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My first attempt for a Windowblinds skin

My first attempt for a Windowblinds skin

Ok as i said im on holiday this week so i have some time working on something diffrent...
This is my first attempt to build a skin what i´ve done so far is making a quick paper sketch to gather some ideas on how it should look what i will show here is not final, i will change it completely maybee.
I started with the tutorial from Vampothika sinze i have never used Skin Studio: you can find the tutorial here :
http://wiki.wincustomize.com/wiki/Skin_Studio_7:_The_Tutorial#Getting_Started
Im still working on the Startmenu and i must admit i didnt think it would take that many layers to get close to this.
I have to change some values for the shadows since im not quite pleased with the current result.
Also i will add some release valves and maybee a bit of steam not to much also i will try to get a more flowing connection beetween the background and the starmenu tab itself it still looks like it just hangs infront of all.

Tips are always welcome aswell as critic.


I found some time today to make a basic StartMenu what i have made so far looks like this:

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Reply #26 Top

Quoting Vampothika, reply 25
...anyway, for this section, make sure you have a plain colour background for a smooth and undetectable mouse over, otherwise you will see a block of colour everytime you mouse over that button, and its.
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Will that still be a problem for him if he skins the All Programs Mouseover image (Vista and Windows 7)?  I notice from his screen shot in post #18, that he must be on Windows 7 (can tell from the close button).

Reply #27 Top

i think it will, cause it still will have the mouse over colour no matter what os he is in.....

Reply #28 Top

Skinning the all prog mouseover image for Vista/Win7 will cancel out the mousover color.

Reply #29 Top

thanks Vampothika =) im trying to make any changes with the margins for 2 hours now with no effect maybee im just to dumb to understand them i dont know fact is im starting to hate them.
whenever i set the left  value for the bottom bar down to 0 and save it and apply the "skin" its missing out on the right side where the white pipe is.
setting the right value up in a positive value it shrinks.... setting the left in a positive things wont change at all until i reach 460 with the result that the white pipe is cutoff.Also is it even possible to work with negative values on those margins?
This whole margin thing totally frustrates me-Im going to be honest...  i hate it.

I have come across streched polygons in my life and fixed those, but this is a whole new category i simply cannot describe with words.

Edit: I changed the width of the top bar to be able to get bottom bar fully in, to achieve that i had to add values in margin that are negative -75466 i don’t know about that value  but that worked
I think i really need someone to help me with this margin stuff its driving me insane and i don’t get smart out of it.
Vampothika you mentioned there will be problems with the search bar in windows 7 ...just tested it and yes my startmenu collided with a truck again as soon as i type a letter in the box.

k10w3: I dont know if this is just me that doesnt get along with SkinStudio7 but when i try to make a wba backup like you said file make wba file ( for me its make wba package ( if i press it it opens a folder of skinstudio but it has no further option to change a name or press save/ also save as...only allows me to save the file in Skinstudio.but i guess that does the trick.

Reply #30 Top

I still need to do plenty of stuff but this is where iam at currently.

Reply #31 Top

Looks very promissing.
Nice to see some creativity.

:thumbsup:

Reply #32 Top

Keep an eye on the potential for 'confused' light-sources...aka shadows in the wrong places - make sure they all match [angle, offset, etc].

Other than that it looks like a Plumber's nightmare.....

....but fun...;)

Reply #33 Top

I have some sort of a problem i wanted to make an animated startbutton so ive used photoshop animation exporetet it into png pieces... so far so good... now back in skinstudio when i try to use the frame builder and save the file as .tga my animation doesnt overlap it runs sideways from right to left.
Did i miss something ? photshop animation shows just fine but after using frame builder its mesed up and i cant find a diffrent option there.

 

Reply #34 Top

Quoting Roloccolor, reply 33
I now back in skinstudio when i try to use the frame builder and save the file as .tga my animation doesnt overlap it runs sideways from right to left.
 
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This might be due to the wrong frame count, or the way you put them together.  It sometimes gets confusing because of the "focus and default" image, and where you need the animation to start and loop back to in the animation settings.

Follow the instructions in this tutorial and you should be good: https://forums.wincustomize.com/361485

Reply #35 Top

The tutorial is basically exactly what i have done only the image size is diffrent.
Just started a new dokument of the size of the tuorial - photoshop - play button everything fine.
Now importet all the png´s to framebuilder saved it. and again the same result only smaller in size.(I even put the grafik on the right side where voidcore´s startbutton is located :D

Reply #36 Top

Is there any chance you can send me the .wba file so I can take a look at it and see what might be happening?  My e-mail address is [email protected].

Reply #37 Top

I don't think there's a button for that.
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Actually there is k10w3 Go to edit, on top is the first undo. after that go down two lines and it will say step back. Same as undo.

