On Global Warming

My thoughts on global warming.

from JoeUser Forums

I am a skeptic of Global Warming. I believe that most people are hypocrites on the matter, whatever they say.

I have no good evidence of global warming. I've always endured high temperature where I live, and they're not getting worse. Also, I feel that all the "massive trend" is not really true. There is, in my opinion, nothing in our atmosphere messing us up. What I believe is one of the problems is the amount of air conditioning, as much as anything else. Energy can be converted, but not destroyed. Heat will not conduct into space at a major rate. Basically, air conditioning is putting what would be 90+ degree temperatures in a large area into 72 degrees. It may not be much, but add in skyscrapers, and you've got a large volume of cooled environment. Not to mention more specific cooling devices such as refrigerators. You end up cooling a small area, and the heat goes outwards. Now, it's not much of a change, but I seriously believe that it's one of the only things affecting our environment. So, Al Gore, go sit in your air-conditioned gas-guzzling limo and keep on speaking.

Also, anyone else noticed how few of the exponents of global warming are actually scientists? Or how few of them practice what they preach?

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Reply #1 from Stardock Forums Top

nothing in our atmosphere messing us up.
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Pollution messes us up, for sure. :D Just ask China about that Asian brown cloud. :)

I'm willing to pay attention to global warming...I won't dismiss it outright and I won't preach it as God's honest truth.  I know polar ice caps have been melting, article wildlife has been suffereing...so something is getting warmer somewhere along the line.  Whether it's a global warming phenomenon remains to be seen...but I've an open mind about it.

~Zoo

Reply #2 from Stardock Forums Top

I'm willing to pay attention to global warming...I won't dismiss it outright and I won't preach it as God's honest truth.  I know polar ice caps have been melting, article wildlife has been suffereing...so something is getting warmer somewhere along the line.  Whether it's a global warming phenomenon remains to be seen...but I've an open mind about it.
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Precisely. Also, why not take care of the enviroment anyway?

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Reply #3 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Zoologist03, reply 1


Pollution messes us up, for sure. Just ask China about that Asian brown cloud.

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Ah, crap, misspoke. What I meant to say was clarify that pollution is, in my opinion, not heating the Earth. It kills us, but the Earth is doing fine heat-wise regardless of it.

Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top
Psst! The cause is that great big ball of fire in the sky. And there aint enough water on earth to put it out!
Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top
Psst! The cause is that great big ball of fire in the sky. And there aint enough water on earth to put it out!
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As an acquaintance put it: We should just all piss on it.

:p
Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top
The cause is that great big ball of fire in the sky.
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*psst* It's not really fire, merely a huge fusion reaction. ;)

~Zoo
Reply #7 from Stardock Forums Top

Plasma, ain't it?

Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top
Plasma, ain't it?
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Plasma exists there...superheated matter beyond the gaseous state.

However, the sun is a fusion reactor powered by hydrogen and super high temperatures. Hydrogen atoms bump into each other making deuterium(heavy hydrogen, i.e. hydrogen with a proton and a neutron in the nucleus). That deuterium will bump into another hydrogen making helium-3. Two helium-3 will react and produce helium-4 and two hydrogens. WWW Link

All that bumping and merging releases heat and light...and boom, ya have sunlight. :)

~Zoo

Reply #9 from Stardock Forums Top



 All that bumping and merging releases heat and light...and boom, ya have sunlight. ~Zoo

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That struck me very funny. Need more sleep and free time.

Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top
*psst* It's not really fire, merely a huge fusion reaction.

~Zoo
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If everyone keeps "psst" on it, it will go out!  :LOL: 
Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top
All that bumping and merging releases heat and light...and boom, ya have sunlight.
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Did you just prove the big bang theory?

If everyone keeps "psst" on it, it will go out!
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so if Cars are increasing global warming would beer then be contributing to global cooling? After all it doesn't take too many beers before you have to psst!

Three cheers for beer! :CONGRAT:
Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top
Did you just prove the big bang theory?
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Well, a theory can't be proven...just supported with evidence. :P


Either way I didn't come close...I didn't delve into singularities. :D Just an ol' fashion nuclear fushion reaction. :)

~Zoo
Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top
Well, a theory can't be proven...just supported with evidence.
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boom, bang let's call the whole thing off :P

Reply #14 from Stardock Forums Top

Seriously, though, the Big Bang is the worst work of mythology I've ever heard. It isn't even entertaining. And it's nowhere near believable.

