Took the Wife to see the new Twilight

You poor bastard.  Anyway, it isn't JUST this movie teaching teenage girls to be whores.  It's TV, Music, Music Videos...you name it.  Same goes for teenage boys being punks.

I agree with the subtitle you posted (This thing is teaching teenage girls to be whores!!!) That was my exact though about Bella. No, I'm not into the whole vampire-love-story thing. My girlfriend convinced me to go see Eclipse at 3 AM on Tuesday Night/Wednesday Morning.

There's the thing...Bella isn't involved with two people...she's involved with a dead guy (vampire), and an animal (werewolf).  It would be like if some girl's BF died in a car accident or something, and then she started going out with a guy who was really bipolar with rage issues, but also has a cool charming side.  She could still love the dead guy (but he's dead, so he's kinda gone, and so she's suppose to move on), and she would really rethink how charming the animal guy is especially on his more rage-y days. 

I'm no fan of the Twilight Saga -- I dislike Bella, mainly because she's an effin' whiner.  I can't handle the Emo thing, it's annoying.  I want to back slap her into last week, give her a reason to mope around all the time.  She's got a father who loves her, transportation of her own, guys who like her, a nice place to live, enough food to eat...I know a TON of kids her age who don't have half of what she has and they're not all "tormented" by their life. 

As far as vampire sagas are concerned, I much prefer the True Blood/Sookie Stackhouse novels, and overall vampire movies, it's a toss up between Interview, Bram Stoker's Dracula, and Dracula 2000 (LOVE that kicker ending!). 

As for Edward...I agree with Po'Smedley on that one! https://www.wincustomize.com/explore/bootskins/1577/ 

My girlfriend hates the Twilight Saga Lucky me. I never read it or saw it, so I can't judge. The Fans are kind of annoying though. Anyway for anyone who wants to see some funny anti-twilight stuff, look here -

[I had to use tinyurl cause the name of the site is a little inappropriate]

Link: http://tinyurl.com/ygecphf

Preview of Link (if you don't trust me) - http://preview.tinyurl.com/ygecphf

More funny anti-twilight stuff:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1glNuQiE77E

I wish to echo the sentiment of "you poor bastard".

Apparently, the whole thing is pretty much a Mormon propaganda book. Mormon love triangles, Mormon beliefs in marriage and love etc etc.

Trust me, the first book / movie is super creepy in terms of the way the guy acts.

yah well i had to go see this piece of shit at 3am. and the first movie he stands over here while she sleeps and stalks her which is very very romantic don't you think? I swear the book and movie are just trash, no one should have to see it or read it.

 

What is this "I had to" crap?  I keep hearing this around work too.  "I had to go see Twilight."  "My girlfriend/wife made me take her."  All BS.

Take your testicles out of your girlfriend's/wife's purse and tell her you aren't going to waste hard earned money on that piece of crap movie.

 

Nut up or shut up.

I'm not saying you're wrong here, im just wondering how you can possibly know this?

   Should read... What is this "I Had to" crap?

Otherwise the response could be something like this....

"Oh yeah, I had to crap because the laxatives went right through me."

Yeah, I know, I'm no substitute for Jafo... but oh heck, I just couldn't resist using his spelling/diction emoticon.

Same here!  There was a time when I loved two women equally at the same time... no, not as in a threesome, but I felt the same way about them both, as in I would do anything i could to enrich their lives.   And I'm not talking relatives/wife/daughters here... just two very special women who meant the world to me.... and still do.  Thing is, this love is from the heart and doesn't necessarily entail anything sexual....

 

 

The Twilight movie vampires are not proper vampires. If you want to see a proper vampire rent "Let The Right One In" (The English dubbed version). There will be an American version coming up call "Let Me In." Its what vampires are suppose to be. Its not pleasant, especially considering what the vampire is.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Starkers, I literally laughed out loud--a lot!

I'd just like to clear up a misconception.  She's not a whore, she's a slut.  Whores charge for it, sluts give it away for free.

 

Yeah right, it is OK in your mind to have a 3 - some, but then you are bitching that the girls want the same and they dont kow the meanig of true love.

You cant make a conservative stand on how girls should behave and then proclaim a 3-some is alright. You are saying that loving one but sleeping with others is OK.

You are defeating yourself here.

 

 

The only logical reason I can think of to not be "slutty" is the possible spread of STD's. Other than health reasons it is merely a subjective debate about morality. Of course the psychological effect of early sexual activity is a partial concern, but I have yet to see any hard data on that either.

There are other reasons.... other than health concerns.   Trust!!!   Respect!!!  Honesty!!!

