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Custom LASIK experiences

Custom LASIK experiences

A LASIK Diary Report

I finally bit the bullet and had custom LASIK done to both my eyes. The procedure was performed by Dr. D.C. Fiander of the Farmington Laser Eye Center.

It was not an easy decision to have this procedure done. I had spent a great deal of time researching the pros and cons on LASIK, PRK, Custom LASIK along with other methods to improve vision. 

Since I work in front of the computer all day, my eyes are very important to me so weighing the potential side effects from such a procedure was key in my decision. For the past near 20 years, I've been wearing contacts.  And glasses for years before that. My vision was bad. Very bad.  6.5 in my right eye and 5.25 in my left. I also have some astigmatism.  For those of you who aren't familiar with these numbers it means that without glasses and contacts that am disabled.  I couldn't function without glasses or contacts because my vision was so bad that I could only make out shapes.

For years I've hesitated in having this sort of thing done on my eyes. I didn't like glasses and contacts but I just don't like the idea of people messing with my eyes. And let's face it, as annoying as those things are, they are preferable to taking a chance on permanently damaging ones vision.

So I did a lot of research.  The Usenet news groups weren't helpful because the main group seems to be populated by a handful of kooks telling horror stories that just didn't match up with anything I'd read elsewhere (and it was only a couple of people who seemed to have some agenda).  There were numerous websites that gave clinical information on it and told me of the benefits and potential pitfalls of the procedure.

But I learned the most from talking to other people who had had the procedure and all were very happy with it. But still, I was just not willing to go in and have someone do things to my eyes. I was just too squeamish.

But then this summer I was at a wedding reception on the other side of the state when I got something in my eye while there.  I was wearing contacts so this was a big deal. Taking them out meant being basically blind.  That was my turning point. I travel a great deal and I'd reached a point where I simply didn't want to mess around with contacts and glasses knowing that if something unforseen happened that I could be left totally helpless. Whether it be a business trip or vacation or whatever, the idea that I could be left essentially disabled due to a lost contact or broken glasses became unacceptable. The logistics train of having to bring extra everything "just in case" exceeded my tolerance threshold.

So I made an appointment at Dr. Fiander's. He was someone that some friends had recommended and went for an evaluation. There are two types of LASIK available these days. The regular LASIK and Custom LASIK which uses Wavefront technology to have the changes be more customized to your eyes.

The Custom LASIK costs more and is somewhat more invasive, has a slightly longer recovery time.  But it has a higher statistical likelihood of giving good results.

My vision with glasses and contacts wasn't particularly good. In my case, I saw 20/40 with glasses and 20/60 with contacts.  So anything that equaled that or bettered it was an improvement.

The first step was the consultation.  I did that about a month ago. In that, they do a great deal of measurements on ones eye. It was like an optometrist appointment but much more intense. In hindsight, I wish I had asked more questions and received more information from this.  For instance, most LASIK centers offer free enhancements for up to a year.  I don't know if this is covered or not (and hopefully it won't be relevant to me either way).  The price range was on the high side compared to other places I went to but results were my overriding concern. Still, I would expect to be "taken care of" in the event that I do need further enhancements later on.

I also would have liked to find out things like my Corneal thickness, corneal steepness, pupil's in dim light,, tear break up, and other pupil measurements.  Essentially, for helping my research for myself after the consultation it would have been nice to be given a copy of the results so that I could assure myself that I was a good candidate for this procedure.  I am confident of Dr. Flander's view on this but it would have been handy to have this information for my own peace of mind.  I'll probably mention this to him on my next appointment as a suggestion.

Another suggestion I would have would have been to receive a print out on all the equipment. There are several different types of lasers and several different wavefront systems available. I recall hearing that they use the Excimer laser with LadarWave which would make it Alcon's "LADARVision CustomCornea". My right eye is at around 6.5 to 7 so it was at the very edge of what this system can correct (according to the FDA).  But I could be wrong on this (hence why it would have been handy to receive a bit more data on this).  Because it could also be the Technolas 217 Excimer laser with add-ons that supposedly give better results. I will ask more on this in follow-up exams.

So about a month after the consultation (October 22) I went in the Custom LASIK.

