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The 2nd Demigod Community Tournament - Rules and Registration

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The 2nd Demigod Community Tournament - Rules and Registration

Pacov's Last Stand

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Welcome to the 2nd Demigod community tournament (Pacov's Last Stand) - rules and registration thread!   

UPDATE 1:  The scheduling thread has been opened.  Please head over there and post when you are available to play:  http://forums.impulsedriven.com/399006

UPDATE 2:  A new version of uberfix is available AND is required for the tournament.  Please see here and download/install:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/399037

UPDATE 3:  The RESULTS thread has been opened.  Please head over there to track your wins/losses/replays:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/399047

Update 4:  Registration is now closed.  Alternates are still allowed, but no new teams will be allowed to register at this point.

Update 5:  Added ventrilo (voice chat) server information for those of you that would like to use voice chat.  It also helps in finding people that are ready to play their matches!

Update 6:  The replay commentaries/discussions thread has been opened:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/399150.  Check this thread out for news on live streaming events during the tournament along with commentaries and video for some of the games in this tournament!

This thread will cover all of the relevant rules and registration information.  Please see below for all of the details.

The tournament began on 10/16/2010.  Please be aware that this tournament will not begin and end on 10/16/2010.  It will actually take several weeks to complete. 

Background 

In April 2010, we started our first community demigod tournament.  The tournament was 2v2 and certain demigod selections were restricted.  The tourney carried a crash prize donated by people in the community and was won by the two man team of zen_god and King_of_thorns.  For more details on that tourney, read up here: (http://forums.demigodthegame.com/380837). 

Tournament Format

  • The tournament will be played as a 3v3 round robin tournament.  Round robin simply means that there is no elimination outside of disqualification.  Your team will play each and every team.  
  • Each match in the tournament will consist of 3 total games. 
  • We will track every win and loss.  The team with the most wins is the winner of the round robin portion of our tournament.
  • After the round robin has concluded, the top 4 teams will battle it out elimination style in the best 2 out of 3 games. 

Tournament Rules

  • All matches will be played on cataract with default settings (the only exceptions being AI HP on Very High and AI Gold/XP on low). 
  • Each team will play 1 round on the light side, then 1 round on the dark side.  In the 3rd round, if each team has 1 win, the team that had the fastest win in game 1 or 2 gets to pick the side they want to be on.  If one team already has 2 wins, the team with no wins gets to pick the side they want to be on (keep in mind the following rule). 
  • The team that is on the dark side must pick their characters and ready up first.  Then the team on the light side gets to pick and the dark side does not have a chance to adjust their characters.
  • Players using oak may not use spirits to perform a citadel rush.  Any player doing this will have their entire team disqualified for that game giving a win to the opposing team. If you don't know what this terminology means, odds are you aren't citadel rushing with spirits. 
  • Players MUST form their own teams
  • One player from each game must report their stats in.  We will open up a tournament stat tracking thread after the tournament begins. 
  • To track your wins, you must do the following - post the replay at gamereplays.org.  If you have issues with gamereplays, upload the file to rapid share and provide us with a link.  One player from the winning team should do this for each and every match. 
  • Each team must complete a minimum of 2 matches (6 games) per week.  If there are extenuating circumstances, then the decision making panel will review them.  Failure to complete 2 matches per week will result in a disqualification for your team. 
  • ALL teams are required to use the version of the uberfix mod here:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/399037

Alternates

  • Each team is allowed to have exactly 1 alternate
  • The alternate must not be participating in the tournament (either directly registered for the tournament or on a duplicate account). If it is discovered that the alternate is a player that is already in the tournament, but using a different account, all of those matches will be forfeited.
  • The same alternate cannot be used by multiple teams
  • If a team wins a cash prize with an alternate on their team, that team must determine how they will handle the prize money.  The decision making panel has nothing to do with how you choose to split up the money.

Prize 

There will be a cash prize > $600.  Jongalt will be handling the collection of the money for this tournament.  We are discussing the prize money in this linked thread:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/398009.  We appreciate any contributions to the prize.  YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED TO PAY TO PLAY IN THIS TOURNEY. 

Here is how we will be splitting the winnings from the pot:

  • 10% goes to the team that wins the round robin
  • 50% of the balance goes to the winner of the playoffs
  • 25% of the balance goes to the 2nd place winner of the playoffs
  • 15% of the balance goes to the 3rd place winner of the playoffs
  • Participation raffle - 1 player from a team that has completed all of their games in the tournament will be entered into a random drawing after the tournament ends.  That player will receive a prize of $30 as incentive for finishing the tournament.  This money will be taken from the total cash pot before any other money is distributed by percentage.  Any player that has won a cash prize is NOT eligible for the participation raffle.

