There are several possibilities here:

1. Whatever genetic setup causes a human being to be straight and patient also causes or appears in tandem with a genetic setup that causes a longer life.

2. Marriage causes people to live longer.

3. A combination of the two.

Did anybody do any studies about how long people married in a gay marriage live?

 

There can be even more than those options,

Perhaps weak sickly people are, in general, ugly so its actually 'if you are likely to die earlier you are less likely to get married'.

Or it could still be that marriage helps people to live longer which is one reason for the early deaths of gay people.  

They are impossible questions to answer in the same way as 'does being gay lead to early death' is impossible to answer as there are so many other options and it is impossible (well very very hard) to tell which is correct.  Does the gay lifestyle itself lead to early death or is it the reaction from society?

My list wasn't exhaustive.

But obviously weak people are less likely to marry. People select mating partners according to how likely they are to have good genes.

 

No, there is a 4th - they dont live longer, it just seems that way.

"Jewish women don't believe in sex after marriage."

 

Yes, studies have been done in the countries where homsexuals have been allowed to marry. Being married doesn't add to their longevity...and that's becasue homosexuality is inherently unnatural and thus a dangerous and unhealthy practice. Besides that, the fact that they "marry" doesn't necessarily mean they practice fidelity, in fact, most don't.

The messenger doesn't change the facts....

The method used to determine the facts don't change the facts....

What we are still left with are the facts....and they are that the median age of death for homosexual men who did not have AIDS is 42! for those with AIDS it's 39......

It also doesn't change the fact that wise goverment will always legislate morality that preserves them to 75 or 80.

 

That's silly. Homosexual marriage has only been legal in a few countries for a few years. The "studies" you refer to cannot have been done.

 

Yes, it does. A faulty method leads to faulty facts.

 

I think I found one of the "studies" Lula refers to:

http://famguardian.org/Subjects/SexualImmorality/Homosexuality/HomosexualsHellbound.htm

It's funny. Apparently some religious people think that we are all stupid.

The "study":

Sounds good, doesn't it?

Now, let's look at the numbers. Note that a "median" is the dividing number in the middle of samples.



Note that "married men" is a group aged 30 (or at least 20) and older. If a random group of people, married or unmarried, were sampled and all individuals younger than 30 were removed, we would end up with a high median for age of death.



This is the same group as above with group individuals younger than 30 included. Median age of death is lowered to 57, as would be predicted for a random group of men with no young individuals removed.



Like the first group this result is typical for any random group with young members removed.



This is not surprising as the sample was taken from homosexual journals that do not publish obituaries for old people. (Readers of these magazines are young, as are people who publish obituaries for loved ones in them.)

The low age of death (median) is typical for a random group of which all older individuals have been removed.

A very funny statistic given that gays are more often victims of violent crimes committed by homophobes than straight people are.

After reading through a Web site that condemns homosexuals for what they are, even admits that they are more often targeted for murder than straight people, and uses bad math to spread hatred to stupid people (maybe including stupid homosexuals), I cannot say I am surprised!


Summary for median ages of death:

Married men (or ANY group with individuals below age of 30 removed): 75

Unmarried men (or the same group including young individuals): 57

Married women (like married men): 79

Unmarried homosexuals published in magazine (or ANY group with older individuals removed): 42

I guess the point is that no member of a group that only includes 30 and older can die at the age of 25. And no member of a group that only includes 60 and younger can die with 75.

 

It seems you may have as some odf the numbers are the same....the study was published in1994 and called the Omega Study Results....evidently it went all the way back to scientific literature from 1858.  That study confirmed relatively the same as did the one from Family Research Institute.

Did the site have any info on the longevity of lesbians? According to the Omega study, they don't do much better...median age of death is 44 and exhibit high rates of violent death and cancer as compared to other women in general.

 The bottom line from the study is that all heterosexual subgroups, single or married, live far longer than their homosexual counterparts.

 

 

Yeah, wouldn't surprise me. If you take any random group of people and remove the oldest 20 or 30 years, you get a low median age of death.