It took about 2 hours from the time I went in. Most of that time is in preparation.  They take close up topical pictures of your eye. This was not pleasant because with custom LASIK they have to take a picture of the entire eye ball which involves having a nurse holding your eye lids open just right (which took awhile to get right). 

Then they dilate your eyes. Once your eyes are dilated, they come in and put some numbing drops and use a special pen to draw dots on your eyes (very weird stuff).  A few minutes after that they took me in and had me lay down on this table where you rest your head under this machine.  It seems to be totally computerized -- complete with computerized voice telling you what % of the procedure is complete.

They started with my right eye and I won't lie, I experienced quite a bit of discomfort. About the same level as getting a shot for getting a cavity filled (not excruciating but not comfortable).  You hear the computer say "acquired" and then apparently a little blade comes and slices a very thin flap of your eye surface that is pealed back for the laser machine to do its thing.  For the next minute and a half, the laser does its thing while you stare at a red blinking light.  I didn't really feel pain but the longer it did its thing the more heat I could feel in my right eye. I did feel a distinct burning sensation when the right eye was being worked on.

A minute later they did the same to my left eye which was easier for some reason.  When they were done they put some anti-biotic drops in my eyes, some steroid compound drops and gave me some drugs to make me go to sleep and sent me home (my wife drove me home).

When I went home, I went to bad and slept for about 10 hours.  I got up the next day and I can instantly see the massive improvement.  It's not yet nearly as good as glasses or contacts but that is to be expected they say as my eye has to heal. Mostly it has to do with fluid in my eye and such that should go away over the coming weeks.

So am I glad I did this? The jury is out. It depends on how recovery goes. I expect in the next couple of days I'll have a pretty good idea. There's no doubt in my mind that my vision is far better than it was. But as the literature said, for the first 72 hours after the procedure I can expect halos and other light refraction issues which I am experiencing.  It is also hard to read close up things right now which I am told is normal and will work itself out in the next 72 hours.

Day 2: The glare has gotten considerably better. So I can read pretty well at this point.  My first concern that's come up though is that my right eye's vision is significantly less defined than my left.  I don't know if this is something I can expect to change or not.

Basically my right eye's vision is slightly garbled.  Imagine the letter S where a second letter S is superimposed on top of the first S but just a few milimeters above the lower S so that you have an almost double letter S going.   The left eye is completely sharp.

I've not found very good resources on the net yet to find out whether this is normal or not. After all, it's only been 48 hours. I won't worry too much for another week or so. But right now, while my left eye is basically perfect, my right isn't so great. Reading text and such, distance or near, is very indistinct.

Day 3: Halos and glare decrease. My eyes are fairly comfortable at this point. I'm quite pleased with my left eye but my right eye isn't quite as good. It seems to have a moderate case of monocular diplopia. I am hopeful that over the coming weeks as it heals that this will clear up.  I'm currently seeing about 20/30 in my left eye and 20/50 in my right eye. This is still better than contacts and once the "glow" effects from light and such dissipate over the coming weeks I expect to be quite happy. Though I am hopeful that my right eye will improve as it heals (I am left eye dominate fortunately).

Week 1: Still have some halos. The world is still vaguely like looking at the Sky Captain and the World of tomorrow. Left eye feels good. Right eye still feels a little tender. Vision in left eye is about 20/25. Vision in right eye has improved to probably 20/45 at this point. It's still noticeably less clear than my left eye. I'm not sure if that's due to it being less fully healed or what. Eyes do get fatigued quite easily. But overall, I'm still pretty happy about things. Not having to wear contacts or glasses is very nice. I expect the halos and overall glowy effect of everything to subside (basically with every light source big or small giving a glow effect it does make the world look a bit odd).

I'm having to put various drops into my eyes. Anti-biotics and steroid drops 4 times per day and about the same # of times for "refresher" (wettening) drops. The left eye needs it a lot less than my right eye.  I don't get star bursts which was one side effect I read others having on the net. So I'm happy about that.

Will keep reporting.

Week 3:  Night vision is still problematic because light sources give of a large halo (glow around the light source). My vision is about 20/30 overall at this point.  But it's 20/50 in my right eye. Overall, i don't see as well as I did with my glasses but I see better than I did with my contacts.