Demigod Selection

Each 3 man team must use the following formula to make their Demigod character selections based on a 7 point maximum.  Be aware that no duplicate demigods are permitted on the same team.  This means you cannot choose random.

  • Demon Assassin/Regulus - 1 point
  • Oculus/Queen of Thorns/Senda/Torch Bearer - 2 points
  • Lord Erebus/Oak/Rook/Unclean Beast - 3 points

Tournament Time Zone

The official time zone of the tournament is set for EST US time.  Players that are outside of that timezone are certainly welcome to play.  However, if there are significant scheduling difficulties due to players unable meet at the same time, the team furthest outside of the EST zone will most likely be disqualified or forfeit that match.  This rule does not excuse folks in the EST zone from any responsibility.  All parties in this tournament should endeavor to schedule their matches with other teams and try to be as flexible as possible. 

Decision Making Panel

This tournament will be governed by a decision making panel consisting of pacov, McShane, hedgie with Jongalt as an alternate.  The panel's purpose is as follows:

  • Review any scheduling issues and making the final decisions with regards to disqualification. 
  • Reviewing replays as required (crashes and desyncs)
  • Resolving any disputes that arise

The panel's decision on all matters will be the final word for this tournament. And last, the members of the decision making panel will not make any decisions on the games they are playing in.  We didn't have a panel in place for the first tournament and that was a mistake. 

How will we handle crashes

If there is a game crash, the players involved in that match should see if they can come to a consensus on the probable outcome of the match.  If there is no clear winner, the 2 teams should replay the match using the exact same demigods and sides (light/dark).  If there was a clear winner at that point in the game, then that team should be awarded the win.  If the 2 teams disagree on the outcome, then the decision making panel will review the replay of the match and render a decision.  Be aware that the decision making panel must agree that a specific team was going to win or the results will be thrown out and the match redone.  Please be thoughtful if you want the panel to review a match. 

How we will handle invalid game states

The lastgamereplay file is still created in the event of an invalid game state, so it is still possible to review the results of a match.  In the event of an invalid game state, players should attempt to resolve the issue exactly the same way as game crashes.  If you believe foul play occurred, submit the replay along with any screen shots, etc, as evidence and the decision making panel will review.  If there is a CLEAR consensus that a team is willingly triggering invalid game states, that team will be disqualified after a thorough review of the facts and will no longer be able to participate in the tournament.  If your game does crash, it might be advisable to take a screen shot of the crash as proof.  Be aware that we know invalid game states can occur without any sort of foul play, so please be mindful when submitting requests for review.

Current Teams:

  1. Soccermom, OMG_Zex, pacov
  2. Orcun, McShane, Defender
  3. beastmode, generalG, stiffyG
  4. IamKira, Mith, Zen_God
  5. bad daddy/chiefy/trousersnake
  6. jongalt/OMG_nomilarac/thundercles
  7. rwcupcrazy/pwnage_69/nojokes
  8. Iz_, Darz4, Darkliath
  9. Anneliese_the_Beserk/Udo_Juergins/Don_Doen
  10. Eltimes/Lols_SeaWolf/DreamCatcher
  11. OMG_jona__/4nana/kalel
  12. Nacelle, VulturePwns, LoCoJoK3R
  13. RobertMunch/FC-FuneralPortrait/DeadDemi
  14. Commando51, Rezzan, and T-Schert
  15. arkANG3L, swordguyj, and Firefromthesky
  16. brasher01/brokenstrong/beckad1(prozombe)
  17. Maxsteel32/Sebacoyl/Stilr
  18. Mortora/Nate_the_Great1992/SD_Zebrafox
  19. Bartleby/aberrator/nnnils\
  20. tsk-mandingo/ruiprsg_/kobzos

Registered Alternates:

Please be aware that other players are elligible to be an alternate based on the rules outlined in the alternates section.  I've simply left this list here so teams will know at least a few of the players that might be available as alternates. 

  1. busdude
  2. doggu
  3. gl-Spectre
  4. johnkout7
  5. jorune2112
  6. Kiamori
  7. OmicronLyrae
  8. Ouch-That-Hurts
  9. Renfri
  10. Rocchinho
  11. Taharos
  12. volen20

For any of you that would like to use it, we have a public ventrilo (voice chat) server that you are welcome to use for the tournament.  Even if you don't have a microphone, if only 1 person on your team does, it can be very useful to use voice chat (at least 11 of the registered teams will be using voice chat.  Why not you too?

