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DG Players: Tier 1, Tier 2, and Those to be Avoided

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DG Players: Tier 1, Tier 2, and Those to be Avoided

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This thread has been closed by pacov - a new thread has been created here:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/383615

 

Why create this thread?

Simply stated, the ladder is generally not the best depiction of skill, imho.  It GENERALLY tracks who plays the game the most and/or who acts like a jerk by cheating instead of who the most talented players are.  That's not to say that everyone high up in the ladder falls into this category.  So, if I were to put together my own ladder that indicated skill, I wonder how things would shake out.  Obvious hurdles being that many highly skilled individuals don't play each other.  So, this requires either the people that don't play together to play more together (my personal choice) or I have to rely from feedback from other players.

Your part if you want to participate

Who do you guys think are the best players in demigod today?  I understand that its a team game, but individual players do tend to stand out (and I also know that one great player can't guarantee a win if he has weak teammates, etc).  I'm happy to have everyone's feedback.  I'm not looking for people to jump in and flame. Just call out who you think is great or who you'd like to see fight.  Perhaps we'll get games going.  You want to flame and talk crap, your post will probably end up deleted. 

You can nominate anyone you want.  To keep this from being a list of who likes who, several individuals that are generally considered excellent at the game will moderate the list.  If those individuals generally agree, a player can be removed or promoted in the list.

I've decided on 4 categories of players and have provided descriptions of each.  Please recommend players along with the category you feel they fit in.

Tier 1 Demigod Players:

Realistically, its my belief that there are 10-30 players in this game that are tier 1 DG players (the best). Those players shine as individuals, generally with a wide variety of characters and do not depend on a specific team or teammate to do well.  They can play exceptionally in 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, 4v4, and 5v5.  These are players that do not cheat or desync games.  These are the people that you want on your team or you want to play against because you know you will get a good game.  Any player in this list or any other should currently be an active player.  

  • abuggeredhedgie/awuffleablehedgie
  • cowbuttzex
  • kalelsmx
  • GM-Janook
  • gm-magnus333
  • GM-Mcshane
  • GM-Mithrander
  • GM-NinkiCZ
  • GM-Renz0kuken
  • GM-Zen_God
  • Nomilarac
  • Orcun
  • OMG-pacov
  • Paulie Carbone
  • RAWRRRR
  • ThatGuyYoulove/ boxxy_Koush
  • trousersnake

Tier 2 Demigod Players:

These are players that don't quite currently fit into highest level of players, but are good players all the same.  Perhaps they require a specific team or can only do well in specific types of games (1v1, 2v2).  The bottom line is that they aren't quite as polished or versatile as the highest level players. 

  • 2nana
  • Alterschism 
  • Amazing_Hero (oak)
  • Archon_SAAR (regulus!)
  • Atma44x (torch bearer)
  • captnspaulding
  • Celmare
  • Darz4 (qot)
  • DD_Karebears
  • Epiphenomenon (beast)
  • Esuzu
  • eXXcentric
  • Grahf666
  • IamKira
  • _illuminati_
  • Iokke
  • irek1988/never-fuk-wit-a-oak
  • Jaws8you
  • Jona__
  • Jongalt26
  • Ke5trel
  • Kitty007
  • Kollecktir
  • Lethstang (oak + ub)
  • lifekatana
  • LuftBR
  • Maccilia
  • Naur (oak + da + reg)
  • Obiwhan
  • Ogham
  • peterdumptruck
  • prozombie
  • Shred_demon (demon assassin)
  • Soccer-mom
  • spooky_
  • STFNG
  • Teseer (tb)
  • Thundercles
  • xXxXxAchillesTGxXxX
  • Xynth
  • yeahneil
  • Zoahr

Tier 3 Demigod Players:

A third group (or list) would be everyone else. No need to list individuals...

Demigod Players that Should Be Avoided:

These would be specific individuals that clearly (and I mean clearly) cheat.  You don't get on this list unless I (pacov) am VERY convinced that you belong here.