Eyes do get dry quite a bit but it's getting better.  There is still a significant haze in my vision largely due to the reflection of light off of surfaces.  I have not found that to have improved yet. 

Overall, I'm pleased with the results but I am thinking I may need them to tweak it.

2 Months:
I've become more pleased with the results over time.  I see about 20/20 out of my left and 20/25 out of my right. Overall I see 20/20 at this point.

One of the things that I've been told is that CUSTOM LASIK, as opposed to regular LASIK does have a longer recovery time. I wish this had been stressed to me at the time as I wouldn't have been as concerned with the results early on. Most of the articles I've read on-line deal with plain old LASIK.

I still experience dry eyes, something I didn't before. But it seems to get better by the day.  I am still getting a significant halo affect but that too is improving over time.  I think I'll have a better idea in another month or so.  Overall, I'm quite pleased with the results at this point.

6 Months later:
Very pleased with the results.  The halos are gone or at least so much subdued that I can't notice it.  My eyes do get dry sometimes so I carry some re-wetting drops with me. But it's pretty minor. 

We recently went on a trip to Disney and it was wonderful because I didn't have to lug around contact stuff or glasses (or both). And I can definitely see better than I did with glasses/contacts so I could definitely appreciate the difference.

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Reply #101 Top
Thanks so much for documenting your experience. I read it right before I received custom lasik and have re-read it afterwards just for reassurance. My procedure seemed a little different than yours (Mine was done in Virginia at the TLC), but so far so good. I didn't take the valium offered, which was a mistake. The procedure is uncomfortable and stressful and I came out with a pounding headache (stress-related, I'm sure) in addition to the normal discomfort of my eyes tearing-up uncontrollably for about 1 hour or so aftewards. My vision was also as bad as yours. The next day post-op visit had me testing at about 20/15 in one eye and 20/20 in the other. I am experiencing halos and definitely blurriness (like when your glasses really need to be cleaned). It's only been 48 hours out so I expect things to improve.

Your account has really helped me put into perspective the process of healing after the surgery, which is a comfort.
Reply #102 Top
(Mine was done in Virginia at the TLC),


Virginia here as well. But at Lasik PLus.
Reply #103 Top
I had my Custom Intra Laser surgery last Thursday (November 17). The surgery was done with Alcon in Texas. My right eye heals much better and faster than the left eye. The doctor might have pushed too hard when he did the measurements to my left eye and broke the blood vessels. Right now my left eye is still red and the vision is blurry. Plus I can only see about 20/40 with my left eye now. I do not think there is any infection since I do not feel any pain in the eye and my doctor told me it was ok during the one-day post-op.

Is this a normal recovery process? Will the blurry go away and my left eye vision continue to improve? I definitely do not want to go back for a retreatment.

Thanks for your help.

Ellie
Reply #104 Top
A question mainly for Draginol: Did the monocular diplopia you mentioned ever clear up? I'm three weeks post-op from Custom Lasik Wavefront w/monovision correction, and my distance eye has been experiencing diplopia since the surgery (I see a prominent "ghost" or "shadow" image about 25% below the normal image--it really screws up your ability to read roadsigns and recognize faces at a distance). The monovision took about 10 days to get used to, but the diplopia doesn't seem to be improving at all. BTW, thanks for the blog--very helpful to read your experience as well as those of others!
Reply #105 Top
Is this a normal recovery process? Will the blurry go away and my left eye vision continue to improve? I definitely do not want to go back for a retreatment.


It can be. I would talk to the doctor. The day after mine (and I am over 45 so have the macular degeneration - they told me of that before hand), I was seeing well, except close up.

I would check with the doc. My normal vision, except for the halo, was fine. My reading actually got a lot better as time went on. Today I can read a computer screen fine! Just not the fine print lawyers love! LOL
Reply #106 Top
Dr. Guy, thanks for the response. During the one-week post-op follow up, my doctor told me everything should be fine and I just need to be more patient. Now it's 10 days after the surgery. The blurry did go away and both of my eyes can see 20/20 now. I am so happy with my vision!
Reply #107 Top
I should have looked this place before I went having my lasik done.