Here's all of the info you need to get started:

Here is where you can download the client (its free): http://www.ventrilo.com/download.php

Here are instructions on how to use ventrilo to connect to a server:  http://www.ventrilo.com/setup.php

And here's the needed server info:

Server Name:  Lagwar's Ventrilo Server
Hostname:  oxygen.typefrag.com
Port: 50216

I have created some password protected channels for those of you that would like to use the server.  Scroll down until you see channel Oh My Demigod.  You will then see tournament channel 1/2/3.  The password for these channels are demigod.  Let me know if you have any questions. 

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Reply #751 from Demigod Forums Top

I was that one guy who jumped on as you were in the lobby. If no one else got on, at least it works. For whatever reason had to open link in a new tab, but that might have just been me.

Sins of a Solar Empire: Rebellion
Reply #754 from Demigod Forums Top

Pacov, please add

your-maker

perdobaal666

dark_satana

to the team list.

I'll add them to the tracking sheet as well.

 

 

Reply #755 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting 4Nana, reply 747
I don't think there should be a cutoff date.. also I think if a team falls apart, it shouldn't prohibit one of the people on that team who still wants to play to play as an alternate.  So.. for example.. say soccer and cow decided "fuck it.. I'd rather play SC2 and stop doin the tourney" .. you should still be allowed to be an alternate on another team after that point.
End of 4Nana's quote

 

Actually I agree with this.  I suggest that the team has to actually resign before becoming alternates though. 

I also suggest that anyone playing under alt-nicks / smurfs though will disqualify any teams they play with. 

Reply #756 from Demigod Forums Top

thanks McSHane, i fixed it now.

j

Reply #757 from Demigod Forums Top

will update the op in a bit. 

http://www.xfire.com/live_video/pacov/

Hosting a semi-high level live match right now.  Check it out.  We are testing the tech.  You will hear kalel/cheese/jona in vent.

Reply #758 from Demigod Forums Top

Are you going to create a page to schedule the matches, I know its a round robin, and all. But you said that we would need to try and schedule our matches, so should I just post on here that my team in available to play all day this Saturday, and look for a reply on this forum here? My team would like to play as many games this Saturday as we can. So I am just trying to figure out how to best set up these matches? I know that the registration closes Friday evening, and its only a day away.

Thanks

Reply #759 from Demigod Forums Top

hosting a tier 1 scrimmage match right now... live stream

CHECK IT OUT

Reply #760 from Demigod Forums Top

Pacov: Tried to join one of your lobbies with Uberfix 1.03 from the link above enabled and it said I couldn't. ???

Reply #761 from Demigod Forums Top

still going on live broadcast

Last game though

edit - live games over.  Hope whoever was checking them out enjoyed our nonsense :)

I'll review everything that was posted in this thread tomorrow morning and update appropriate.  Going to sleep now.  Thanks for the gg's fellas. 

Reply #762 from Demigod Forums Top

Are you going to create a page to schedule the matches
End of quote

and yes - we will do that.  will likely be posted tomorrow.

edit - there have been several complaints against user "your_maker" for harassment.  I personally have no intention of allowing him to participate in this tournament.  I'm fine with being overruled by the committee on this if they disagree, but I do know that ban requests have been made for this user to stardock.  Happy to hear any feedback from you folks on this one, but personally, my mind is made up. 

Reply #763 from Demigod Forums Top

was he already on a team?  If so, idk that it's fair to his teammates.  If he hadn't formed.. then I would agree.  Even if he was in a team.. I might be of a mind to agree.

Reply #764 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting 4Nana, reply 763
was he already on a team?  If so, idk that it's fair to his teammates.  If he hadn't formed.. then I would agree.  Even if he was in a team.. I might be of a mind to agree.
End of 4Nana's quote

He just registered via jongalt 3 hours before my response. 

edit - in other news, we did some testing on uberfix1.03RC yesterday... I don't think we will be using that version in the tournament.  It yielded some very "special" results.  For instance, an occ that can cast brain storm infinitely, and occ that randomly goes "invisible."  Anyway, we will likely just use uberfix 1.02 for the tourney as that build is completely stable. As its getting very close to the tournaments start, I'll add something to the op to make that clear once its decided, but to be certain, unless a modder shows up and can fix the code in short order, we will WON'T be using version 1.03 RC2. 

