Balance problem

"Vampire dis balance"

I write through the translator, as well as badly speak English. Now playing 1na1 ub vs LordErebus. I was always dominated the lack of proper balance, but this game just hit me. I will not paint the details that will make a replay, he will say. 
Be please with this problem. 
Methods of solution: 
1) Reduce Mignon 
2) make a stronger tower 
3) increase the levels to get Mignon.

Description: vampire destroyed all the towers and the citadel, I could not have anything to oppose him.

 replay (instructions for playing inside) http://rapidshare.com/files/253273114/replay.rar.html 

p.s. sry me english

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Reply #1 Top

well...it's well known fact. UB cant win good Erebus or Sedna in 1v1 game. I hope they'll fix it but many ppl here on forum says that it's not 1v1 game and if it's not balanced in 1v1 dont mean that it's not balanced in teamplay. I dont think so and hope they'll make a balance in 1v1 game any DG can win any other DG. At that moment i dont know any build or tactics for UB to win good Erebus with Minions build or good Sedna. I was playing with Erebus yesterday. And he uses something like horn as a favor so his minions gets huge HP regen so even me+towers cant kill them. So they just easy destroys all the towers and win the game.

Sorry for bad English

Reply #2 Top

There are counters to other demigods for a reason, this is how teamgames work and will always work there will never be perfect 1v1 balance in any teamgame due to the fact that you would need Very simmilair abilities, heroes and stats which would create a very boring game

Reply #3 Top

It's actually possible to beat good Sedna with UB (UB damage output is much bigger than Sednas Heal + Regen, you just have to stack HP and carry potions with you, as well as you need to start getting the towers on lvl 4 with spit).

But yeah - it's virtually impossible to do anything with UB against Erebus.

The only way that MAY work is huge ammount of AOE damage (Post Mortem + Ooze) and Parasite egg at some point (There's no way Erebus can avoid u totally, so there'll be moment when you can hit him at least 2-3 times before he swarms away. I actually beated few good Erebuses with that kind of build, but that takes HUGE ammount of patience, cap-locking (Because it's really hard to maintain flag control against minion Erebus, who is virtually in 2 places at the same time) and accurate play.

Reply #4 Top

Don't play in 1v1 games. Trust me, the more people the better. :grin:

Reply #5 Top

Just going to add that I find that Sedna has difficulties defeating an Ooze UB.  I have one damage skill against him and have to spam it to graze his health/armor, sinch autoattacking comes in so slowly.

Reply #6 Top

tried the parasite egg trinket?

Reply #7 Top

I don't view 1v1 as an intended gametype, and the game isn't balanced for it anyway. Can you play it? Sure. Consider that there's 8 maps - 1 2v2, 2 3v3, 2 4v4, 3 5v5 maps and you can see that the intended team size is primarily 3 - 5 players per team. Personally I think the game doesn't play well enough until 3v3+ but that's my opinion.

Reply #8 Top

Quoting RapierX, reply 7
I don't view 1v1 as an intended gametype, and the game isn't balanced for it anyway. Can you play it? Sure. Consider that there's 8 maps - 1 2v2, 2 3v3, 2 4v4, 3 5v5 maps and you can see that the intended team size is primarily 3 - 5 players per team. Personally I think the game doesn't play well enough until 3v3+ but that's my opinion.
End of RapierX's quote

I agree.  I find interesting balance swings... Where with 2v2 my Sedna is utterly broken overpowered, Queen becomes stronger than her in 4v4 and is close to even in 3v3.

Reply #9 Top

Sedna is absolutely sucker in 2v2 usually :) There're no OP demis in any game except maybe UB and Ereb in 1v1

Reply #10 Top

"Perfect balance" is impossible.  Even in games that are designed for 1v1, some characters or playstyles are just considered better.  It isn't a bad thing.  Just accept it and play whatever is fun to play for you.