I had mine done three days ago in Houston for my nearsightedness. It was they called wave front Custom lasik. I was in'n out within 2 hrs. There was not much pain involved. I also smell something was burning as well. It was blurry initially. I slept through most of the day other than getting up for dinner.

I woke up next morning seeing clear in my right eye but still blurry in my right eye. I drove to the doc to for the follow up w/o problem. An assistant measured me and declared 20/15 for both eyes. Then an associate of the doctor who performed the surgery walked in and said "you are doing great" w/o even checking me. He then beamed light into my both eyes and examined them. When I asked why I could see much better with my right eye. He responded by saying it was normal and it could take up to 3 months to stablize. But it hardly give me comfort. I still don't know how my eyes messured independently.

I went to work after the check up. Staring at the computer makes my eyes tired. My right eye (the good one) was working very hard to adjust to the left eye (the bad one) and that causes headache. I was also going through all kinds of eye drops like crazy.

When I woke up the second morning after the surgery. I could see things a little better than the day before. I can see things with my right eye at least as clear as before when I was in glasses, but my left eye still has ways to go before it can see as good as in glasses.

Today is the the third day after the surgery. I didn't feel much has changed from yesterday. My eyes are itching but tear drops alleviate that. I just hope my left eye can continue improve to a point that I won't feel big significant differences between my two eyes.

My eyes get tired easily if I looked at the computers or watch TV the last couple of days. I hope that will imporve. But the major concern right now is my left eye. Just hope it will eventually become as sharp as my right eye.

Reply #108 Top
My eyes get tired easily if I looked at the computers or watch TV the last couple of days. I hope that will imporve. But the major concern right now is my left eye. Just hope it will eventually become as sharp as my right eye.


My eyes were great, but it was a week before I could read my computer screen well. (I knew I needed reading glasses, so figured that was it). Now I can read a computer screen well, no reading glasses. But my eyes were never blurry. I figure I got about 20/40 at this point. Since I got the lifetime guarantee, I will go back if they deteriorate further than that.

I popped over here to tell Brad to check out the lastest Article on CNN. it is a pretty good one!

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Reply #109 Top
Hi,

I have -1.5 in my left eye and -1.75 in my right eye with slight astimatism only in my right eye. I have been wearing correction lens for only about 5 months. I never had glasses before for the first 27 years of my life.

My question is "Is it too early for me to consider a Custom Lasik procedure?". "Should I wait for more time for my prescription to stabilize before I go in for the procedure?".

I did the free consultation at the Lasik Vision institute in Denver, and they are charging $1699 per eye for lifetime Assurance and $1399 per eye for 1-Year Assurance? Are there any cheaper places out there?

