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to all you annoying vasari fanboys/girls out there:

just chill out already. lol advent can kill you OMG NERF THE HELLZ OUT OF THEM! always trying to get everything balanced around vasari. well guess what your lrf sucks...its a cheap tier 1 pos. ofc it gets beat by illum. maybe if you'd just build some carriers (hey! guess what! they did drop the build rate penatly on carriers in 1.17/1.03!).

same thing with repulse, its about the only useful support cruiser ability advent have against vasari (shield bubble gets screwed by phase missiles) funny that the devs even made illums have less range than repulsion (hint hint).

who's sticking up for the tec anyway?

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Reply #1 Top

ill stick up for the TEC

MB is NOT overpowered/unbalanced.

Why? Cause i say so :P

Reply #2 Top

Each race has something really good...

TEC: MB

Advent: Illums

Vasari: SB

so I don't see it as a problem...

 

Besides, Vasari ought to beat Advent because of phase missiles...  Advent has high shields and low hull, so Vas ought to win unless they do something stupid...

Reply #3 Top

Quoting Volt_Cruelerz, reply 2
Each race has something really good...

TEC: MB

Advent: Illums

Vasari: SB

so I don't see it as a problem...

 

Besides, Vasari ought to beat Advent because of phase missiles...  Advent has high shields and low hull, so Vas ought to win unless they do something stupid...
End of Volt_Cruelerz's quote

I don't think you should be able to win automatically based on what race you pick.

Hence the balance.

So each race should have an equal shot at beating everyone else, just in different ways.

Reply #4 Top

Yes, I was saying though that the Vas have an easier time beating the Advent than they do the TEC...  It'd not rock-paper-scissors, its just the way the game works...

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to all you annoying vasari fanboys/girls out there:

just chill out already. lol advent can kill you OMG NERF THE HELLZ OUT OF THEM! always trying to get everything balanced around vasari. well guess what your lrf sucks...its a cheap tier 1 pos. ofc it gets beat by illum. maybe if you'd just build some carriers (hey! guess what! they did drop the build rate penatly on carriers in 1.17/1.03!).

same thing with repulse, its about the only useful support cruiser ability advent have against vasari (shield bubble gets screwed by phase missiles) funny that the devs even made illums have less range than repulsion (hint hint).

who's sticking up for the tec anyway?

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the problem with balance is not that advent can beat vasari it is that they just clean house against every race because a well designed advent fleet is invincible. Argue if you want  but lrfs do not counter support cruisers and they are the only thing that can reach gardians. Vasari subverters do not reach gardians through repulse. with the power of flack and repulse illums can be protected from all SHips that were designed to counter them. Fighters, scouts, HCs, Flack, all are beaten by repulse beause they are pushed out of range. And since illums beat all other lrfs so well guardians+Illums+Flack=Invincible fleet. I dont only play Vasari i play all races. I have only played advent 10 out of 200+ games but i dislike playing them greatly. I find them too easy to win with that is because they have a fleet composition that is impossible to beat.

Maybe you should play online against people who play every game abusing this stratagy, or maybe you should play something other than advent because your arguments are without evidence, you sound like an illum spammer who is mad because people are trying to balance the game.

Reply #6 Top

I personally like the Advent, but I also love Vasari.  Given the above problems, I wish it to be balanced.  (Really, I only like the Advent because I love the models...)

 

And by the way, fix the name of this thread... Call it "Whinefest," not "Winefest."  It sounds like this is going to be about defeating an enemy on sins while drunk.  Fix it...

Reply #7 Top

yeah, i was expecting a nice bottle of Red with this post... =P

Reply #8 Top

Ill stick up for tec...

buff sova, and make akkan's level 1 colonizing ablity usefull plz.

:-p

 

but really... lmf's for all races work very well... lmf's+flack work even better... but an end game advent fleet on the defencive is just... not fun... repulse+10% shield mitigation+starbase with meteor control... not easy to beat.

however... end game advent do have weaknesses... if your vasari... that uber fleet cant be everywhere like you can... and if your tec... be dam carefull with that marza... cause you will need it.