Reply #15 from JoeUser Forums Top
so if Cars are increasing global warming would beer then be contributing to global cooling? After all it doesn't take too many beers before you have to psst!

Three cheers for beer!
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like your thinking!  :CONGRAT: 
Reply #16 from JoeUser Forums Top

Beer is bad. Try drinking a ton of water.

Organized soda-drinking competitions. Find a Red Robin (or similar place with unlimited drinks), and get a group of at least ten people. Put the entry fee to $4, with a $15 prize. Boom, cools down the Earth (if that theory is correct), and you make money off it. And have a good time.

Reply #17 from JoeUser Forums Top
Seriously, though, the Big Bang is the worst work of mythology I've ever heard. It isn't even entertaining. And it's nowhere near believable.
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Apparently you have a hard time understanding what a myth is. I shall define for you: A traditional, typically ancient story dealing with supernatural beings, ancestors, or heroes that serves as a fundamental type in the worldview of a people, as by explaining aspects of the natural world or delineating the psychology, customs, or ideals of society.

There ya go. So the Bible is one big collection of myths, you see. :D Hope that clears things up.


Did you know a Catholic priest first came up with the Big Bang Theory?  :SURPRISED: 

~Zoo
Reply #18 from JoeUser Forums Top
Did you know a Catholic priest first came up with the Big Bang Theory?
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I came up with the theory that the world is entirely constructed to my specifications in order that I live a perfect life and have a wonderful time, and that everything here was truly a figment of my imagination, and that I was the only sentient thing in the universe - everyone else was actually controlled by me in order to give me people to talk to, problems to solve, etc.

It was quite a good theory except that I hated my life. :D

Anyway, who cares what a Catholic priest theorized about? Are you saying that, because he was a Catholic priest, that coming up with a secular theory makes it a Christian theory? Because it doesn't. Lately we've been finding out a lot about the unChristian things that Catholic priests have been doing...
Reply #19 from Stardock Forums Top

Yeah, the individual can stray a lot.

Reply #20 from JoeUser Forums Top
Are you saying that, because he was a Catholic priest, that coming up with a secular theory makes it a Christian theory?
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Nope, just presenting the fact that it wasn't dreamed up by one of those crazy atheist scientists that creationists seem so worried about.

I came up with the theory that the world is entirely constructed to my specifications in order that I live a perfect life and have a wonderful time, and that everything here was truly a figment of my imagination, and that I was the only sentient thing in the universe - everyone else was actually controlled by me in order to give me people to talk to, problems to solve, etc.
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For a philosophical theory, it's not bad...in fact there are a few that are pretty close to that. i.e. We exist in a world of our own design and we're the only ones that are "real" in it.

But scientific theories are different. They are objective not subjective, and they are open to experimentation and peer review. In order to become a theory in the first place it has to endure a lot of scrutiny. :) The colloquial meaning of the word 'theory' more closely resembles a hypothesis.

~Zoo
Reply #21 from JoeUser Forums Top
For a philosophical theory, it's not bad...in fact there are a few that are pretty close to that. i.e. We exist in a world of our own design and we're the only ones that are "real" in it.
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The day after I hypothesized, I read "The Ultimate Egoist" by Theodore Sturgeon, and was amazed at what a sense of humor I had. :D
Reply #22 from Stardock Forums Top

"I came up with the theory that the world is entirely constructed to my specifications in order that I live a perfect life and have a wonderful time, and that everything here was truly a figment of my imagination, and that I was the only sentient thing in the universe - everyone else was actually controlled by me in order to give me people to talk to, problems to solve, etc."

Those are fairly obviously untrue... unless...  :HOT:

Reply #23 from JoeUser Forums Top
Hey Zoo, can we agree that Creationism is a philosophical theory while evolution is a scientific theory? :D Can we agree on SOMETHING here?
Reply #24 from Stardock Forums Top

Hey Zoo, can we agree that Creationism is a philosophical theory while evolution is a scientific theory?
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Yes, yes we can. :)

~Zoo

Reply #25 from Stardock Forums Top

No. I view them both as philosophical and scientific. (Evolution's just weaker)

I have a seperate thread for this kind of stuff.