Thanks for the advice in advance.
Reply #110 Top
Dr. Guy, you mentioned taking out an MSA to cover the cost. What is an MSA? and are there other alternatives? Other than an MSA, is there a better cost/benefit solution to cover the cost?; not that getting the procedure for 45% off isn't bad.
Reply #111 Top
I had Custom Lasik done on Thursday January 26, 2006. I am just NOW at the stage where I know that the results are going to be fantastic. My problem was that I am over 40 and a -8 with astigmatism in my right eye and not much better in my left. Prior to the procedure, the Dr. temporarily plugged my lower tear ducts, because my eyes are slightly dry. However, I was totally unprepared for the length of the recovery. Last week, I went back for the third time since my surgery and the Dr. plugged up my upper tear ducts temporarily. He said my eyes were still quite swollen and as soon as the swelling went down, my vision would improve dramatically. The next daywith the new plugs in place, I could see much better. Everyday is better. I think I'm at about 85% recovered now and I am so excited to see without aid! I also had mono-vision done in my left eye which is basically an undercorrection in your non-dominant eye that puts off the need for reading glasses for up to 5 years. By then (probabaly within 1 1/2) they will have far-sightedness correction down to an art. I only wish I had known how long it would take for the recovery - but everyone is different and recovers differently. Also, I wish I had never seen a procedure being done, because it looks much worse than it was. The worst part was the SMELL....but my doc was cool and counted me down - r. eye 55 seconds, l eye 35 seconds. The valium helped too! I had to be out of my contacts and in glasses for almost three months until my eyes stabilized - but I am pretty sure it is going to be worth it! Check your insurance too. My total cost for Custom was about $2700.
Reply #112 Top
I had Custom Lasik done on Thursday January 26, 2006. I am just NOW at the stage where I know that the results are going to be fantastic. My problem was that I am over 40 and a -8 with astigmatism in my right eye and not much better in my left. Prior to the procedure, the Dr. temporarily plugged my lower tear ducts, because my eyes are slightly dry. However, I was totally unprepared for the length of the recovery. Last week, I went back for the third time since my surgery and the Dr. plugged up my upper tear ducts temporarily. He said my eyes were still quite swollen and as soon as the swelling went down, my vision would improve dramatically. The next daywith the new plugs in place, I could see much better. Everyday is better. I think I'm at about 85% recovered now and I am so excited to see without aid! I also had mono-vision done in my left eye which is basically an undercorrection in your non-dominant eye that puts off the need for reading glasses for up to 5 years. By then (probabaly within 1 1/2) they will have far-sightedness correction down to an art. I only wish I had known how long it would take for the recovery - but everyone is different and recovers differently. Also, I wish I had never seen a procedure being done, because it looks much worse than it was. The worst part was the SMELL....but my doc was cool and counted me down - r. eye 55 seconds, l eye 35 seconds. The valium helped too! I had to be out of my contacts and in glasses for almost three months until my eyes stabilized - but I am pretty sure it is going to be worth it! Check your insurance too. My total cost for Custom was about $2700.
Reply #113 Top
I had Custom Lasik done on Thursday January 26, 2006. I am just NOW at the stage where I know that the results are going to be fantastic. My problem was that I am over 40 and a -8 with astigmatism in my right eye and not much better in my left. Prior to the procedure, the Dr. temporarily plugged my lower tear ducts, because my eyes are slightly dry. However, I was totally unprepared for the length of the recovery. Last week, I went back for the third time since my surgery and the Dr. plugged up my upper tear ducts temporarily. He said my eyes were still quite swollen and as soon as the swelling went down, my vision would improve dramatically. The next daywith the new plugs in place, I could see much better. Everyday is better. I think I'm at about 85% recovered now and I am so excited to see without aid! I also had mono-vision done in my left eye which is basically an undercorrection in your non-dominant eye that puts off the need for reading glasses for up to 5 years. By then (probabaly within 1 1/2) they will have far-sightedness correction down to an art. I only wish I had known how long it would take for the recovery - but everyone is different and recovers differently. Also, I wish I had never seen a procedure being done, because it looks much worse than it was. The worst part was the SMELL....but my doc was cool and counted me down - r. eye 55 seconds, l eye 35 seconds. The valium helped too! I had to be out of my contacts and in glasses for almost three months until my eyes stabilized - but I am pretty sure it is going to be worth it! Check your insurance too. My total cost for Custom was about $2700.
Reply #115 Top
I had my Custom Lasik done on January 27. Immediately after surgery, I could see the whole chart very clearly. The next day, the doc advised my vision was 20/30 and I had some very minor ghosting. It stayed the same for the 1 week, and I go back for the 1 month next Wednesday. I have to say I'm pretty happy with the results, other than the unnerving periodic blurriness that is a symptom of recovery. 2 days ago, my eyes were as crisp and clear as they've been since surgery. Yesterday, not so much. This board has really helped me to relax regarding the healing process, so thanks everyone for your contributions. One thing I have definitely noticed is that I can see much better outdoors than indoors, which probably has something to do with light levels. I agree... the one thing the doc (a great doc btw) did not warn me about was the smell! Otherwise, everything went exactly as he described it. The left eye is slightly worse than the right eye when indoors. Also, I still have minor halos and starbursting... which oddly seems to be car-dependant. Does anyone know if the outdoor vision is ultimately what I can expect my vision to stabilize at? Thanks again to all who have contributed.
Reply #116 Top
I am researching the custom wavefront - the newest one - today I go to pick up my first bifocals - and I am not happy about it. I am 49 and have worn glasses since I was 11 (or contacts) but now I also have presbyopia. I am negative 5 in one eye and negative 4.75 in the other - and have astigmatism in both eyes - more so in one than the other - hence needing to wait for computer mapping of the eyeball to be available. I am thinking that the surgery in both eyes would be great - then just using reading glasses to supplement the small print. My glasses - were close to 500 dollars - and that was mostly lens cost not the frames. Adding that up makes the cost of lasik not seem so bad. I know the cost will be higher in my geograhic area due to far fewer doctors doing the surgery here. Then my daughter age 22 wears negative 9 and is now saying her vision is getting blurred - so she also may consider surgery in a few years. Any thoughts?
Reply #117 Top
Great posts! I'm at 4 1/2 weeks after my Custom Wavefront Lasik. The procedure itself? Quick and easy, painless, pretty much exactly as described in the various clinics' literature. However, until reading this board, I was concerned about what I perceived as the 'slowness' of my recovery. The area of recovery seems to be something generally glossed over in the same aforementioned literature, with timeframes trending towards short. I can now 'see' that expecting all of the visual artifacts (rainbows and halos, especially around streetlights and halogen lamps) to be gone, dry eyes to be cleared up and my vision to be completely stable by this point was, quite simply, pushing it. Clearly, if there is any lesson to take post operatively, it is patience, patience, and more patience. Knowing this now, indeed, I'd recommend the procedure unreservedly!
Reply #118 Top
lasik plus, paramus, nj - i went last week May 13th for my evaluation and am having the procedure done on May 20. the total for my procedure is $3400. i am having the cutom wavefront. i hope this helps you OC IN NJ.
Reply #119 Top
I am very greatful to the writter of this article. I just had my procedure done a few days ago and was freaking out until I found this article.
Just wanted to say thanks for the info.
Reply #120 Top
I am very greatful to the writter of this article. I just had my procedure done a few days ago and was freaking out until I found this article.
Just wanted to say thanks for the info.


