Regulus, generic pantheon early game build, your thoughts

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What I've noticed Regulus suffers from a lot is the low HP and defense (1v1) capability especially in domination games. Here is a generic build I use on most of my Pantheon games. Speccing deep into enhanced attributes at the beginning allows for nice mana and HP regen as well as increased survivability. Sometimes I will include Snipe in the build(2 Regulus with coordinated snipes is an excellent combo), but against skilled opponents the skill is not useful for much else than harassment.

In fortress games I will also go for range, to be able to take down the forts without sustaining damage.

-favor item: Heaven's Wrath(crazy exp bonus)

-store item: movement speed boots, (can't remember what they are called)

This build also allows for a much more versatile item selection. Crit gloves are included in my build in nearly every game, as well as one hp/mana boosting item. Depending on the game mode, map and opponents I will either go deep artifact(max dps) or max upgrades. With crit gloves, even without further damage increasing items, Regulus already makes an excellent chase hero, the addition of extra movement speed from the start just compliments this.

Skill order:
Mines 1

Maim 1

Enhanced attributes 1

Mines 2

Mark of the Betrayer 1

Enhanced Attributes 2

Maim 2

Mines 3

Enhanced Attributes 3

Mark of the Betrayer 2

 

From here on I skill depending on how the game is going. Generally I will max out Maim, mines and mark and also enhanced attributes.

 

The build itself seems to do quite well against most combinations, a high HP regulus seems to put many players off their game.

 

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Reply #1 from Demigod Forums Top

Meh.  I haven't played it myself so I can't speak authoritatively... but Enhanced Attributes doesn't seem like a viable replacement for other skills.  I'd rather take Lv 1 AF for creeping and Lv 1 SS for killing towers than get a small stat boost.

Reply #2 from Demigod Forums Top

I hate it when people dont take snipe as first skill!!!  This is a team game and either steal the kill with it or get an long range assist (which means more gold)

1. snipe

2. enhanced attributes

3 mine

4 mine

5 Mob

6-10 maim and mines

reason is you are all ready farming with heavens wrath (also never get heavens wrath on crucible)

you can add in range when u want to push towers.

I rarely put more then 1 point in range

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Reply #3 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting lukkas_ROCKUS, reply 1
Meh.  I haven't played it myself so I can't speak authoritatively... but Enhanced Attributes doesn't seem like a viable replacement for other skills.  I'd rather take Lv 1 AF for creeping and Lv 1 SS for killing towers than get a small stat boost.
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With the additions of Heaven's Wrath(kills whole creep waves up to catapults) and mines this is all you need really.

Reply #4 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting HorseRadish, reply 2
I hate it when people dont take snipe as first skill!!!  This is a team game and either steal the kill with it or get an long range assist (which means more gold)

1. snipe

2. enhanced attributes

3 mine

4 mine

5 Mob

6-10 maim and mines

reason is you are all ready farming with heavens wrath (also never get heavens wrath on crucible)

you can add in range when u want to push towers.

I rarely put more then 1 point in range
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I sometimes do take snipe, depends on the match-up really. Against a skilled opponent team, it is not that useful.

Reply #5 from Demigod Forums Top

Question: Why do people recommend Enchanced Attributes? They are terrible IMO. They give soooo little, even early game. I would rather have more skills and have options instead.

Plus mines let you accelerate your exp, if you have Heaven's Wrath, you may not need them, but if you don't have Heaven's Wrath, mines should always be the first skill.

To the OP > Regulus does make a great chase Hero, but with no HP items, he will msot likely not get to the part of the fight where that matters, on top of that, with snipe and Heaven's Wrath, why do you need to chase?

Reply #6 from Demigod Forums Top

With the additions of Heaven's Wrath(kills whole creep waves up to catapults) and mines this is all you need really.
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Yea, OK, so you can creep with Heaven's Wrath.  But there are better favor items than Heaven's Wrath.

Over the course of the game, you've got 10+ skill points to contribute and only 1 favor item.  If given the choice to use 1 of my 10 skill points to get some creeping ability (AF) or use my 1 sole favor item to get some creeping ability, I'd use my 1 of 10 skill points.  I'd use my favor item to provide something more scarce.  Staff of Renewal, Blood of the Fallen, Swift Anklet, Poisoned Dagger, Mard's Hammer all provide much better bonuses and will help your early game more than Heaven's Wrath.

Just to break it down for you... Heaven's Wrath provides 5.5 DPS.  Not a rockstar.  And the only DGs you can finish off with it are noobs.  So it's pretty much limited to creeping which, as noted above, AF does just as well and doesn't use up that one valuable favor slot.

Reply #7 from Demigod Forums Top

I was going to reply to this saying Snipe isn't really any good... but compared to enhanced attributes, I can't see not taking it.  And heck, Angelic fury is so much better than Attributes it isn't even funny.

