Another Historical Day for Obama!

I used to think Jimmy Carter had the "worst President" title locked down, but Obama's starting to run away with it

Eh, it's all subjective.

You mean he can talk a leg off his telepropter.

Obama is purposely taking us right into the one world order.  We are so deep in the red, so deep in the hole there's no getting out of this.   People have no idea what's going on; going about their day as if everything is normal.  The other nations, like China are very worried.  We are hugely in debt to them.  There's really only one place we're headed...and that is a "changing" of our currency as we know it. 

We're heading right into a one world system where there will be a redistribution of wealth because the U.S. dollar will be worth nothing as we start on the next trillion. 

Think about this:  There is some big talk about rebuilding Babylon.  The U.S. State Dept has pledged $700,000 to get this started.  Why?  Why are we building the biggest American embassy ever on Iraq soil?  Here we are with our finances in the toilet yet we are giving Iraq $700,000 to rebuild Babylon which has laid in ruins for how many years?  The thought is  to restore this back to the days of the hanging gardens during King Nebuchadnezzer's day. 

For those who don't know, this is the place where the beginning of false worship first started (see Gen 11).  This is also known biblically as the seat of Satan.  God's city is Jerusalem, Satan's is Babylon. 

Get ready for some fireworks!  Thing's are a changing alright!

As opposed to *your* one world order? A la God and his crew?

Be well, ~Alderic

no, not opposed.  It's all the same thing.  So yes, God has shown us this is going to happen in his revealed word.  There's no stopping this.  The Christians have tried to put the brakes on this with their "agenda" but in all reality, it is what it is.  It's going to happen. 

Obama isn't working alone.  He's getting help.   So I'm not neccessarily sitting here blaming Obama.  He's just a pawn; a willing one, but still a pawn.  The best thing I can do for Obama is pray for him; that he sees the light before it's too late for him and his family. 

Yeah, see that's the thing...a one world order is still a one world order, no matter if it is your God's, or someone else's. Heh, no thanks chica.

Be well, ~Alderic

I'm not sure it is on purpose- I think the man is just taking direction from various people with no plan at all.  He just doesn't have a clue.  He spouts about how much the common man needs help, then prances off to a luau at the white house for all those "hard working" congressmen.  Sickening.

who is it that says to think of Obama as a President on training wheels? 

That about sums it up nicely. 

Now that Obama is crashing to earth like a meteor he is trying to ram through nationalized healthcare... get ready for dentistry without Novacaine comrade.

what's the hurry?  I think the whole reason to getting this a signed and done deal is to make sure no one really knows what a really bad idea it is. 

Quick....get it done! 

You know what's even more scary is that there has been some debate over whether Obama is even US born:

http://www.bestsyndication.com/?q=20080822_obama_us_citizenship.htm

Well, at least one of them actually does work hard.  I know because I've met him, his name is Mike Pence.

Sorry, what do exactly mean by the 'one world order'?

The book of Revelation in the Bible predicts the coming of a one world order headed by one man, who is later revealed to be the Antichrist.

By that I mean that independent nations will no longer exist.  The entire globe will answer to one person.

Jebus? Oh, no wait, it'll be Richard Dawkins with Christopher Hitchens as the pontif/false prophet. Muahahahaha. *evil grin* Oh right -->

Be well, ~Alderic

The deficit was not Obama's making alone - 8 years under president Bush left its mark in the deficit as well and it was very high already.

It is pretty one sided to blame Obama for the huge deficit alone, and your style is horribly prejudicial and polemic and you even seem to be gleefully proud of using that particular style. Demagogue comes to mind.

The financial crisis and high unemployment would have been a problem for any president, so don't pretend it is solelly the result of Obama's 7 month presidency. That it asurd

It's also hard to blame it all on Bush.  When taking economy in high school, it was stated in my textbook that most economic problems are the result of something done 8-10 years before, because the economy takes a long time to fully adjust to a policy change.

So, that would mean today's depression is at least partially Clinton's fault.  At any rate it makes sense to me.  The economics book also talked about some of Clinton's rather clever accounting policies.

Did you know that before he was in office, the Social Security system was fine?  What Clinton did was transfer the national debt all onto Social Security, then used the supposed "surplus" to try and bail it back out of the hole he put it in.

Well it is also stupid to sit there and act like Obama is innocent in this matter.  Just look at all the crap he's ramming through Congress these days - bailouts, universal health care, etc.  When it comes to economics, he's a nitwit.  I understand more just from taking high school economics, such as the obvious fact that a bailout wouldn't work for the auto industry, and that universal health care will be expensive.  Imagine that - it will be expensive, but nobody thought to consider that point.  I wonder where that money is going to come from?