The live broadcasts were pretty much successful.  Granted, it wasn't the live commentary I had suggested doing, but the cool thing is that you could watch the game from a players point of view and listen in on the team voice chat - and there really wasn't a problem with regards to bandwidth for streaming via my connection. 

edit edit - bad daddy  - see this post regarding uberfix. 

Reply #765 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting BadDaddy8, reply 760
Pacov: Tried to join one of your lobbies with Uberfix 1.03 from the link above enabled and it said I couldn't. ???
End of BadDaddy8's quote

So I followed that link in the OP, extracted the files, made an UberFix file, put it in my mods folder and it showed up in my mod manager. I enabled it and still couldn't join your lobby. Previous versions of UberFix had a setup.exe, but I couldn't find that here. Forgive my noobish computer skills, but am I not doing this right? I might not be the only one who will run into this, which would really make the first few days of the tourney a waste.

PS: Probably not necessary, but wanted to make sure McShane and 4Nana knew that my, "You guys suck." in the lobby last night was blatant sarcasm. I was just kind of amazed that a mid-level player would drop from a lobby with you guys on his team, no matter what Dgs you were playing. Couldn't tell if you guys knew I was fooling around. Weird match that followed too. Didn't think we had a chance.

Reply #766 from Demigod Forums Top

I understand that a lot of people have had run-ins with your-maker.  I suggest allowing him to play in the tourney though.   I would rather not set a precedent for restricting people from playing nor assist in the increased animosity the restriction would create.    If he was known for cheating then it would be a different story. 

J

Reply #767 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting OMG_Jongalt26, reply 766
I understand that a lot of people have had run-ins with your-maker.  I suggest allowing him to play in the tourney though.   I would rather not set a precedent for restricting people from playing nor assist in the increased animosity the restriction would create.    If he was known for cheating then it would be a different story. 

J
End of OMG_Jongalt26's quote

I disagree.  I don't think its possible that this fellow's behavior would be any different than it typically is.  He goes out of his way to harass folks without any sort of provocation.  He tries to get people to desync games (the kind fellow was in my one my games on my team and said "if we all quit at the same time, we can cause the game to crash").  He joins games, waits for them to launch, and then just leaves so the game will have to be rehosted. I've seen nothing that implies he'd adhere to the tournament rules, likely being a huge frustration to any of the newer teams playing in the tourney.  If he's in the tournament, he'll likely harass any team that beats him and perhaps those that he beats as well.  In short, he'll have additional exposure with the same poor behavior, likely causing a more negative experience for anyone that comes across him.  So, either he's barred from the tournament and will just continue with his poor behavior until he's banned or he's in the tournament and will find more people to harass without provocation.  I'd say save anyone involved in the tournament some grief. 

Edit - I put up a thread for everyone to schedule matches, etc.  Please see here:  http://forums.impulsedriven.com/399006.  I'll update the OP with a link there as well.

Reply #768 from Demigod Forums Top

OK - I could use some help today if any of you are free to do some testing.  Last night, we learned that there are some issues with the latest version of the uberfix mod (uberfix 1.03RC2).  We have the option of using uberfix 1.02, which is a stable build; however, there are a few fixes from 1.03 that would be very beneficial to have in place.  So, I've created uberfix 1.021.  Basically, this is a copy of the stable 1.02 version, and I've added one bit of code from v1.03RC2 and recompiled.  This should be pretty stable and is ideally what I'd like to use in the tourney, but I need some folks to test.  If you are willing to help out, please do the following.

Uninstall previous versions of uberfix

  • Close Demigod (if open)
  • Navigate to either C:\Program Files (x86)\Stardock Games\Demigod\bindata\mods or C:\Program Files\Stardock Games\Demigod\bindata\mods
  • Delete any version of uberfix that you might have

Download the new uberfix 1.021 executable from here:  http://www.box.net/shared/j45yl4iv6u

Install the new executable

Launch Demigod

Click on the mod manager

Enable uberfix v1.021

Play some games with folks that also have this version installed.  If anyone joins your games without this exact version installed, the game will have a critical error. 

I do not need functionality testing.  I need stability testing.  So, if several of you could get together, all make sure you have only the version of the mod I uploaded installed, and play a game (3v3 is ideal, but any testing is appreciated), then that would help.  I did the functionality testing and the changes I added from 1.03 are working as designed.  Any/all help is appreciated.  Thanks!

