Well, I am not going to provide/aruge each specific scientific evidence, but it is already recognized by major international organizations such as U.N if you ask me.

We are already suffering from global warming (New Orleans, for instance.) and all three major candidates in this election made global warming as one of major issues here.

One thing I dislike is that if we really work on something about global warming, ALL of nations need to do same thing. It is not fair to U.S to put regulations itself while China and India make even more pollutions. :/

Well, I am not going to provide/aruge each specific scientific evidence, but it is already recognized by major international organizations such as U.N if you ask me.

We are already suffering from global warming (New Orleans, for instance.) and all three major candidates in this election made global warming as one of major issues here.

One thing I dislike is that if we really work on something about global warming, ALL of nations need to do same thing. It is not fair to U.S to put regulations itself while China and India make even more pollutions. :/

TP,

One, I'm not a rightwinger. While I lean conservative, I have my own mind to use, thank you very flipping much.

Two, I have never (read NEVER, spelled N-E-V-E-R) stated that I refuse to believe it. I asked you for a legitimate source and told you FLAT OUT that I would do everything I could to keep the story alive IF you provided your hairball assertions. But apparently not only am I in on the vast rightwing conspiracy to bury the story, but so is every major search engine on the Internet, because THEY'RE not providing me with credible support, either. In other words, you're a bald faced liar who believes that ad hominem attacks amount to "proof".

Three, I have no difficulties with reading comprehension. If you have provided this proof, I have never seen it, nor, apparently, has anyone else.

I actually had hopes for having some good discussions with you, but apparently your intellectual ability is limited to personal attacks and name calling. Pity, because if your political position was actually borne out of SUBSTANCE, I think I would have enjoyed the banter.

The fact that global temperatures saw an increase over a certain period of time was proven, yes. You are right on that point.

The theory that the temperature increase was not cyclical, and more to the point, was man made, was not proven, and would seem to be undermined by events such as the warming on other planets in the solar system over the same time which cannot be attributed to human habitation.

How do you consider random name calling intelligence? Sorry, I don't get the connection. TP has offered little constructive to the conversation, and has, in fact, refused to support his own ridiculous assertions.

I am willing to bet that, SUV aside, my family and I leave less of an environmental impact than you do. I believe in taking care of the environment because it's good sense, not because of chicken little extremism that is highly questionable in its nature.

Wow, you taught me something I didn't know. So hurricanes didn't exist before the last century? Interesting.

Come on, honestly, you can do better than that.

If you read through the entire post, the only person who has made insults and non-intelligent remarks is that person.  However, that is typical from the left.

 

LOL, the U.N.  They have no credibility for anything.

 

New Orleans?  You really should take a look at history and see how many hurricanes have hit the Gulf.  Not only that, lets not forget the fact that New Orleans is under sea level. 

The things people believe....

 

 

LOL, the UN. You mean the same one that continues to steal money while asking for more? The UN is not a scientific community, it's a political one. And anything that spells "USA is wrong" is accepted as proof even if it was Cobra Commander the one giving the information.



And politics has nothing to do with these candidates? And here I thought Obama, Hillary and McCain were simply trying to get votes.



That is the main reason most people are not going for the global warming thing head first. How ironic that not only it is claimed that Global Warming is man made, but that the US is mostly responsible. I tire of being the good guy and always getting kicked in the growings because we are nice.

Liar. You have never offered even a shred of evidence. And I know you wont now, just some more childish taunts and lies.

Great! And I have a bridge in brooklyn to sell you! Like PT Barnum said. One born every minute.

*Brinks on some of comments.


Calm down guys.

I am not going to say that all people who drive SUVs should be burned in hell.

I just want to point out that the temperature record clearly shows that the current rise of the temperature is not a normal at all. We just put polar bears as threatened species because the ice on the north is melting. Do you really need more evidence for rising temperature?

On top of that, IPCC already declared that the cause of the global warming is most likely due to people' activities, and the majority of scientists agree that it is true. I don't know what other organization have more authority than IPCC on this subject, other than U.N itself which created IPCC a long time ago.

To people who dislike/distrust the U.N, I highly recommend you guys to search for what are the things U.N does. The 'political' part (which criticizes U.S.A) of the U.N is just 'part' of the U.N. The U.N does really a wide range of works, including quite a large volume of scientific researches which is not related to 'political' part of the U.N.

For New Orleans case, granted. I admit that this is still less than a theory which is not fully supported by proofs. But indeed we have more intense hurricanes each year, and the numbers are already published as evidence. I never said hurricanes did not exist before the global warming. (Come on, do not try to intendedly misinterpret my writing like that. You can do better than that. )

What actions/behaviours do you please Bush was unfairly condemned for?

If you're referring to the General Assembly, of course the third world speakers don't have many good things to say about America. While half of their populations are struggling to survive the western world are complaining about having to pay more to fill up their beautiful luxurious cars.

