It's not related to Revelations.  Those are crazy scorpion locusts that don't exist. 

These people just want to release actual locusts...though I would be interested in how they could release a significant number(they're grasshoppers until they start to behave in swarm)...I'd imagine it'd be costly as they are freaking ravenous.

One of our locust species went extinct awhile back, the Rocky Mountain locust.

~Zoo

not yet. 

Yes, crazy as in demonic, I would add. 

How could someone two thousand years ago possibly know there'd be swarms of locusts two thousand years in the future? I'm sure locust swarms weren't even invented back then!

When I read your title, I thought you might be continuing where you left off in writing of the Book of Revelation. I note you skipped over Rev. 9:1-12 which contains the mention of locusts.

Heh.  I've yet to see something new just pop into existence.

Besides, everyone knows the apocalypse will be signified by zombie attacks.

~Zoo

locust swarms have been around for millions of years. 2 thousand won't make a difference.

i'd say it was a safe bet they'd have locusts in the year 4,009, if it wasn't for the chance of us killing everything again.

I hve to kinda go along with KFC on this one; as a Christian, I know that, if God wants something to "pop into existence", it just might.

Not to be mean, but is this a serious post? I mean, first of all, locusts swarm. It's what they do. Period.

Second, it's called Biblical prophesy, some of which has been pretty scary, really, just lately.

And I believe He won't ever do that because it would interfere with His gift to humanity.

The 'news'?  because somebody did something 20 years ago and somebody else writes a book about it now?

Perhaps when these man eating locusts appear then it might be something that aligns with the bible but the news does match the appearance of man eating locusts.

exactly, besides these locusts in Revelation could be just "super" locusts sort of like the African Bees or something.  I mean Satan put his spirit into Cain, Saul, Judas, Hitler, Stalin (insert your favorite bad guy here) what makes you think he can't demonize a bunch of locusts?  Remember the swine that were demonic in the gospels? 

All I'm saying is the local news is starting more and more to line up with what's been prophisied for end time events.  More than ever. 

That's what I was wondering.  There were locusts back then and even two thousand years before that.  Remember Pharoah and the 10 plagues? 

and how do you know that?  And...why wouldn't he? 

How could I possibly know that? But I believe G-d gave us this world and free will, and if He interfered directly, He would interfere with it. I don't think He would/could do that. G-d's gift of free will to us is the ultimate proof for His love for us because it required Him to give up or suspend His omnipotence.

So you're saying God "can't" do something?  What kind of a God is that? 

And we messed up this world and abused our free will.  God is a very patient God Leauki but according to the scriptures (old and new) it says there will be a time when his patience will be done and justice will enter in. 

I believe the scriptures are a road map for us to follow.  He is not going to be surprising those who are ready and awake.  I can tell you exactly how it's going to unfold by just opening up the book.  So far thru the centuries it's been proven correct so why wouldn't the end times be as well? 

God would never suspend or give up his omnipotence.  Why would he?  What kind of a God would give up his deity? 

Read me again. I said He willingly gave up His omnipotence. Any omnipotent god can do whatever he wants including giving up his powers. Are you saying that G-d cannot give up His powers?

Only a god who loves his children unconditionally would do that.

In the Old Testament, locusts were a common figure of destruction both physically and spiritually speaking. And this goes to describing literally using them to do much evil in the world.  

Even though St.John uses the locust imagery, the meaning behind Revelation 9 isn't literal as far as locusts are concerned.

Apocalypse 9 is a description of God's wrath; it's a judgment against mankind...God is going to withdraw His protective Hand and allow the locusts from Hell....Note.....it's not upon the grass, or the earth, but it's St.John's way of describing how hoards of Satan's demons will be allowed pour into the world causing unimaginable devestation upon people without the seal of God on their foreheads (which to Catholics is our seal of Baptism).

The pain of the sting is going to be excruciating, but will not cause death. This judgment will cause pain but not death.

The more mankind rebels against God, the more God is going to withdraw and allow these hellish entitites to control our lives. These locust-scorpions represent all the hellish influence of evil in the world...corrupt politics, sex crazed culture, godless education, swindling financiers, false religions, criminal activity, the list goes on and on.....

If you read on in the next verses in Aocalypse 9:7-9, you'll find the 7 item description of these locusts...becasue of the number 7, these items symbolize the totality of the onslaught. 

Dr. Robert Sungenis commentary has it that "the swarming of locusts represents evil's total manipulation of the world to its own desires and the stings represent the misery that will come from that dominance. One is either God's servant or the devil's slave and there is no middle ground. The people of the world are the devil's slaves. Although the people of the world think they are free, they are enslaved all the more, and they will do the devil's bidding whether they know it fully or not. Each of them will come under his rule and pressure and they will conform to his dictates, or they will not survive in the world, for as we see in Apoc. 13, he has placed his mark on all of them, and that mark requires they obey his power or else perish."  