 

 

Reply #769 from Demigod Forums Top

Can't wait to see some TBs! :D

Reply #770 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting OMG_pacov, reply 767

Quoting OMG_Jongalt26, reply 766I understand that a lot of people have had run-ins with your-maker.  I suggest allowing him to play in the tourney though.   I would rather not set a precedent for restricting people from playing nor assist in the increased animosity the restriction would create.    If he was known for cheating then it would be a different story. 

J
I disagree.  I don't think its possible that this fellow's behavior would be any different than it typically is.  He goes out of his way to harass folks without any sort of provocation.  He tries to get people to desync games (the kind fellow was in my one my games on my team and said "if we all quit at the same time, we can cause the game to crash").  He joins games, waits for them to launch, and then just leaves so the game will have to be rehosted. I've seen nothing that implies he'd adhere to the tournament rules, likely being a huge frustration to any of the newer teams playing in the tourney.  If he's in the tournament, he'll likely harass any team that beats him and perhaps those that he beats as well.  In short, he'll have additional exposure with the same poor behavior, likely causing a more negative experience for anyone that comes across him.  So, either he's barred from the tournament and will just continue with his poor behavior until he's banned or he's in the tournament and will find more people to harass without provocation.  I'd say save anyone involved in the tournament some grief. 
.
End of OMG_pacov's quote

I understand that and i've seen him do some goofball shit as well, like leaving a game right after it starts.  My problem is where do we stop the banning?  If we banned everyone that that acted like a jerk at some point then over half the players that are in the tourney would be banned.   I strongly recommend letting his team in the tourney, if they behave poorly then DQ them based on their actions and not assumptions.  I don't want to preclude that he will behave poorly, let's give him the opportunity to correct his negative behavior.  Teams could also not agree to play that him until the end of the tourney if they chose to do so. 

j

Reply #771 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting OMG_pacov, reply 764

Quoting 4Nana, reply 763was he already on a team?  If so, idk that it's fair to his teammates.  If he hadn't formed.. then I would agree.  Even if he was in a team.. I might be of a mind to agree.

He just registered via jongalt 3 hours before my response. 

edit - in other news, we did some testing on uberfix1.03RC yesterday... I don't think we will be using that version in the tournament.  It yielded some very "special" results.  For instance, an occ that can cast brain storm infinitely, and occ that randomly goes "invisible."  Anyway, we will likely just use uberfix 1.02 for the tourney as that build is completely stable. As its getting very close to the tournaments start, I'll add something to the op to make that clear once its decided, but to be certain, unless a modder shows up and can fix the code in short order, we will WON'T be using version 1.03 RC2. 

The live broadcasts were pretty much successful.  Granted, it wasn't the live commentary I had suggested doing, but the cool thing is that you could watch the game from a players point of view and listen in on the team voice chat - and there really wasn't a problem with regards to bandwidth for streaming via my connection. 

edit edit - bad daddy  - see this post regarding uberfix. 
End of OMG_pacov's quote

Umm... do not use 1.02. It will revert most of the changes from demigod 1.03. 

Reply #772 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting OMG_pacov, reply 6



Quoting OMG_ZEX,
reply 8
Goddammit that means I would have to practice DG again.....


nah - just lose
End of OMG_pacov's quote

 

look omg_pacov i have been told your nickname in game is cheesuscrusty

i had nothing personal vs u ,

we played a game toghether and we won

the next game i joined your game , and i was in your opposite team ,and my team was better , then u simply kicked me out your lobby like a piece of shit

i asked you why you do that in private and u told me it was because your friends want to join

i am realy am disapointed in you , but your not the only one i am disapointed in

Reply #773 from Demigod Forums Top

I didn't read what's going on here, but don't piss the wrong people off in an area you're interested in is my advice^^

Reply #774 from Stardock Forums Top

Well... the banning would begin and end with him.  We're not talking about someone that just had a frustrating game and mouths off a bit... this guys something altogether different.  He's pretty much stalking folks and even threatening harm.  He comes across to me as someone who is emotionally disturbed. 

Reply #775 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting BadDaddy8, reply 765

PS: Probably not necessary, but wanted to make sure McShane and 4Nana knew that my, "You guys suck." in the lobby last night was blatant sarcasm. I was just kind of amazed that a mid-level player would drop from a lobby with you guys on his team, no matter what Dgs you were playing. Couldn't tell if you guys knew I was fooling around. Weird match that followed too. Didn't think we had a chance.
End of BadDaddy8's quote

lol it's all good :P  iirc I played sucky that game anyway tho and blew it for my team, so it fit for that game!