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The "Change" Has Begun

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The "Change" Has Begun

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Change.  Obama's mantra these last few months.    But nobody really knows what this change is all about.  His picking of his VP and that of his cabinet so far hasn't brought about any change that I'm aware of.  So where's the change? 

The military has been warned.  Change is coming.  The IRS and accountants have been warned.  Change is coming.  But nobody knows exactly what this change entails. 

So we're all waiting for change.  Will it be good?  Will it be a disaster?  Well I think I found something that definitely shows change when it comes to Obama.  Finally, and I wouldn't classify it as good. 

Many know that Billy Graham, an evangelist like no other, has been the religious advisor to the Presidents.  No matter the denomination or the political party Billy was on hand to pray with and advise spiritually the President of the United States for what seems like forever.  He's outlived most of the Presidents he's advised over the years. 

This will change with the current President-Elect.  Obama is seeking guidance from the Episcopal Church's first openly Homosexual Bishop, Gene Robinson. 

The Times of London has reported that Obama has sought Robinson's advice three times during his campaign.  Robinson's ordination has caused a deep rift in the Anglican community and is something that is still being hotly debated even now. 

One of the talking points of these meetings was Obama's comment to Robinson that the election was a "religious experience."   Hmmmmm I wonder what he means by that?  A religious experience?  (files away in brain)

So yes, this is a change.  Graham, a very biblical preacher, who teaches nothing but what is in the scriptures has been replaced by a Homosexual Bishop which is anything but biblical.  This is definitely change. 

Obama is trying very hard to pass off that he is a Christian, but it  also seems that he is working very hard to undermine it instead. 

For a Christian who truly believes it's all about Jesus and his revealed word to mankind, Obama is an oxymoron. 

Continuing to pray for Obama. 

 

 

 

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Reply #26 from JoeUser Forums Top

Obama's change is he changed is mind from changing anything to changing nothing or was it changing it back to the Clinton Admin?
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k5  

ya, the only changes I've seen yet are not really changes at all.  So can that be considerd a change?  O:)

The way the MSM is treating Obama he might as well be president. Never have I seen such a lust to assume an office before,
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I know it!  Today I got a News Brief saying Obama is holding another press conference.  What is that all about?  I mean who is the President around here right now?  I've never seen anything like this.  He can't wait to get Bush out of his office.  Good Grief, it's only polite to sit back and not look so anxious as the man who held office for the last 8 years finishes up what he needs to do. 

I keep praying this does NOT turn into a "be careful what you wish for, you just might get what you asked for" situation.
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I believe a nation always gets what it deserves.  We're no exception. 

I'm reading a book right now called "Tourtured For Christ" and it's about a guy named RIchard Wurmbrand who lived in Romania being born there in 1909.  This book, a classic, written in 1967 outlines what happened to Romania once Communist Russia got ahold of them.  Pretty scary and I'm starting to see we're really not that far away from this as a reality here.  Socialism is just but a step in the right direction. 

Reply #27 from JoeUser Forums Top

Can we wait until the guy is sworn in first, please?

~Zoo
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Did Obama wait until he was elected before he changed the presidential seal on his plane?

 

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Reply #28 from JoeUser Forums Top

CHARLES

Last I check he was voted in to be President and while he may not be the President just yet, everything he does today will reflect on him afetr Jan 20th.
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Well that depends...if what he does reflects well upon him then the MSM will see that he gets all due credit....if on the other hand, it doesn't, them the MSM will repress it or blame it on the Republicans or Bush or both.

Reply #29 from JoeUser Forums Top

And yet, here we are rambling on about appointments, advisors, and various other structural measures that are indicative but not substantial in the arguement about change.
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C'mon Kurtin!

I can tell just from his list so far of appointees that he's planning on having the most radical pro-abortion administration of all time.

The womb is going to be a more dangerous then ever place to be with people like Emanuel, Bill Richardson, Tom Daschle, Janet natopitiano, Ellen Moran, and Hillary Clinton.

 

Reply #30 from JoeUser Forums Top

What you seem to fail to notice is that a man who claimed we needed change from the same old politics is chosing people who have already been in Gov't positions before.
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Good observation, CHarlesCS.

Why not give a new person a chance to prove themselves with fresh new ideas and less corruption just like the American people chose to give the new guy a chance to run the country?
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Because there aren't any new far left liberals with fresh ideas out there....Obama's bringing back the Clintonistas for "experience" and "change"!

Reply #31 from JoeUser Forums Top

KURTIN POSTS:

That nonsense you refer to from the Clinton era also produced record low unemployment rates and a surplus, so please explain to me how a "going back" could possibly hurt the struggling America at present.
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Did you forget that Clinton went centrist after he got into office or that he had Republican congress as majority?

