Installing Entrenchment 1.0 deleted Sins!

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Please note, I'm not talking about having to remove both of them if you had an earlier beta.  I did that on Friday and installed the last pre-release beta.

 

But today, I installed the 1.0 Entrenchment release and the new Sins patch (queued them up for install while I went to eat, actually; they were both downloading when I left the machine), clicked on it in Impulse to run it, and got a big warning saying that Entrenchment needs Sins and Sins isn't installed.  Eh?  I took a look and indeed, Sins wasn't installed.  I'm guessing that something about the Entrenchment update caused Sins to get wiped out.  Now I get to download another 800 MB of game, which means, given my network connection, that I won't get to play the new release until tomorrow.  :(   I'm not sure why this happened -- maybe the fact that I queued up both updates at once has something to do with it?  Hopefully you can track this down and fix it, so no-one else gets hit by this one.

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Reply #1 from Sins Forums Top

I avoided this by updating Sins to 1.15, creating an archive, and then uninstalling Entrenchment.  The beta version seems to require that all the original Sins files get wiped as well since during the beta they were not entirely separate programs.  As for your extra downloading, I don't think you have any other option if you didn't backup before uninstalling.

Reply #2 from Sins Forums Top

I had similar problems, two days ago I downloaded the 1.14 update which required a full download of both Sins and Entrenchment, and at that stage it all seemed clean, Sins & Entrenchment installed in one folder, then came the release and another update which I duly installed for both Sins & Entrenchment, but at the end of that process Sins was gone, so I had yet another download. At 700Mb a pop with my limited download allowance from my ISP that will end up costing money.

No doubt in my mind the updating via Impulse has been the worst part of the beta process by far. It's just been ugly and has caused a lot of problems for many players.

I'll need to think very carefully about laying down my money on another beta.

Elemental: Reforged
Reply #3 from Sins Forums Top

I found the same problem if I did them at the same time, I had no problem installing entrenchment after upgrading to 1.15 first however

Reply #4 from Sins Forums Top

I agree it is possible to avoid problems, but the installers should be better, if the previous version needs to be uninstalled the updater should do it. We should not need to be careful about the order of installation or deleting registry keys etc. Let's hope Stardock/Ironclad do a much better job on the installers next time.

Reply #5 from Sins Forums Top

For the initial entrenchment release, uninstalling it will remove Sins as well to make sure any files leftover from earlier Sins betas are removed.

The beta files initially went in Sins folders and you could only run Entrenchment. Later betas changed that so Sins and Entrenchment could be updated and run independently, but there wasn't a means to cleanup the older betas method short of uninstalling.

That's impacting uninstalls of regular release Entrenchment atm until a little time has passed and anyone with the betas should have updated. I've a note to disable uninstalling the parent Sins for a future update to Entrenchment.

Kris

 

 

 

Reply #6 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting Nakor, reply 5
For the initial entrenchment release, uninstalling it will remove Sins as well to make sure any files leftover from earlier Sins betas are removed.

The beta files initially went in Sins folders and you could only run Entrenchment. Later betas changed that so Sins and Entrenchment could be updated and run independently, but there wasn't a means to cleanup the older betas method short of uninstalling.

That's impacting uninstalls of regular release Entrenchment atm until a little time has passed and anyone with the betas should have updated. I've a note to disable uninstalling the parent Sins for a future update to Entrenchment.

Kris

 

 

 
End of Nakor's quote

So we can now install "Digging in" without over-riding our original sin?

Reply #7 from Sins Forums Top

Yes, Entrenchment adds on to it but doesn't replace it. So you can run either vanilla or Entrenchment.