  • AlienWarrior - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter confirmed by pacov.  As of 1/5/2010, this player has 34 wins and 0 losses and is ladder ranked 34.  I played a game with him in a 1v1 with him as the host.  After confirming that the player spoke English, I asked him if he would let the stats count if I beat him (there is currently a simple exploit that enables any host in a 1v1 game to make the game disappear if they don't want the stats to be kept - Also note that this player plays almost exclusively 1v1 games).  The player did not respond to my question.  As I began to tear down both sides of the player's base, he used the stat exploit and the game vanished as a result.  The player used this exploit with about 10 minutes left in the game.  Based on his stats and skill level (read: not highly skilled), this player is clearly exploiting the stat system.
  • PrizmSmurf - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter and poor sport confirmed by pacov on 4/1/2010.  After losing in a 2v2 matchup, PrizmSmurf said "I hope you die a long slow death of cancer.  I mean it."  Then said, "Bet you are going to enjoy watching me desync."  Then, just before the citadel went down, desynced the game. Based on his stats, he clearly does not desync games on a regular basis, but wishing cancer on someone because they beat you in a game and then committing the one offense in demigod that can get you banned (saying you are desycning then desyncing) is a bit over the top.  I suggest you avoid him. 
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Reply #1051 from Demigod Forums Top

Yea, he's good enough for tier 2. Him, magnus, and Ke5trel beat Renzo and I in like an 80 minute long game earlier; he played quite well.
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That game was brutal.

Reply #1052 from Stardock Forums Top

How come RAWRRRR has not been fixed yet?
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I've almost finished reviewing every post I've made for typos...

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Reply #1053 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting Ke5trel, reply 1051

Yea, he's good enough for tier 2. Him, magnus, and Ke5trel beat Renzo and I in like an 80 minute long game earlier; he played quite well.
That game was brutal.
End of Ke5trel's quote

It would have been much less brutal if I didn't die 3-4 times in the first 5 minutes being a noob.  I hate the feeling of not playing a game for a while and then playing it again and you are so much worse than you used to be.  worst.

 

Also capt whatever did very well, t2 at least imo.

Reply #1054 from Demigod Forums Top

LuftBR still needs to be added to tier 2.

Reply #1055 from Demigod Forums Top

And one and two and three and four.  And one and two and three and four!

 

 

The End.

 

Reply #1056 from Stardock Forums Top

I swear I added him recently... hmm... took me 2 tries to get the change to commit.  He's in tier 2 now. 

Reply #1057 from Demigod Forums Top

ivorgor should be good enough to be on that list. I don't know which Tier though, it's been so long since I've played with him.

Reply #1058 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting GM-NinkiCZ, reply 1057
ivorgor should be good enough to be on that list. I don't know which Tier though, it's been so long since I've played with him.
End of GM-NinkiCZ's quote

I have played with ivorgor in the past month several times and I was not impressed for the rep that this guy has/had. I would even question tier 2 with his preformance because people like Jaws8you, shred, kira are in this this tier and I don't think he is at there level.

Reply #1059 from Demigod Forums Top

^He plays UB well, but I think he's trying to vamp up his rook?

He definitely deserves credit for his determination though. He told me all these stories about how he'd play UB 600 times in a row and never get bored. He forced me to stick to rook just like he did.

Reply #1061 from Demigod Forums Top

ya achilles played better tonight than I recall from before.  I'd second Tier 2.

Reply #1063 from Demigod Forums Top

nominating thomas_t_p for the Avoid list.  Primarily only hosts 1v1's and has so many of the games with host dc.  I played against him and he was terrrrrible, yet he has 65% (losses whenever he joins anything other than his hosted 1v1's).  Feel free to play against him, but I wouldn't do it when he hosts.

Reply #1064 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting RAWRRRR, reply 1063
nominating thomas_t_p for the Avoid list.  Primarily only hosts 1v1's and has so many of the games with host dc.  I played against him and he was terrrrrible, yet he has 65% (losses whenever he joins anything other than his hosted 1v1's).  Feel free to play against him, but I wouldn't do it when he hosts.
End of RAWRRRR's quote

I can't view his game stats from here... what's his record like?  Any chance he just quits when he's whooped and isn't trying to exploit?  Someone else just posted about this guy in the hall of shame today or yesterday. 