I wasn't blaming everything on Bush, I stated that he also had a part in it. I didn't exculpate Obama completely either, I said that he wasn't alone to blame for todays crisis and deficit. It all has a long development behind it and it's absurd to pin it all on one person or expect one person to solve all problems. I find talk like "Obama produced the highest deficit in history" ridiculous, because it implies that before he took over everything was fine and that it was just his policy so far that skyrocketed the national debt.

I can tell you where the money will come from - from you.

What it all comes down to is what sort of society you want to have, and since there is a huge ideological devide between whomever is in power at the moment and the other side, the current administration will always produce complaints and envoke the anger and wrath of the other side. Have you noticed how split your nation really seems to be.. maybe you'll have another seccession war lol, the communist hippies in california and the vegetarian intellectual atheist liberals from the east coast against the meat and potatoe bible belt southern gun loving rednecks, who have the constitution right next to the bible.. Ahem, my imagination ran away for a moment here - and if the seperation took effect the liberals would controll both coasts, so that couldn't be in the interest of the rednecks - red vs blue american style could be in your future

When I was a kid, about 13-14 more than 30 years ago now I started to read about this and then later study it pretty thoroughly.  Yes, it's detailed mostly in the book of Revelation and Daniel as a future event but many bible expositors have written about this for years and years and years. 

But back in the 70's it wasn't even a feasible thing to discuss because it seemed almost impossible. Cash was the norm and the bible says that during the  One World Order that nobody will be able to buy or sell without the number of the beast?  How could that be back then?  Couldn't.  

The world was so large and unreachable in many places.  The cold war prevented us from traveling anywhere we wished as many countries were closed.  It was a big deal for Billy Graham to be able to penetrate these communist countries like he did.  I believe he was God's last prophet.  Nobody's ever done what Billy Graham was able to do.  Nobody.

Anyhow as the world has shrunk with travel and communications and the cold war now over, it's very doable just as was predicted more than 2,000 years now.  And with our economy fast going down the toilet it's very very likely we are now here.

In the book of Daniel, the King of Babylon had a dream of a statue.  Daniel interpreted the dream.  The statue represented the world powers that would take center stage one by one.  First there was Babylon under Nebuchadnezzer represented by the gold head.  Next the silver torso would be the Medio-Persia kingdom who would overthrow Babylon.  Then Greece represented by the belly of brass led by Alexander the Great would be the next world power.  The legs of Iron would represent Rome, who after the death of Alexander the Great, took over. 

The bottom of the statue were the ten toes made of iron and clay.  That's the one world order.  This will be a divided kingdom, partly strong and partly brittle (Daniel 2:41-42).  If you notice each metal got increasingly inferior as each kingdom will. 

That's what I'm talking about when I say NWO or OWO.  Now, how does Obamba fit in?  Listen to what he said in "The Audacity of Hope."

"When the world's sole superpower willingly restrains its power and abides by internationally agreed upon standards of conduct, it sends a message that these are rules worth following." 

When I said he's deliberately taking us down into the red I mean, purposefully.  He knows what he's doing folks. 

He's on a mission to make the U.S. subservient to a U.N. world government.   He's for globalization.  He's for global governance.  Basically it's just another way of saying NWO.  A one world government. 

In an article titled, "And Now for a World Government" published in 2008, Financial Times columnist Gideon Rachman stated that for the first time in his life, he believes the formation of some sort of world government is plausible.  Well how about that?  The secular people are now in line with what the bible and its interpretors have been saying for centuries. 

This world government, or NWO would involve much more than cooperation between nations.  There will be some sort of federal head, I'm thinking like what Daniel predicted, with 10 nations at the head backed by a body of laws.  The AC is somehow going to come out of this last kingdom in Daniel.  So coming out of this 10 nation federation will be a leader. 

Obama, while everyone is sleeping, is seeking to create a new international socialist order financed by global taxes on the American people. 

Obama, in a nutshell, desperately wants to put the U.S. under U.N. domination. 

So what we are heading into is some sort of NWO where the U.S. will lose their sovereignty and global governance under a socialist U.N.  My guess, going along with scriptures is that there will be some sort of 10 nation leadership governing all this.  This means that foreign law could very well supercede our Constitution and our Federal laws.  We will still be the U.S. and the other countries will still be there but we will all come under the umbrella of a Federal Head.  Sort of like our country is made up of 50 states.  These individual states can do what they want so long as they don't break our Federal laws.  It will be like that only all the countries of the world will operate under one Federal Head.   We are going into a place of no return right now. 

