Grim idk about the TEC but for the galactica you have to realise the TA gets a silly amount of fighters with a full compliment of cap ships and only a few cruisers i had 198 fighter squads the caps almost become redundant u end up pwning everything with fighters. SO they are very strong in the begining often time i find u will have to back out of a fight and repair and return. I think with the tec u can use the repair cruisers to sort that out though. TA are a nasty bunch.

I have discovered a strange bug when in a research pact with a freind playing my research all says it costs 0 everything yet it takes when i spend for it. i was playing cators he was playing TA on diplomacy version

If you have researched most of the Research Centers and Research complexes, for the Replicators, then your research cost will be zero.

Can you clarify what you mean?

its ok i dont beleive it was a bug just my misunderstanding of the research pact feature.

that makes sense too. what u said about cators

oh idk if it can be done but a suggestion for the cators set them so whenever a ship is built the replication function is not automatic make it so you have to set it so that it just doesnt build away and suck your fleet dry.

Is it normal when you play an 8 player game and make a computer player on the same team as you for them to instantly break the team and end the alliance as the game starts? That seems kind of silly to even bother to team up.. This doesnt have anything to do with locked teams does it?

That would be problematic for the AI Replicator/s, it/they wouldn't be able to replicate!

I know fleet management for the Replicators is a handful when you are in battle ... a different way of playing ...

Well that makes sense that the AI is too stupid to turn on and off autocast   Its not all that hard to adapt to the need to click off the replication so it doesnt suck your fleet points down.

Also i had heard of this program for dynamic fleet combat and i wanted to talk about this idk if you use it but with some frigates and some ships it makes sense. But there is a seriously stupid problem with the handling of capital ships they make these terribly wide sweeping turns, now i know most people say its because they have large mass and yadda yadda, but the fact its space has no inertia so essentially enough thrust and they could spin on a dime but i am more just ranting my main issue is. Often when i tell 2 cap ships to attack a target one of them will take the most retarded flight path thats totally unrealistic or fly right past a target when it gets close, now idk if this is due to this dynamic battle but its not only frustrating its really unrealistic. Is there a way to address how cap ships handle so they don't fly or move so unrealistically? I mean ive no  complaints about fighters they move fine so do cruisers and frigs but the cap ships they get spread apart they wont adjust course to where you tell them to go its like fighting with the navigator. Any ideas why this might be happening?

No this is not normal (for O & E) ... are you playing Diplomacy?

If you lock teams you can not make or break alliances among other things.

I use this option so rarely that I can't give a definite answer.

Not that familiar with it. I think SGI and Star Trek mod use it. I think it is for E & D where the frigates/capitals have fighter movement characteristics. Simple to do.

Have a look at.

https://forums.sinsofasolarempire.com/341567

The problem is I don't want to change the original races. Also, at this stage, its not in the development path of the Maelstrom mod.

cheers for the input i just played a intresting game its so nice how the computer who is your ally with 10 and on your team does absolutly nothing to aide you while your off in the corner fighting against 2 computers that are teamed up working against you it amazes me how stupid the AI can be in favor of itself but smart in teaming up against a player. I wanted to throw a rock at my teammate if for one minute that bastard would come send some ships to help instead of conquering his side of the galaxy and ignoring his team mate lol.

and yeah about the teammate bailing on me right off i was playing diplo all i play dont play anything else

You know that if you select a ship or fleet of your ally you can ping him for help, its not automatic. As I said I don't form alliances much in my games so you'll have to work out the exact details, if memory serves me right its straight forward once you know you have that option.

nah i didnt know that cheers m8 ill give that a look see if it makes my ire tword AI allies go away. But i tend to play on hard or impossible AI so i like a single ally on some maps.

I don't know if this minor (though problematic) bug has been addressed, however the EMP Debuff on the Norlamin Anti-Carrier Carrier (Slot 5) seems to be permanent, in that even after said ship has been destroyed and/or left your gravity well and persisting through game closing to reloading said debuff still persists.  In a rather funny fashion, I have an arsenal of "Galactica" class (Slot 2) Caps unable to launch said fighters/bombers.

As an aside, in the case of the Alliance, I have noticed an inability or unwillingness of the alliance fighters to target bombers. 

That said, I am finding this a quite enjoyable mod, with quirky balances, the generally week overall ships of the Norlamin being offset by excellent support and healing features and the overall frailty of the fleet being further offset by an ability to assimilate entire swaths of the enemy fleet or planetary defenses.  The only side so far I have found to be a bit under the others (at least when it is vs Vicious Level computer Cator or Norlamin opponents) are the Alliance, while they have an excellent economy (assuming you survive long enough to get it going) in both early and late game they are decisively inferior to their counterparts, whether it's due to the oompf (laymans for heavy firepower) of the Cator or the inevitable mass assimilations of the Norlamin, even "mass" producing replacements to replenish your lines has little ability to temper the inevitable slide backwards to your best defensive stronghold.