You'd be surprised by how few older homosexuals have come out and let gay magazines publish obituaries for them.

So the "study" shows us that a random group of people with no old individuals has a lower median age of death than a random group of people with old individuals. And another random group of people with no young people has a higher median age of death.

 

Median age of death of random groups:

Married men (or ANY group with individuals below age of 30 removed): 75

1. No individuals below age of 25: 75

2. Same group including the younger individuals: 57

3. Same group with no individuals above age of 60: 42.

They are your married men, unmarried men, and gay men as sampled by the "study".

 

The exact cut-off ages can be determined mathematically. But I am pretty sure that's the explanation. It is pretty obvious.

 

And anyway even if there is a reduction (something this study in no way shape of form can prove) it doesn't mean that its the homosexual lifestyle that alters the lifespan.

As mentioned before a hormone difference in the womb is a possibility for what makes 'gay people gay'.  It could also lead to other differences, if a female feotus is exposed to too much testronone it could 'turn them' but it could also induce other, life span reducing, changes.

It really is impossible to prove the gay lifestyle reduces lifespan without taking a group of people who want to live that life and preventing them from doing so all the while preventing them from knowing they want to live a life they can't.

I suppose you could compare lives of married (to a woman) homosexuals to married (to another man) homosexuals.

However, homosexual marriage is too stigmatised to attract normal (homosexual) people. Currently it seems to be more something to do for fanatics.

Once gay marriage is completely normal and accepted by society we can find out if straight marriage is really better for a long life than gay marriage.

 

But even that doesn't take into any effect that marrying somebody of the 'wrong' gender would have. 

Perhaps there is a cost for a homosexual man marrying a woman?

If you find true 100% bi-sexual men and compare those who married women to those who married men......

Who needs to know?

Perhaps I am not religious enough to be interested in other men's sex lives.

 

Exactly.

 

BASMAS POSTS:

The reason for a shortened life span and cost is the unhealthy, unnatural sexual practice itself...the body parts don't fit and the only life that comes from same-sex sex is bacteriological.  

Leauki,

Based upon the civilizing effect and good that flows from traditional marraige, homosexual activists argued that if they were given the same right, they would live longer, stay together and be happier.

Back in 2001, after decriminalizing drug use, legalized brothels, permitted doctors to euthanize their patients, and allowed one of its senators to champion the movement of pedophilia, the Netherlands legalized the novelty of homosexual "marriage".

Homosexual marriage is legal in Massachusetts...some of the first homosexuals to get married are already divorced, fighting over visiting rights, etc.

The facts and figures are coming in....it isn't good. Why did the presence of a long term partner have no positive or actually shorten the life span of homosexuals? The best we can do is speculate with facts as we know them to be and that is that even "married" homosexuals lack fidelty and with infidelity comes stress, unhappiness, depression, suicide, as well as the chances of disease is greater.

Other studies show that coupled homosexuals tend to engage in more risky, unprotected sexual activity than those without a steady partner.

Proved where and when?  Again, just beacause (or even if) same sex couples have reduced life span in no proves that it is the sexual activity that causes that reduction.  Have the studies looked at couple that practice anal sex against those that don't?

 

and?  Are there no hetrosexual marrigages from eight years ago that are also splitting up?

 

From where?  Are they of the 'quality' that you posted before?

LW POSTS:

By way of anti-discrimination based upon sexual orientation laws, same sex health benefits, domestic partnership laws and civil unions of which California has all inplace, name one marriage entitlement that they don't already have...other than the name of "marriage".

Please enlighten us to the difference between homosexual rights and the rights of the rest of us? Under the Constitutions we all have the same rights as human beings. They are citizens, they are human beings, they get the same rights as the rest of us...no more, no less.

What you and they are asking for is "special rights"..... but how absurd is it for society to treat those who voluntarily adopt an unnatural sexual option as if they were clearly defined from birth as members of an ethnic group are after having introduced us all to fatal diseases through their unsanitary doings?