While Obama is taking on some of Clinton's crowd and expected to move centrist in some areas, he has Pelosi, Reid, Waxmen, and Maxine Waters to contend with...are they your kind of liberal people?

 

Reply #32 from JoeUser Forums Top

Obama is seeking guidance from the Episcopal Church's first openly Homosexual Bishop, Gene Robinson.

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Seems to me like a "progressive" appointment, i.e. done so that liberals perceive change. Never mind his sexuality, I do not see him as particularly competent; at least not more so than any other random bishop.

I didn't know that Billy Graham was religious adviser to Presidents, but I do think he is as good an adviser as the President could get.

 

Reply #33 from JoeUser Forums Top

Seems to me like a "progressive" appointment,
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Exactly....but progressing towards what?

Reply #34 from JoeUser Forums Top

Exactly....but progressing towards what?

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You misunderstood me. I put "progressive" in quotes. I don't expect any progress into any direction from Obama.

He is an unremarkable politician with no achievements whatsoever. His sole differentiation is his skin colour.

Gene Robinson, from what I have read, is also entirely unremarkable. His sexual orientation is the only differentiator between him and hundreds of other boring bishops.

The election and this appointment seem to be very much about a perception of change, not actual change.

Thank G-d.

 

Reply #35 from JoeUser Forums Top

Exactly....but progressing towards what?

You misunderstood me. I put "progressive" in quotes. I don't expect any progress into any direction from Obama.

He is an unremarkable politician with no achievements whatsoever. His sole differentiation is his skin colour.

Gene Robinson, from what I have read, is also entirely unremarkable. His sexual orientation is the only differentiator between him and hundreds of other boring bishops.

The election and this appointment seem to be very much about a perception of change, not actual change.

Thank G-d.
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I understand your point, but I thought your using the word "progressive" fit. It has nothing to do with his lack of acheivements or skin color...he's not a new kind of politician, that's for sure. Because Obama is first and foremost a typical radical left wing liberal Democrat on economics, the environment, centralizing public health, appointing judges, favoring abortion and sodomy, progress is about advancing these. In this regard, ObamaLand will bring "change" all right...but not "new change". It will be a pick up of FDRoosevelt's New Deal "entitlement" policies, and moving those (progress) into Socialism by way of unions which will regulate the work force.  

Of Obama is able to make good on all his campaign promises regarding abortion and sodomy, Obamaland's progression will be towards the sewer and not the stars and to borrow Judge Bork's book title, slouching towards Gommorrah.  

Reply #36 from JoeUser Forums Top

Gene Robinson, from what I have read, is also entirely unremarkable. His sexual orientation is the only differentiator between him and hundreds of other boring bishops.

The election and this appointment seem to be very much about a perception of change, not actual change.
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I think so too.  The only change is that we have a black man as President.  At least that's it so far.  That and he's gone to this Gene Robinson instead of a mainstream Pastor like all the Presidents before him.  I think we're getting into very dangerous territory when we are putting people in positions based on emotion or the externals instead of ability and the internals. 

I read in today's paper about the India Terrorist Situation.  Big article in our paper this morning.  In the article there was mention that President-elect Obama has been informed of all the happenings over there.  Not one word about Bush. 

I've never seen anything like this.  The old folks are saying the same.  In none of their years have they seen such an agressive President-elect.  Usually you hear very little if anything before the inauguration from or about the newly elected President to be. 

 

Reply #37 from JoeUser Forums Top

I read in today's paper about the India Terrorist Situation.

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It's a terrible tragedy. I just hope that India is wise enough to act appropriately and not just take it like Spain did.

I am convinced, btw, that India will do the right thing. India is not stupid and wants to be a world power. And they don't have whining liberals complaining that it is all their own fault if other people kill children for fun.

India bought lots of weapons and military expertise from Israel in the last few years. And in the last few years India and the US came closer too. The prime minister is a Sikh. The Sikh know what they are doing and are willing to fight. India's last president also lead them the way (and he was a Muslim), building up the space program, missile programs, and military co-operation with Israel.

India is ready.

If the USA and Britain become unable to act, hopefully India will show the arrogant British and the liberal Americans what can be done!

 

Reply #38 from JoeUser Forums Top

India is ready.

If the USA and Britain become unable to act, hopefully India will show the arrogant British and the liberal Americans what can be done!
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I don't know much about India and their politics but I'm guessing I'm about to find out. 

I don't believe there is anyone in the world who has been unaffected by the Muslim Terror that has now been agressively waged with more ferocity than ever.