 

Lastly, Heaven's wrath really isn't as good as people think, except on maps with more lanes than you can defend.  Experience is DIVIDED amongst the DG's who participate, meaning that wrathing a friends lane gets you nothing, you just steal half the xp for yourself.  You will get more gold, true, but that is it.

Reply #8 from Demigod Forums Top

And the only DGs you can finish off with it are noobs.
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It reveals the map for a follow up snipe. Thats it's use late game. Early game, on a large map like leviathan, you let them take the side spawners and farm both lanes, this way you aren't stealing from your allies. Or if you need to go back to store or something, you can still farm your lane.

Now again, this is from the perspective of a Pantheon player where palying 2v2 on Levathan is not uncommon.

I am not saying Heaven's Wrath is the best favor item for Regulus, but there definatly is a place for it.

Reply #9 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting Zechnophobe, reply 7
I was going to reply to this saying Snipe isn't really any good... but compared to enhanced attributes, I can't see not taking it.  And heck, Angelic fury is so much better than Attributes it isn't even funny.

 

Lastly, Heaven's wrath really isn't as good as people think, except on maps with more lanes than you can defend.  Experience is DIVIDED amongst the DG's who participate, meaning that wrathing a friends lane gets you nothing, you just steal half the xp for yourself.  You will get more gold, true, but that is it.
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ummm get xp upgrade at level 2 in citadel. umm outlevel opponent and get more gold.  I will take heavens wrath. I remember a game other day. when someone said how did you level so fast.  I will gladly take on your level 8 demigod with my level 12 to 13 heavens wrath using regulus!! What is even better is a early priest feeder to a heavens wrathing mining regulus. :inlove:

Reply #10 from Demigod Forums Top

Horseradish, I think you may be decieving yourself.  If all you are getting is gold, and using that for xp citadel upgrades, you aren't going to get 4 or 5 levels on the opposition. If you are in the situation where you can work a second empty lane, it is great, but I think it is a bit of a mistake to count on that.

Also, the raw power of the wrath is pretty mediocre.  A Blood of the Fallen enemy is going to have a pretty big health advantage on you, and possibly drive you from the lane.

 

Edit: Y'know, I just realized the OP buys boots of speed initially.  This is one of those moves that is, let us say, common amongst those who haven't played all that long.

Reply #11 from Demigod Forums Top

Horseradish, I think you may be decieving yourself. If all you are getting is gold, and using that for xp citadel upgrades, you aren't going to get 4 or 5 levels on the opposition. If you are in the situation where you can work a second empty lane, it is great, but I think it is a bit of a mistake to count on that.

Also, the raw power of the wrath is pretty mediocre. A Blood of the Fallen enemy is going to have a pretty big health advantage on you, and possibly drive you from the lane.



Edit: Y'know, I just realized the OP buys boots of speed initially. This is one of those moves that is, let us say, common amongst those who haven't played all that long.
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Concur!

Reply #12 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting lukkas_ROCKUS, reply 11

Horseradish, I think you may be decieving yourself. If all you are getting is gold, and using that for xp citadel upgrades, you aren't going to get 4 or 5 levels on the opposition. If you are in the situation where you can work a second empty lane, it is great, but I think it is a bit of a mistake to count on that.

Also, the raw power of the wrath is pretty mediocre. A Blood of the Fallen enemy is going to have a pretty big health advantage on you, and possibly drive you from the lane.



Edit: Y'know, I just realized the OP buys boots of speed initially. This is one of those moves that is, let us say, common amongst those who haven't played all that long.


Concur!
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Come look me up I will take my regulus build against yours anyday. After 11 months of playing regulus I think I can manage against any of your builds

Reply #13 from Demigod Forums Top

Come look me up I will take my regulus build against yours anyday. After 11 months of playing regulus I think I can manage against any of your builds
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Horseradish, you have NO IDEA what you're getting yourself into.  I'm pro.  I've got, like, a 3:7 win:loss ratio.

Reply #15 from Demigod Forums Top

Careful, you e-peen is showing.
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E-peen?  Does not compute.

Reply #16 from Demigod Forums Top

I was going to reply to this saying Snipe isn't really any good... but compared to enhanced attributes, I can't see not taking it. And heck, Angelic fury is so much better than Attributes it isn't even funny.

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1 point in Snipe is a great deal.  Its a nice amount of long range damage early on, and its very annoying to opponents on most maps.

But its main source of value is getting you extra gold.  You should be getting so many cheap assists that you wouldnt otherwise have with Snipe.  Even if you can only get 5 bonus assists over the course of a game that you wouldnt have otherwise gotten, thats still a HUGE amount of gold for 1 skill point.