My 2c. Thank you again for this very enjoyable mod.

Odd, my avatar didn't show up!

There are 4 servers used to handle the forums and they don't all update at the same time.  So changes to your information on one can show up immediately or sometimes take an hour or even a day to show up on the others depending on when they resync low priority things (i.e. anything not an actual post).  You'll notice this happens a lot with the karma system.  It hasn't been that bad since the last round of updates though.

Shinkle1973 said in an earlier post this will fix the issue for your problem with the fighters.

Thanks for the feedback, I'll look into it.

I tend to agree with you ...

What I have noticed

1. The TA are the most likely AI Player to dominate (i.e early to mid game).

2. The AI, Replicators are least likely to dominate.

i.e not necessarily what you would expect.

Your early game observations are astute, the TA do seem to expand extraordinarily quickly (Vicious AI) and enjoy an early game lead until the Cator or Norlamin (Vicious AI) reach about mid game point technologically, at which point they are driven back and are typically knocked out shortly thereafter. 

As for the Cator, in a test game I allied with them (non-locked teams) with a TA and Norlamin (all Vicious AI's) as additional potential opponents.  As a test, I had the Cator mass their entire fleet around one of their planets adjacent to a pirate world, and proceeded to send five 40k/1000 point pirate waves after their planet (the sixth reached the AI critical mass point for withdrawing).  With a game lagging mass of warships engaged for nearly 45 minutes, some 60 Pirate maxed out capitals along with several hundred bombers, fighters, and nearly 350 total other pirate vessels the Cator ground the pirates into paste, while themselves taking very minimal casualties and without losing a single capital ship of their own.

Interestingly enough, a single pirate raid versus the TA, late game, maxed fleet/technology, (Vicious AI) was able to significantly reduce their fleet size, and a follow up raid dispersed the remainder and razed the planet. As a fair comparison I sent the pirates after a maxed out Norlamin fleet, one that was well over the cap with "captured" TA and Pirate vessels, after three successive waves the Norlamin retreated having suffered what seems to be only nominal losses.

Pirate forces in this mod add a decidedly interesting depth to each new match, left unchecked however they can lag down the game quite badly, something that has been an ongoing issue with Diplomacy in general.

Thanks,

>--Drache-->

Done and Done, thank you very much.

>--Drache-->

Brilliant idea and configuration, although during extended fights I find that the pirates expand in number exponentially faster than they decline as 2-4+ fully engaged NPC/PC economies can sustain a nigh constant stream of maximum point raids.  This is not a Mod issue, but rather a function of Diplomacy and that painful inefficiency of Sins in general, not to mention the worrisome 2g limit. 

As a note, I love the various movie/game musics that cycle and the great sound work in general, it's very immersive.

>--Drache-->

test is this working again? Yay i can post again grumble grumble i posted yesterday only to have a blank response then nothing for the whole day.

Anyways i wanted to comment on a post earlier about people speaking about their experiences with AI I find the the Norlamins tend to end up the strongest in all my AI games, The TA are quite strong alot of the times yes but out of the many games i have played since i aquired this mod i notice that 90% of the time in my games the norms tend to dominate hands down. Althought i notice this has alot to do with settings and whatnot and i often play on very hard settings. The ta tend to do well but by far the norms then TA then the cators in that order relative to AI.

I like the changes with the pirates but i tend to turn mine off latley though i have been turning them on again. In a recent game though when i defeated all the worlds i could find and the pirate stronghold they didnt show as defeated. Also there is a problem with multi star systems the pirates dont leave the one system they are in. is there a way to make them leave the one star system or use wormholes so that they are not only dangerous to the players in the same star system?

Oh and due to my anticipation is there a status update on the dreads in diplo? hows that coming? And what do we call you as your name is more of the title of your mod?

Yes, I noticed and couldn't reply to your blank post!

Yes, I'm not sure why the Replicators never dominate.

They had colonized a planet ... which become their new base, i.e you have to destroy all planets colonized by the pirates to knock them out of the game.

No, I don't know of anyway to do that. Their behaviour is hardcoded.

The Dreads have been integrated ... for about a week. I was think of releasing a beta (Entrenchment) so some players could test and give feedback. Currently moddling, updating planetary structures.

I prefer a incognito, as I would rather people focus on the mod and playing it ... as you might of noticed I don't give myself credits.

Maelstrom is as good a name as another.