ZOO POSTS:

KFC POSTS:

Here you go again, KFC, interpretating the Book of Revelation literally!   

Two things that occured to me today, both directed at Zoo: One--

http://www.cracked.com/article_15643_5-scientific-reasons-zombie-apocalypse-could-actually-happen.html

Enjoy; the whole site is hilarious.

Two: I recently read an article or saw on Discovery (or something) how just in the last few years, they've found something like 1500 or 1600 new species of animals, birds, insects, plants....if this is so, who's to say "scorpion locusts" won't soon be added?

~~"exactly, besides these locusts in Revelation could be just "super" locusts sort of like the African Bees or something.  I mean Satan put his spirit into Cain, Saul, Judas, Hitler, Stalin (insert your favorite bad guy here) what makes you think he can't demonize a bunch of locusts?  Remember the swine that were demonic in the gospels?"~~~--KFC

Not at all to disagree with you, but don't forget that the "demonic swine" were just ordinary swine until Jesus exorcised the man and sent Legion into them. Unless I'm missing something.

Leauki: maybe you understand this, maybe you don't, but this is how I believe, based on what I've learned from Bible study; 

Jesus didn't give up his divine nature; Jesus, God and the Holy Spirit are all the same entity. All three existing separately, yet together at the same time. Just because God applies physical laws to us doesn't mean He has to follow them.

God came to Earth to live among humans, to understand how and what we are; our problems, our nature. I believe, though I could wrong, that Yahweh is the only deity in all of religion to do so, lety alone in such a personal manner.

Anyway, when He was born to Mary, He also stayed in heaven. So, when Jesus was praying to the Father, or talking about the Father...He was, essentially, praying to and talking about, Himself. Then again, He wasn't.

And a question: one thing I've noticed is that many people on here write "G-d" instead of just, simply, "God"? Why is that?

Zoo, if you are actually zoologist you wouldn't be saying that those crazy locust don't exist (maybe currently to our knowledge they don't BUT they could very well be out there).  They just found a slew of new insects in Thailand in the Northern part near Chaing Mai.

I lived in Chaing Mai and Chaing Rae (which is really close to the border of Myanmar).  That rain forest there has countless of insects that they just classified. There are some that they still haven't mentioned for whatever reason like the cockroach that spits cyanide.  So in other words, they are always finding new insects.

Leauki, I agree with you on some of your points. Not all of them though. It does say pertaining to the Moshiach Melech"And there was given HIM  dominion and glory, and a kingdom that all the peoples, nations and languages should serve HIM; HIS dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and HIS kingdom that which shall not be destroyed."(Daniel 7:14) "Then shall HE be great even unto the ends of the earth" (Micah 5:3).  Eventually the Conquerering King will come back to reclaim.

According to the Sanhedrin 98a "Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi explained that the form in which the Messiah will appear depends on us. "If they merit, HE will come 'on heavenly clouds.  If they do not merit, then HE will be a pauper riding on a donkey."

I'm saying all that to say this.  That G-D does relinquish HIS omnipotence as in HE doesn't always intervene with what's happening on earth, BUT there are times that HE will. According Maimonides 13 foundations for the faith (Judaism) Priniciple X "That G-D knows man's actions and does not remove HIS eye from them.  HIS knowledge is not like someone who says G-D abandoned the land but rather like it says "Great in council and mighty in deed, YOUR eyes are cognizant to all the ways of mankind. Genesis 6 says And G-D saw for the evil man on the land had grown greatly and it says The disgust of Sodom and Amorrah is great."

Rightwinger, an answer to your question is because the name of G-D is sacred.  In the Tanack G-D and L-RD would be written in this manner in order to prevent the desecration of HIS Holy Name.

On my rare ventures into some semblance of religion, this is what I go for.  I believe God has a 'hands-off' policy in the world. 

Not saying I'm right, but that's just my personal opinion. 

I'm familiar with Cracked...it's on my list of daily reads.

I'm all for the discovery of an already existing species...but demon bugs from hell?  I'm skeptical to say the least.

~Zoo

Well, okay....but for the record, God's  name (at least, the Judeo-Christian God) is Yahweh. "Capital-g God" is just a general refernce to Yahweh.

You write of faith, not understanding. I don't believe that Jesus was the "son of G-d" and neither do I believe that he was the Messiah. It has nothing to do with understanding and everything to do with faith.

I have faith but I have faith _in G-d_; no tools, no icons, no symbols, no connecting priests or family members; G-d alone.

Oh, yes. But those times are rare and require human will and "permission".

We are not good enough for G-d to intervene.

Maybe if we were, the Messiah would come. It's up to us to make the world a better place. G-d is not our servant we call upon to solve our problems for us.