We voted for change.  We're going to get it.  Obama used the word "change."  Had he used the words "New World Order" do you think he would have been voted in? 

We all know that the bible repeatedly says that "God is patient."  Right?  Well we also know that Satan is in a hurry.  He's a mirror image of God.  So when I see all this happening, I know who's behind it.  Why the rush?  Because he's hurrying to implement his plan.  The sooner and faster he does the harder it is to turn back.  If they slowed down, took their time and checked this all out, it would be obvious just how bad all this is. 

Under Bush we had the lowest unemployment rate in a long time, maybe history, I'm not sure.  There was plenty of work and not enough workers to go around.  Remember?   Under Bush people were spending money left and right.  Under Bush the housing market was going thru the roof.  I know because that was in my line of work.  Houses were selling more than they listed for.  Under Bush, the stock market was booming and people were making money hand over fist.  We did.  We made lots of money. 

Then boom....all the sowing that the Clinton administration did with the whole Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac caught up with us. 

Remember it always takes time to reap what one sows. It doesn't happen overnight.  Could Bush have overturned some of Clinton's decisions?  Maybe.  Maybe that's where we can blame Bush.  Maybe Bush should have done more about shoring things up a bit.  Sort of like how Obama is undoing everything Bush put into place now. 

hmpf. You describe things under Bush like they were a virtual paradise, and that the bad bad Democrats are the sole blame for the current situation. It's a little too simplistic.

People were spening money that they didn't have - great thing, isn't it? Spend money you don't have which in turn works to create jobs to produce things you can by with money you don't have. Economy boomed in a soapbubble. My brother was living in Sacramento for a while and people tried to convince him to join the retail frenzy, guaranteed fast money! He is banker by trade and wouldn't go near it, said it was incredibly stupid to think that this system works in the long run. It couldn't have gone good forever, and it's not anybodys specific fault but an error in the system. It had to crash sooner or later. So blame unsathiable consumerism and everybody thinking they could make a lot of money in a hurry.

Well where am I wrong?  Aren't those things I wrote about true? 

Much of what you say I agree with Utemia.  But the fact of the matter is the Dems were/are responsible for most of this mess.  They have a spend it quick mentality.  Always have.  More and more programs and more and more spending. 

Your brother is cautious as is my husband who is a CPA.  We talked quite a bit years ago waiting for this day.  Because of it, little of the crash affected us except for the sale of our home which took longer than expected.   For the most part we were prepared.  Took our money out of the stock market just before it crashed and lost virtually very little except what was tied up in the IRA's. 

 What goes up, must come down.  Common sense.  That's what we're seeing.  But what the government now is doing is nothing more than making a mess of things.  Rather than just letting the market correct itself, they are making some really bad decisions putting us further and further in debt. 

Had there been more regulation beforehand, such a combustible bubble might have not developed in the first place and all the problems that are there now might have been avoided. Selfregulation doesn't really seem to work - didn't exactly that lead to the situation you have right now? Greed gets in the way of selfregulation with common sense, so the common sense has to come from somewhere else. I find that pretty logical. At least in the essential areas, because overregulation and bloated buerauocracy for everything has to be avoided.

It has to be possible to find the golden cut in there, the best compromise - not too much government control but no complete lack thereof. Difficult - no wonder people are are almost tearing each other appart as to what is essential and what isn't. But there is no dialogue at all to find that, everybody just wants their version accepted completely. I am centralist, have best of both.

Socialism operates on the principle that the government should control industry for the "good of all" because "greed inhibits harmony" or whatever.

History tells us that socialism doesn't ever work.

So I'm telling you that more government regulation is a very bad idea.

No.  Greed is the beauty behind the capitalist system - people want to make money.  If they don't self-regulate and use common sense, they won't make money, simple as that.

What we have now is as close to that "golden cut" as you're going to get.  The government doesn't need more control over our lives, if anything it needs less.  Government control doesn't make things better, it makes them worse.  Just look at price controls - the government tried those, and they definitely left teeth marks when they bit back.

Besides, think about what you're saying.  You want the government to have power over industry?  They can't effectively handle what they've got.  It's no big secret that the government is horridly inefficient.

Also, I would argue that regulation is exactly what causes depressions.  Just look at the one we're in now.  Had we decided not to bail out the auto industries, they would have been bankrupted six months to a year eariler.  Without regulation on mortgages and the housing industry bailout, the housing bubble would have already burst.  Instead of being stuck in a depression, we would have gone through a brief recession and would now be climbing out of it.  Instead we're stuck in a depression for who knows how much longer.