Reply #1065 from Demigod Forums Top

Eh it's possible he's not trying to exploit I suppose.  He's 114 / 60, 65%.  I counted over 20 losses not from 1v1 and stopped counting.  If I see him hosting again I'll hop in and explain the issue again.  

Reply #1066 from Demigod Forums Top
Im pretty sure he IS trying to exploit. He was writing some stupid stuff the whole game like he knew, that he is going to win, no matter how badly he was losing. And the fact that he dc just before his cit was down is just another evidence, but well, i can be wrong ;)
Reply #1067 from Stardock Forums Top

Yeah - get a screen shot of some of the nonsense and I'll add him if you catch him in the act.  I only post people here that I am 100% sure are pulling BS.  Thanks for the extra info though. 

Reply #1068 from Demigod Forums Top

I would like to do some 2v2's with someone to see if I can get on the tier rated list.

 

The End.

Reply #1069 from Demigod Forums Top

Played a game on the same team with Zoahr last night that I think was all random.

GM-McShane87 Forces of Light Regulus 70 Lost
Soccer-Mom Forces of Light Rook 70 Lost
KALELsmX Forces of Light Regulus 55 Lost
Zoahr Forces of Darkness Queen of Thorns 145 Won
pacov Forces of Darkness Rook 105 Won
TrouserSnake69 Forces of Darkness Regulus 105 Won

He played exceptionally well as QoT.  As you can see, they had 2 regs and were spamming the hell out of us.  Anything less than exceptional play on his part would probably have resulted in a loss imo, so hats off to him.  The other team was on vent with trouser and me in another channel (no Zoahr in vent).  I wouldn't make a tier 1 recommendation based on one game, but I was impressed. 

Reply #1070 from Demigod Forums Top

Played a few games with Zoahr before my hiatus. I was impressed with him, and he certainly seemed like a good character, but he wasn't "top-notch". I remember him making this thread on the forums that complained no good players played Demigod anymore, then I beat him and said a few still did. :P He shrugged.

I got a chance to play with him again last night. I'll full-heartedly admit that I'm not as good as I was previously, but he was playing top-notch and he was playing quite well. I have a hard time saying "oh yeah he is tier 1" because our team was Oak - TB - DA against Rook - Erebus - Beast (Rook was KALEL). But I'd certainly like to play a few more games against him and see how he handles a stronger lineup of Demigods. 

Reply #1071 from Demigod Forums Top

I play with Z a lot, and we sometimes have disagreements over builds, for example his heaven's wrath UB lol.  But he always ports on time, leaves the mana flag to capture the XP flag which I love since a lot of people don't prioritize that.  Overall excellent map awareness and I'm always comfortable with him, as soon as he stops getting heaven's wrath with UB I'd recommend for tier 1. 

Reply #1072 from Demigod Forums Top

his da is sick.  I just remember playing a game with him as da and he was amazing with the swaps.  Also, ya... I can't stand the people who want to just hold mana lane and ignore mid.  You kill the creeps / cap mana flag, then go off and cap mid, and make it back to mana flag in time to recap it and kill the next wave.  Meh

Reply #1073 from Demigod Forums Top

Thanks Cow and Pacov for adding me to Tier 2 o/

Despite being Tier 2 this will not make me dont suck sometimes :D ...

jk, Thanks again, I really like playing with these guys on that list.

 

 

 

Reply #1074 from Demigod Forums Top

Xynth needs to be added to tier two! Can't believe he was over looked!

Reply #1075 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting Cowbuttzex, reply 1074
Xynth needs to be added to tier two! Can't believe he was over looked!
End of Cowbuttzex's quote

That is debatable.  He played strong with Oak in our 2 vs 2 today until he completely blew the game at the end by forcing me to port right to defend a portal against beast even after I told him in plenty of time, watch that one while I defended you (Queen) on the left.  Not only that after I died locking the right portal he just let the other one get taken.  Pretty sure any English speaking tier 2 player would've listened in that situation and not cost us the game.  Is he decent with anyone other then Oak?