Guns Kill People

Hey, China got it right. They thought guns were dangerous and so they got rid of them. Now no one can say it was the gun makers who are responsible.

 

You know, I have always questioned the whole idea of carrying a knife of a certain size to be illegal. I think if I wanted to, I could kill someone with the small knife on a swiss army knife. Hell, I bet the swiss army could do it.

Yep. Slice an artery, and the sucker is dead before he takes 10 steps.

There have been plenty of studies to show that things are safer when law abiding people have guns than when only the criminals have them (which no law is going to stop). I would rather get shot than stabbed to death any day! People will kill each other with knives, shovels, hammers, etc. If some fool is coming at me with a knife, I want to be able to pull and Indianna Jones and shoot him.

Here in Indonesia we keep machetes under our beds instead of guns. lol. I keep bamboo stick with a metal spearhead for any gang members trying to break into my house. But I do wish I had a gun. A lot of news of people's throats being cut in Indonesia.

Very true. In the end, it is the absense of guns that embrazen the criminals. Tech was and is a Gun Free Zone. Clinch Valley College, not far from there is not. A year or so earlier, a gunman went on a rampage at that college. He was stopped before the body count grew. By another student with a legal gun.

I am with Jill - I would rather get shot than speared!

Sounds like the choice were all going to have come November

 

lol. I still love my spear. I made it myself you know? Now all I need to do is learn how to create some poisonous coating for the tip. more pain the better right? I mean for the aggressor.

It was video games that made that poor Chinese guy kill!

Here in the Swirling Epicenter we saw a great change happen a few years ago. The first week we lived here there were two carjackings and a home invasion within a mile or two of our house. There were drive-by shootings, gang shootouts and all manner of crimes happening around us. John Anderson was elected Sheriff and his first new act was the relaxing of requirements to obtain concealed weapons permits. The first month there was something like 3000 permits issued in the county. And almost overnight, the house raids, car jackings and drive bys came to a screeching halt. There were still a few random acts occasionally, but the drop off was dramatic and sudden. I understand that other counties have had similar results when carry permits were accessable to the public. There are other methods of home protection available, but nothing speaks louder than "Home Protected by Mossberg...or Smith and Wesson...or Ruger...or....."

  I know!

Yea, it would suck to be on the other end.

For the most part, criminals are not morons. They are going to mug an old lady before they tackle a burly man. Or go into a house they know has no weapons before they try one that may be packing. Stupid criminals usually do not live to regret their stupidity.

Actually, the spear is in the house I'm currently at where guns are prohibited, but in my other house located in Trawas (somewhere in the mountains), we have a stock of single shot rifles after being broken into and robbed 2 times. Mom also hired military personnel from Jakarta 'cos we suspect that the local police were in on the whole thing. NO MORE BREAK INS! So, yea guns are the best when it comes to protecting your house!

Guns don't die, people do.  I hate guns but I think that the constitution makes it our right to have them so I won't infringe on others rights, I just won't have one in my house.  Unless you count bb guns and my youngest is lobbying for pellet guns oh and paint ball guns.  But you know...not a "real" gun.  Definately water guns, I bet if that chinese dude got hit with the freezing cold super soaker he would have stopped stabbing people. 

So the other side of the coin, is how many more people than five would he have killed if he had a semi-automatic.  I think the body count would have went up considerably.  And if criminals can get guns even if they're illegal, why wasn't he packing anyway?

Yea, they do that in New York City here too.

Attacking a Police station? He would have been lucky to get 2. And as we have seen in other countries, getting guns that are illegal (and I am not talking America) is not a problem when you want to do it. This cretin was probably just an enraged psycho. And regardless of his mental stability, he had to be taken out. The lack of guns here resulted (probably) in additional deaths. And none were caused by a gun.

Say whattt? Seriously? Thats what we never see on tv I guess (i mean the news of course).

I've always found the idea that banning firearms somehow makes life safer from criminals and nut cases. It's laughable at best and moronically naive at worst.

The main reason the Chinese government doesn't allow gun ownership is that they know if the citizens were armed they wouldn't remain in power very long.

How did you hire military personnel? Wouldent that be very expensive?

Its not expensive really since we got some contacts in the military. They tell me they get only about ten thousand rupiahs as their military salary which is almost equal to US$ 1000 (rank is sergeant)along with rice and stuff which I forgot. Its worth it since theere were two robberies where they were armed with machetes and threatening to cut one of my maid's throat. Luckily my family and I was in Bali at that time. We used to have 4 military personnel at the house. One had to go back to Jakarta.

well whatever makes you safe. Wouldent the military care that some of there men are renting them selves out to people? I know you are just protecting your house, but what about other people how want some experince military people for more "shady" business?

lol, I really don't know where shady business is coming from. Everything from military has gone more secretive now since the president put some restrictions on military owned businesses. Indonesia's not all that bad. The people we hired were friends of ours and they got an ok from the higher ranking officers 'cos they told them that the family was in trouble (which we were). We were threatened by a phone company, extorted by police (keep asking for donations even though we already gave), and threatened by one of our relatives which is trying its best to break us and make us leave from the area. We've pretty much isolated ourselves from the villages. Not a good feeling there. I don't recall a conversation about Indonesia and shady businesses though? Thought we were talking about how guns can make us feel safer?

@Nequa: After getting some short nap I read your post again and I really gotta ask, why does it feel like your saying that only Indonesia holds shady businesses? Seriously man, that was not cool. My family and I did hire the local police at first to protect the house after the first break-in and thought that it would be a lot safer. We should have known not to trust the local police because when We (my family) took our little vacation and came back, we found that the crooks took everything and the cop couldn't answer to any of our questions. We fired him and my mom asked some of her friends to help her out. They agreed to it, and my mom said that she would pay them to compensate for the military salary lost. Nothing shady with this deal. Yea I'm done with explaining about that. Back to guns.

I did not say that only Indonesia has shady business, in America we have shady business going on. I was asking how you were able hire soliders to protect your house. You did not say untill now that they were friends of yours. Also I did not say you and your famly were involved in "shady" businees, I was asking if criminal organizations have ever hired soldiers for something illegal. You know that not every soldier bleeds his countrys colors. I am NOT saying that the hole Indonesin army is corrupt, but there are people how will be tempted to use their skills for cash. It happens in every countrys armys.