Monogamy is not purely a morality issue... it is also practical.  Human nature dictates that jealousy is a factor when a person feels they have to compete for the affections of another.... and jealousy can lead to violence... murder.  Thus it makes sense to remain monogamous... to avoid possible conflicts/crimes of passion.  In other words, you deny lust and eliminate/avoid sex in relationships other than with your spouse/boyfriend/girlfriend, etc, and you greatly reduce the risk of those trust, betrayal, jealousy issues. 

 

Actually, the way I read it, he was saying that a 3-some is fun, but it's not true love.

Yeah, I sort of read it that way also... though I don't know that threesomes are anything to write home about.

My one and only threesome was with me, myself and I... and to be honest, I don't think it was all it was cracked up to be. 

Yeah right, it is OK in your mind to have a 3 - some, but then you are bitching that the girls want the same and they dont kow the meanig of true love.

You cant make a conservative stand on how girls should behave and then proclaim a 3-some is alright. You are saying that loving one but sleeping with others is OK.

You are defeating yourself here.

 

From my experience hypocrisy IS a conservative attitude. 

 

Actually monogamy is not a human thing, in fact most mammals are not monogamous. They don't mate for life. Men, by nature, will try to have as many mates as possible to make sure their genes are passed on. Women tend to "nest". Even gay persons are the same in this manner.

Monogamy is a human thing, as a matter of fact.  While mammals may not be primarily monogamous, humans evolved beyond the primal instincts of the wild because they conflicted with the growth of law and order... civilisation.  Early primitive man may have given in to his carnal urges and sowed his wild oats anywhere and everywhere he could, but civilised man saw the error of those ways in a structured society.  For example, the wild a free copulation of one generation could affect the next generation, in that people wouldn't know who their brothers and sisters were.... and you know of the dangers of inbreeding within humans, don't you.

So yes, monogamy is a human thing, it became a necessity and is preferred because human emotions become to complicated otherwise.  Sure, some societies practice polygamy, but in most instances the women in multiple wives relationships are are subjugated and know no better because they have little or no access to education and have no knowledge of alternative societies/cultural beliefs

Please don't include me in that!  I don't feel the need to procreate whenever, where ever possible, and I would still be with my first wife if she hadn't found family life such a difficult prospect.  I've been remarried twice since then, but not to procreate, not to primarily exercise my carnal urges, and not to satisfy any lusting.  That's the trouble, see, too people many place too great an importance on sexual matters and neglect to look deeper, whereas I tend to look for companionship with mutual love, trust and respect, similar interests and the willingness to sacrifice personal wants to give as well as receive.  This does not mean that I have never been a sexual being.  I have been that, when appropriate and the feelings are mutual with the one I love, but I don't believe it is the be all and end all of a relationship.

Is this a moral thing?  To a point, perhaps, but it's more something I need to be to feel like a half decent human being.    There was a time in my youth when I'd "shag" myself silly because all my mates said that's what they were doing.  It was the done thing... and it was expected of me back then, and not just by my mates.  Even the girls expected that I should, but I can see now that there was no love and little respect, and now I am ashamed of my actions back then.  Yes, the girls may have wanted it, but it was still selfish and if I'd had any self respect, respect for them, I would have told them no.

You're a good man, Starkers.

A 3-some is quite alright as long as you don't "Love" two of the other parties involved. If you do, then someone will end up getting hurt, always happens. If you and someone you Love decide to do something with a 3rd person for "fun" and there are no emotions involved..well, I ...er..hear...that it can be quite nice.

Not that I'd know from personal experience or anything...LoL

Indeed it's all based on a subjective opinion. The morality of the matter is left to the individual. I know my wife is the only woman I Love, and the only man she Loves is me. That's all I really need to be happy.

 

After reading that, this comes to mind

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

I try to be.  I made a some mistakes in my time, but genuine mistakes do not a bad person make.  Fortunately, I grew out of the sleeping around thing by the time I was 19 - 20... though compared to the exploits of some I was almost an angel.  I met my first wife quite a few months before my 21st and from there on my attitude to life, love and sex changed, for the better, thankfully.   

Um, love doesn't have to be a factor for people to get hurt... not when humans are involved.  We have an uncanny knack of reading more into things than there is... or less into things than there is.  Either way, when people share something so intimate in a three-way scenario, the potential for hurt is there.

Um, same thing applies!  Jealousies can arise when a third person is introduced to something so intimate... and most often do, too frequently with hostile accusations a recriminations being exchanged.  When two people are in love, ALL others must be sexually excluded, even if/when they agree a threesome might be exciting.