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Over-sleeping

Over-sleeping

Can anybody tell me how can I control my sleeping time?

Yesterday I went to bed at 11 pm. This morning I woke up in 3 pm...

This is happening almost every day, except when I must go to school. But then, when I return home from school (2 pm), I'm having a lunch (2-2:30) and then I go to sleep and I sleep till 10 pm. Once again, I'm sleeping too much.

My father is just the same...

Can someone tell me what the f**k is happening with me? Is this some kind of a disease or it's just in the genes lol?

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Reply #26 Top

For those interested in sleep deprivation; http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/display/article/10168/54471
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OMG :omg:

 

Great news everybody!!!

Yesterday I went to bed at 5 am and I'm awake now, that is 1:30 pm.

I'm guessing this is an improvement.  Or?

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If you drink almost every night, you're going to end up in a constant state of fatigue or drowsiness.
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I drink only for the weekends and some special occasions (mostly birthdays)

 

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Part of your tiredness and over sleeping could be just from your age. When i was your age I slept 12 hours at a time when i could. I think with all that your body is going through it naturally wants more rest. I think the first response was dead on too, that your body wants what it keeps getting. Eating habits and sleeping habits seem to have this in common.

Another thing you might consider is that you have sleep apnea. This is when you actually stop brething while you sleep. Your body gasps and you start brething again. You don't remember waking up, but this can occur something like 60 times and hour. You think you slept a whole night but really wake up tired since your  body was constatny woken up, you also don't really ever get to achieve REM sleep. You would have to go to a doctor and be tested for a real diagnosis.

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Part of your tiredness and over sleeping could be just from your age. When i was your age I slept 12 hours at a time when i could. I think with all that your body is going through it naturally wants more rest. I think the first response was dead on too, that your body wants what it keeps getting. Eating habits and sleeping habits seem to have this in common.

Another thing you might consider is that you have sleep apnea. This is when you actually stop brething while you sleep. Your body gasps and you start brething again. You don't remember waking up, but this can occur something like 60 times and hour. You think you slept a whole night but really wake up tired since your body was constatny woken up, you also don't really ever get to achieve REM sleep. You would have to go to a doctor and be tested for a real diagnosis.
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I'm sure I have to go to a doctor. I don't have a clue what is happening to me, some phase or something else that I don't want to mention.

Reply #30 Top

Are you in both good mental and physical health?

Do you fulfill your daily requirements for minerals and vitamins?

 

There are strong connections that being in good health has many positive effects on the human sleep cycle, the most prominent being that if in good health you require less sleep. However being in a state of declining health in either physical or mental or both will have negative effects on the human body. One of the more prominent ways is you will begin to develop a inconsistent sleep pattern or generally start to require more sleep.

 

Alcohol in my guess is most likely not your problem, however you have to remember that Alcohol effects each person completely different than the next. The only common side effect people share is that the body treats Alcohol as a poison and thus creates the buzz or drunkenness when you go overboard on your consumption.

 

It also could be effects of the mental state you might be going through with school or god knows what. Is their anything predominantly negative on your mind or in your thoughts on a regular or daily basis?

 

The best advice I can give is 1.) see a doctor 2.) exercise regularly, eat healthy, and meditate or perform some action to clear your mind before going to sleep and you should have no problem fixing your sleeping patterns.

 

 

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I would recommend exercise. Not just a set of press-ups or something, find something that will keep your working for a good couple of hours. Afterwards, go home, maybe have a quick snack, but go to bed early. You will have a fantastic night's sleep and probably wake up at a sensible time.

The other thing you can do is to only draw one of your curtains, so that the light wakes you up in the morning.

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Are you in both good mental and physical health?

Do you fulfill your daily requirements for minerals and vitamins?
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Yep. Eating 3 times a day, lots of water and juice.

I am working out almost every day, but not excessively, I stop as soon as I get tiired.

About mental activities, I'm not sure if walking down the street with my dog counts. It's incredibly relaxing though!!

Reply #33 Top

Quoting Luckmann, reply 15
A week I spent without sleeping, in the final phases I started to have hearing hallucinations, but more unnerving, I started to have blackouts like that. I could be walking around in a room or sitting on the couch just to "wake up" minutes or hours later in a completely different part of the house.
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I did the same thing once, except it was during the last week of classes the last semester of my sophomore year. It was really unnerving to all of a sudden find myself looking at a completed physics problem that I didn't even remember starting; what was even more unnerving was that my solutions to the problems I didn't remember doing were perfect.

Quoting Luckmann, reply 19
At one point during the experiment/record attempt, he even initiated a conversation with a street sign - and at another, had the delusion that he was Paul Lowe, winning the Rose Bowl.
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During my aforementioned sleepless week a friend of mine found me in the dorm hallway yelling at an air vent for making burbling noises at me. She told me afterwards that it appeared as if I was under the impression that it was contesting my claims.

