No way in hell am I jumping in this mess."

He clicks the "Home" button to find less inflammatory material.

~Zoo

That's what happened. But it wouldn't have if they hadn't been persecuted to begin with.

Best.
Decision.
Ever.