Welcome to the world of 2 eyes.
Reply #121 Top
Thank you for this article. I had my eyes done 5 days ago and am very frustrated at this point. When I went in the day after I was only seeing at 80%. The doctor said this was normal from where I had come from. My vision was 20/800 plus bad astigmatisms. I kept hearing about people that could see 20/20 the next day and was very discouraged that the surgery was not as successful as I had hoped it would be. This article has helped me reallize that it could be a 6 month process. I was not prepared for this at all but I do feel better.
Reply #122 Top
So its been 3 months since my custom lasik procedure. I can see very clear.

However computer screens dry out my eyes. There is alot of glowing around light and white text on black background? Does this go away with time? Can this be corrected?

I love seeing 20/20 but I am alittle bit nervous about the glowing since I am a computer professional. Anyways I appreciate the input, and Ill comment later to see if I just need to wait longer
Reply #123 Top

So its been 3 months since my custom lasik procedure. I can see very clear.

However computer screens dry out my eyes. There is alot of glowing around light and white text on black background? Does this go away with time? Can this be corrected?

I love seeing 20/20 but I am alittle bit nervous about the glowing since I am a computer professional. Anyways I appreciate the input, and Ill comment later to see if I just need to wait longer

The dry eyes gets better over time. The glowing from light sources goes away completely but takes about 6 months.

Reply #124 Top
Draginol Thanks for the support, Ill keep you all updated about the glowing and the dryiness.

-Nate
Reply #125 Top
I had customvue lasik 5 days ago. I was beginning to get a little worried until I found this article. Thanks!! I have been having slight blurriness, especially at night when my eyes get tired. The day after surgery I was seeing 20/16 but the crispness of my sight seems to come and go. There are times that I see perfectly, then a couple of hours later my sight can be blurry. Oh well! I can definately say that overall I am very please with my results. I was legally blind before, and now I can see without glasses. After reading all of these comments, I finally realize that it could take a few months for my sight to become completely perfect. Something that the doctors don't really inform you of. I paid $2183 for both eyes at the Clear Sight Center in OKC, OK with Dr. Wilson. As I said before, I had the customvue. I highly recommend Dr. Wilson to everyone. He is nationally recognized as one of the best Lasik surgeons in the country and has currently performed over 30,000 procedures.