 

More on topic, though, I too can easily sleep for 12 hours straight. I've done comprehensive experiments with alarm clocks, too, and I've found that they don't work for me. At one point I set up 5 separate alarm clocks all around my room, set to go off at different intervals and very loud (one of the alarms was my computer, which was so loud that I had to stop using it because my neighbors complained). It worked for a week or two but eventually I'd just turn them all off or unplug them and go back to bed, and I'd wake up hours later with no recollection of doing so.

But what I've found does work is to have a human being wake me up. Sometimes I'd have people call me but they'd always have orders to call me multiple times. The best, though, is to have somebody come into your room and force you to get up. A girlfriend works best if at all possible :P

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But what I've found does work is to have a human being wake me up. Sometimes I'd have people call me but they'd always have orders to call me multiple times.
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Hmmm... Interesting, but people will have to spend fortune for waking me up

The best, though, is to have somebody come into your room and force you to get up. A girlfriend works best if at all possible
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And yes, this is the best. Usually my mom wakes me up for school.

Last year I remember, I was late for school (mom failed to get up to wake me up) my girl called me (I don't remember that) and I've sent her to hell... So, the phone thing ain't working for me..

Reply #35 Top

I'm currently having the same problem as the OP. Can't wake up in the morning, can't get to sleep at night, feel absolutely horrible when I finally manage to drag myself out of bed. I used to be able to just get out of bed anyway if I needed to, but lately it's like my body has just given up trying; I get at least 8 hours of sleep whether I like it or not, and I always feel sick at the end of it. I'm wondering if I have sleep apnea or if this is just the result of spending years in jobs that had me bouncing between day and night shifts several times a week.

It frustrates the hell out of me because I don't drink alcohol, don't use over-caffeinated energy junk, and have an alarm loud enough to annoy the whole house, yet I still somehow wake up late and feeling like a train wreck. I'd try exercising more, but it's kind of hard when I don't really feel okay until evening, when exercising would interfere with sleeping.

/rant

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I'm wondering if I have sleep apnea or if this is just the result of spending years in jobs that had me bouncing between day and night shifts several times a week.
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Could be that if you feel like crap almost every day. Time shifting sucks, I have a neighbor that works time-shifted and he's literally slo-mo every day.

It frustrates the hell out of me because I don't drink alcohol, don't use over-caffeinated energy junk, and have an alarm loud enough to annoy the whole house, yet I still somehow wake up late and feeling like a train wreck. I'd try exercising more, but it's kind of hard when I don't really feel okay until evening, when exercising would interfere with sleeping.
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It might be the stress from work (that shifting you mentioned). Like C17 told me,

The best advice I can give is 1.) see a doctor 2.) exercise regularly, eat healthy, and meditate or perform some action to clear your mind before going to sleep and you should have no problem fixing your sleeping patterns.
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Although I don't metitate, usually I'm walking or at the park with my dog after my snack and breathe some fresh air with him. You can try exercising before washing your teeth, to get those bones and muscles in proper order for the day that is coming.

Cheerzzzz

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Quoting AG3, reply 25

Quoting tito_defekt, reply 8
Are you drinking any energy drinks?
Rarely. Most of the time I drink alcohol.

But doesn't that should put me into a deep sleep?
 

Alcohol makes it easier to fall asleep, true, but it severely reduces the "quality" of your sleep and thus you get a lot less rested from it than you would if you had no alcohol in you. If you want to be more rested from sleep, cutting out the alcohol  should be your first step.

 

If you drink almost every night, you're going to end up in a constant state of fatigue or drowsiness.
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Alcohol at times exhibits properties of a stimulant.

 

http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/apr99/924747505.Ns.r.html

 

Additionally, a study was done in Japan recently I believe suggesting that ideal sleep time is between 6-7 hours, not 8.  Moreover, getting less sleep up to a point, between 4-6, is healthier than getting too much sleep, 8 or more hours.

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Quoting Rhelamos, reply 12
Additionally, a study was done in Japan recently I believe suggesting that ideal sleep time is between 6-7 hours, not 8.  Moreover, getting less sleep up to a point, between 4-6, is healthier than getting too much sleep, 8 or more hours.
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I'm always skeptical about all these "ideal number of hours of sleep" studies. For one, they represent an average, which isn't necessarily helpful for the individual. If the average ideal hours of sleep is 8 hours, what does that mean for me? The answer: nothing at all. For me maybe it's 4, or maybe it's 10. Maybe it even depends on the time of year (I don't know about you but I sleep much more in winter than in summer). The second reason is that every year the ideal sleep time changes, and it's not even approaching a stable number - it changes wildly and unpredictably every year. I'll start paying attention to these studies when multiple studies carried out by different researchers around the globe over the course of a significant number of years start corroborating one another, with few or no contrary studies laying doubt on their veracity.