I was just curious how many, out of all of you here arguing on this topic (more of the global warming topic than the obama sucks topic), actually have taken a wide curriculum of science at an accredited university, or at least just plain understand the various principles behind science. I just implore anyone who doesn't truly understand science past "science is what the lab guys do to figure stuff out" to please stop having scientific debate. It's not constructive and for the most part many of the points are born from ignorance, not necessarily stupidity. I don't know who you people are, and most likely the majority of you will happen to hold advanced degrees in whatever the topic of choice is, but if any of you aren't 100% on exactly what science is and how it works, go read something somewhere and hopefully that can clarify things. If not ..I guess that just sucks.

How do you know? At best, you are looking at a few years out of 100 years. OUt of the billions the earth has been around? Simply put, you dont know, and making a statement of fact like that is clearly closeminded. The temperature has not risen in the last 10 years, and actually declined last year. Are we to extrapolate from that one year that we are headed for an ice age? Apparently from the "scientific" method in use by the global warming crowd we must. Yet that is akin to taking the temperature of an individual at one moment in time and saying that all humans must have that temperature to be normal.

What an elitist, bigoted and completely stupid arguement. I don't have to have a PhD to be able to think for myself.

wnmnkh:

What it clearly shows is that the global temp rose 1C in the last 100 years, but then lowered .75C in the last year. So whatever warming occured in the last century was mostly corrected in the last year.

Actually, your SUVs and thermostats are killing the planet. You know how much gas an SUV guzzles? Too much! It is a waste, no wonder there are now UN sanctions being placed on the car companies unless they comply with green regulations. If we dont start trying to save the environment, we can kiss any future our children might have good bye.

What an asshat. As someone who did in fact major in sciences and engineering I can say that any person who is capable of doing their own research and reading on the subject from a broad spectrum of perspectives, as many here have done, is capable of having an intelligent and considered opinion about it.

People like yourself on the other hand prefer to simply take an elitest attitude toward those who may have examined the same data (or, more likely, even more data) and draw a differing conclusion. Most truly thinking people do not bow down at the alter of the Gore but prefer to do their own thinking.

For those who buy in to the man-made global warming idea, how do you explain the corresponding temperature changes on other planets in our solar system? Do we have people there driving around in SUVs of which I am not aware?

Geologic and fossil evidence indicates clearly that the planet has gone through periods of warming and cooling in the past and is likely to do so in the future. Get over it and find something truly worthwhile upon which to spend your energy and dollars.

We are not looking in just a few years. In fact, at least more than a thousand of years. And we are clearly seeing definite temperature rise. The average temperature can be rise or fall in each year as you said, but in general, it is increasing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:2000_Year_Temperature_Comparison.png


A short term observation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Instrumental_Temperature_Record.png

I don't quite do not understand what are you saying about. You mean all of planets' temperature is increasing at same time?

For instance, I am not surprised the such extreme temperature change in Mars, Mercury and Plute, since they have little/no atmosphere. You know, they are different planets and I wonder how these could be counter example for the Earth case.


We all know there is warming period and cooling period (a.k.a Ice age.) And even thousand years of scale, we have a little warming period and little ice age. The problem is, the current rise of temperature is just beyond those previous changes.

Do you hear an echo in here? Like we're in some kinda chamber....





Conservativism hath spoken.

Then you don't understand much about the subject at all. We're talking relative temperatures here. Temperatures on planets with or without an atmosphere are directly related to solar radiation. We know that the sun's radiation levels go through cycles. The temperature changes on other planets near us have gone up at about the same rate over time as here on Earth. The only explanation for this is solar activity unless there are cities and SUVs on those planets.

Well then, where is the actual data that most of our planets' temperatures has been increased since 20th century? I'd like to see it. What I found was the table of data that solar energy has been increased, but not actual temperatures of other planets.

And before that, you should not say they are 'directly related' Because it is not true in some cases. For example, in Jupiter, Temperature changes are due to innate characteristics such as radioactivity.

Plus : And here is another thing for you. Yes. It is definitely true the Earth's temperature can be risen by stronger solar activities, but the problem is that at some point the rise of temperature should be stopped since the increase of solar energy is limited. But the temperature is still rising after all. You can find the conclusion that the effect of solar energy may explain the first century of temperature rising, but not the last half century's. Which means, if the solar energy is the one changing the temperature, it should be stopped and unchanged around 1950~1980, but it is not true as we see the numbers today.

Well, Republican nominee John Mccain has some fancy section in his website, carefully covering global warming issues.

http://www.johnmccain.com/climatechange/

Shhhhh. Dontcha know John McCain's a "rino" not an elephant? And "only those left of Nancy Pelosi consider John McCain a Conservative." It's common knowledge, really.