please remove

"nothing remains original"
As soon as you modify anything you can say it isn't original anymore. I think that as long as something can be recognized as someone elses work you'll need permission. I myself am in doubt very much about an author that ported and modded a sysmetrix theme I did (without permission. It is very much recognizable..and I do not really like that. However, don't know if there are "legal" grounds to do anything (if I would undertake any actions which I won't)

If you're talking about using them for a starting point as far as image size and layout and you replace all the images with new ones, I don't see why you couldn't.
Although just re-coloring someone elses images wouldn't be right without permission.

There you go beating me to the punch again, pinchecl.

Thanks guys, To be clearer, It's the coding and the way someone has a skin set up is what I mean. I just want to use it as a starting point. All graphics would be different from original. I ask because a skin was booted from the GUIO for using Treetogs thunderstorm skin as a template. The author didn't change everything and it was booted.

That's the key, the 'not changing everything'.

Gee... i hope it's ok, since that's exactly how I got started.

Pinchecl.. email me about that skin, I'd be glad to check into it. If a skin is recognizable as modification of your work, you have every right to have it removed. Using a skin as a template is one thing, using another author's graphics is an entirely different matter.

Thank you Koasati. If you say it's ok then it must be.

each new wb I do is a "modification" of the last one I did, but the very first one was a "modification" of an existing skin

to my mind, it's just a nicer way to start a skin than having that awful blue luna all over my system - needless to say every single part of the original skin was made afresh, it was there merely as a more attractive framewrok than the default alternative

I do the same. I have one skin where I got some obscure settings just right, and have made each new skin since then based on that one. I did start off with the luna skin, but it was a real pain getting everything the way I wanted it.

I don't see a problem using someone else's skin for a template - providing all the images are replaced.

 

each new wb I do is a "modification" of the last one I did, but the very first one was a "modification" of an existing skin

Same here! Luna =

I find it hard to be creative when I use my last skin as a template. I have trouble seeing it as a blank template. I have come to see the luna default as a blank piece of paper. Maybe that will eventually change for me if I use one of my older skins. Does this sound familiar to anyone?

I ALWAYS use the luna skin to start. If I want to do something the way I saw it in an existing skin I just use the import feature. That way you can be sure that no spare parts of someone elses work ends up in your final product.

Same here knatzz

I'm only working on my second skin and I find it easier to use my first as a template. Probably only because I found the original naming scheme of the files to be confusing and renamed them all.

I'll probably always see luna as a blank canvas too. And trying to use a different skin as a template would probably give me a headache I do re-use alot of my own older stuff. ex: Re-configuring titlebar buttons can be a pain adding rollups and such which I always do, so I just import the set from my last skin and replace the graphics and do any adjustments from there. I hate the naming scheme too farkusmarkus, but I do almost all of my images without even looking at the default so it doesn't bother me that much, I just save as I go using my own naming scheme. Then I save the skin under a different name and all the old luna images are gone.