Reply #39 Top

Quoting tito_defekt, reply 10



Well, yes. I often do that in the bus on my way to school if there is no seat available. 

I remember, last year the bus was about 2 miles close to my house and I've done that. Next thing, I'm waking up about 4 miles away and I've been driving in the bus about 1 and a half an hour for f**k sake...

Holy sh*t, I'm sick!!
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Based on your quotes, I'd say you're narcoleptic. http://www.webmd.com/sleep-disorders/guide/narcolepsy Use the link for info on this disorder.

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Quoting pigeonpigeon, reply 13

Quoting Rhelamos, reply 12Additionally, a study was done in Japan recently I believe suggesting that ideal sleep time is between 6-7 hours, not 8.  Moreover, getting less sleep up to a point, between 4-6, is healthier than getting too much sleep, 8 or more hours.
I'm always skeptical about all these "ideal number of hours of sleep" studies. For one, they represent an average, which isn't necessarily helpful for the individual. If the average ideal hours of sleep is 8 hours, what does that mean for me? The answer: nothing at all. For me maybe it's 4, or maybe it's 10. Maybe it even depends on the time of year (I don't know about you but I sleep much more in winter than in summer). The second reason is that every year the ideal sleep time changes, and it's not even approaching a stable number - it changes wildly and unpredictably every year. I'll start paying attention to these studies when multiple studies carried out by different researchers around the globe over the course of a significant number of years start corroborating one another, with few or no contrary studies laying doubt on their veracity.
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Fair enough, but the centre point of the study was that getting less sleep is generally healthier than getting too much sleep.

Reply #41 Top

Everything that has been posted here tells me that:

1. Probably is some phase that I'm going through

2. It will pass (I hope)

3. It's in the genes, I know that because me, my dad, grandfather, even my sister, we all sleep about 14 hours, no matter day or night

4. I'm gonna die old enough to see my grandsons sleeping 14 hours a day

For me, this is a happy ending

Reply #42 Top

It would be a good idea to determine if you may suffer from sleep disorders. You should discuss your problems with your doctor. He or she will obtain additional information and perform a physical examination. They can then decide if you need referral to a sleep specialist.

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Since I'm back in school again, things ain't changed at all. Again, exhausted at the end of the classes, ignoring the teachers, sleeping in the bus............... ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

 

A friend of mine that studies medicine told me that It's just a phase. He said that it's unusual to sleep 14 hours in this phase I've got and that this could be related to stress. Only stress I got is the school.

I guess this is it, but I haven't visited a doctor a while, so my next step is to do this.

Cheerz.

Reply #45 Top

I would check with the doctor if you continue to feel unrefreshed after having had enough sleep.  A blood test can determine if you're suffering from, for example, hypothyroidism.

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I suffered through life with the same problems as the OP, diagnosed with idiopathic hypersomnia. Could never keep a reasonable sleep schedule, and eventually "sleep debt" catches up to you and go through periods of extremely long sleep patterns. Slept through final exams in the semester I went to college, and was constantly in trouble in the military over sleep issues and arriving late etc. This was all before the science was founded in around 2000. Had sleep studies done (paid for by my father as my insurance wouldn't cover it and I was fired from my job even though I took FMLA leave to get it sorted) and they found mild sleep apnea, but I hadn't the resources for the CPAP and continued studies. 

 

I recommend reading Dr. Dement's "Promise of Sleep". He was the pioneer of sleep science and his studies gave us much of the understanding we have today. Having a sleep disorder in the US is truly a curse, I'm sorry for the future suffering you will endure.

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Reply #48 Top

Don't sleep during daytime... that way, you require less sleep at night.

Try to avoid sleeping during daytime as much as possible. I take naps during the day in weekends and sometimes I fall asleep for a few hours. Every time that happens, my night sleep is shorter than usual. Then the next day I'm really tired, want to sleep during the afternoon and if I do that, it just gets worse ... so try to limit your sleep during the day.

Set 1 (or 2) alarm clocks to wake you up whenever you do a nap during the day. Try not to nap for longer than an hour.

I have 2 alarm clocks, because I can switch off 1 without (consciously) waking up, but that doesn't happen when I have 2 alarm clocks.

Also, don't push yourself. Go to bed in time and wake up as late as possible. I require 8 to 9 hours of sleep... I go to bed between 10 and 11 and set the alarm around 8. I used to set the alarm around 7, but then I just got too much time in the morning.

 

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