It's a Jewish custom related to not writing out the name of the deity.

All statements about G-d are ultimately opinions. It is the fact that something can be true but not provable and the realisation that hence rational well-meaning people can legitimately come to different conclusions without fault of their own that makes it bearable.

RIGHTWINGER POSTS:

Actually, it's both faith and understanding and more....add common sense since he said he believed this based on Bible study.

Having faith (simple belief) in God is a good first step....now, strengthen that by going on to the next logical step. God revealed something of Himself in Scripture.  Faith is a divine virtue by which we firmly believe the truths which God has revealed. Having belief and understanding of God through Scripture is supernatural faith.

You certainly have the talent and sufficient knowledge to strengthen your faith in God by searching with all your heart what God of Isreal meant when He said "She-ma Yisrael Adoni Elohenu Adonai Ehod"....as this warrants the Christian understanding that the God of Isreal is a Triune God. Translated from the Hebrew, Elohim (the Eternal One) our Gods is a unity....The term Elohim is plural.

It appears 32 times in Genesis 1 and it warrants the conclusion  that the plurality of Persons in God must have been in the mind of Moses. Besides the She-ma, the plural declarations of God is found in Gen. 1:26, "Let us make man in Our image and likeness." In 11:7, "Let us go down and there confuse their language." From this we can equate the Trinitarian God, Father, Son and Holy Ghost with the affirmation of God's unity in the She-ma.

Which scripture? So many scriptures were written, with no word from G-d Himself regarding which one is true.

There is the Avesta, the Hebrew Bible, the Christian Bible, the Qur'an, the Book of Mormon, and so many others. I believe in the one that is actually relevant to my life, the Hebrew Bible. It tells the history of Israel.

The Christian Bible purports to add to it, the Quran retells it, the Book of Mormon adds to it again, and the Avesta exists side-by-side (and I think I should read it).

But there is nothing logical about choosing one or the other of those.

The statement goes "Shema3 Yisrael Adonai Eloheynu Adonai Echad". (What does the dash stand for in your "She-ma"? The vowel between the "sh" and the "m" is a shewa, essentially a very short vowel or no vowel at all. The "3" is an Ayin, a consonant that doesn't exist in English.)

"Echad" means "one", not "unity". "Unity" is "ichod". It's spelt differently (Alef Het Dalet vs Alef Yud Het Vav Dalet). The sentence says "Hear Oh Israel, the lord is our god the lord is one".

No, it isn't. Plus the word "Elohim" doesn't even appear in the sentence. "Eloheynu" is the conjugated (for possession) form of "eloah" which is the Hebrew equivalent of Arabic "ilah", the word for "god". "Elohim" is a name, in singular. "Eloah" is a word that means "god". "Eloheynu" means "our god". There is no plural there, only singular, and no "unity", only "one".

If you replace the odd word, change the grammatical number of others, and add the odd vowel you can get that, yes. But using that method you can read everything into anything.

eloah = god

elohim = gods

Elohim = G-d (a name)

While the second and third are spelt the same (Alef Lamed Hey Yud Mem), they command different verb forms. The second uses plural verbs, the third uses singular verbs, like the first.

Assuming that Moses was very bad at Hebrew grammar.

I have no idea to whom G-d was talking when he said "let us", but specifying the exact number "three" for "us" seems weird to me. Where do you get the exact number from "us"?

Incidentally, Hebrew has two different plurals, one for "normal" plurals (like three cats) and one for inherent plurals (like four legs of a dog). A "trinity" would be an inherent plural, but "elohim" is a normal plural. Grammatically the only thing "elohim" (if we think of it as a plural despite the singular verb it commands) tells us is that it can be any number except a specific, inherent such.

(I think I already told you all this before, didn't I? Anyway, "echad" means "one", not "unity".)

"Mr. Seraf? Mr. Seraf? Where are you? You are never here when I need you!"

"I am here my Lord. Speak."

"Mr. Seraf? How did the campaign go? Do these idiots finally believe that I am One?"

"Well, we deployed the prophet, saved them from Pharao's army, gave them to eat..."

"Did you give them the law?"

"Sir, You did that Yourself, don't You remember?"

"Right, yes. Sorry. And did it help?"

"Well, they have stopped murdering each other and this one guy stopped coveting his neighbour's wife and moved on towards two tents down the path."

"We will have to clarify that point."

"Either way, the message about being One came through. They believe it, but some of them are still not sure."

"Good. Continue helping them and punish them when they lose faith. If in a thousand years they finally get it with the being One, you can explain about the Trinity."

"My Lord, I think at that point they might have had enough."

http://web.mac.com/ajbrehm/Home/Blog/Entries/2008/8/10_When_G-d_Introduced_Monotheism.html