Reply #38 Top

I don't think there's a button for that.
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Actually there is k10w3 Go to edit, on top is the first undo. after that go down two lines and it will say step back. Same as undo.

Reply #39 Top

Thanks, Uvah.   I'm going to stick with the keyboard shortcut, since I deal with those all the time in my regular job, anyway.  :)

Reply #40 Top

I´ve just send you the wba including the png´s extra.

Reply #41 Top

There are 27 frames -- when you imported them into SkinStudio, you didn't change the image count from the normal, which is 5, to 27, therefore skin studio took the whole strip and divided it into 5 images.  Also, when you put the images in the Glow section, you need to have 27 images, also, and you need to change the image count from 5 to 27.  Try that and see if you don't get a more satisfactory result. :)

Reply #42 Top

I fixed the start button to 27 frames for you and sent it back -- see it this is what you wanted it to do.

Reply #43 Top

EDIT: How did you do that? iam trying to fix this since this morning :D
Thank you so much!!!^_^   i tryd it on my wba.file and the outcome was that is was animating it from right to left.Also after setting image count to 27 it was still wabbling around.

Reply #44 Top

I'm not seeing what you're talking about -- it's going left to right.

Reply #45 Top

Quoting Roloccolor, reply 43
.Also after setting image count to 27 it was still wabbling around.
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I think it might have been wobbling around because in the animation section you had the animation stopping at frame 28, and there was no frame 28.

Reply #46 Top

I just compared the 2 wba´s the one you fixed shows a image size for the startbutton that is 1728x45 mine is 2800x50 did you resize it ?
Im just trying to figure out what i have done wrong :D . Edit : just importet the startbutton from the fix you send me and skinstudio is rejecting it whenever i insert it it jumps back to the standart button. I made the exact same changes, set image count to 27 animation start to 6 and end to 27 but its not working here on my pc.
Also im wondering why the image size is diffrent.  i should maybee reinstall Skinstudio.
Anyway thanks a lot you realy helped me today |-)  

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Reply #47 Top

I didn't resize them -- I just put them in the frames in the correct order.  It's a mystery to me what's happening on your end. :S

Reply #48 Top

thanks Vampothika im trying to make any changes with the margins for 2 hours now with no effect maybee im just to dumb to understand them i dont know fact is im starting to hate them.

whenever i set the left value for the bottom bar down to 0 and save it and apply the "skin" its missing out on the right side where the white pipe is.

setting the right value up in a positive value it shrinks.... setting the left in a positive things wont change at all until i reach 460 with the result that the white pipe is cutoff.Also is it even possible to work with negative values on those margins?

This whole margin thing totally frustrates me-Im going to be honest... i hate it.
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I said start from zero, and work from there, in other words change the painting margins slowly and reapply and check ect.

make sure you have changed the height and width of the bottom bar in extra settings in sk to the correct numbers of your skin.

oops about the mouse over colour karen, my bad, i think im getting more aloof with every new day xx

Reply #49 Top

Quoting k10w3, reply 46
I just compared the 2 wba´s the one you fixed shows a image size for the startbutton that is 1728x45 mine is 2800x50 did you resize it ?
Im just trying to figure out what i have done wrong  . Edit : just importet the startbutton from the fix you send me and skinstudio is rejecting it whenever i insert it it jumps back to the standart button. I made the exact same changes, set image count to 27 animation start to 6 and end to 27 but its not working here on my pc.
Also im wondering why the image size is diffrent.  i should maybee reinstall Skinstudio.
Anyway thanks a lot you realy helped me today  
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make sure the codex (code editor) says the same stuff in that area.

Reply #50 Top

My problems have gone i uninstalled skinstudio with an error yesterday via impulse, that already made me wonder.
With a fresh install over impulse i got an error code 207 or something when i tried to start skinstudio.
So i removed the registry keys via regedit: Made a reboot and since that its working, but its still am miracle to me that the tga from the skin i had send to k10w3 had a different size after it was returned via mail from k10w3 mine is still at 2800x50 while the size from k10w3 is 1728x45.
I tried to add it to the last saved wba, but then skinstudio switches to some different diamond button. The whole wba k10w3 send me works perfectly fine if i apply it.
But i cant export the tga and put it into an older backup wba.
Its strange and i don’t know what is causing that.
But i remade the startbutton had to resize it anyway - it was simply to small.
I took your advice to make a simple button for shutdown and so on.Made the buttons for the taskbar and shutdown i also made some small modifications to the overall startmenu look.
@ Jafo i also took your advice but its not that easy to fix since i didnt use photoshop shadows i removed them and made my own effects with clipping masks for each tiny thing :D... this first wba try already has a total including backups of 160mb +
I will try to get startmenu done first and then i will concentrate on some positioning of the taskbar.
Iam already exited to do the rest. But there is so much to do still, iam really trying to keep it simple and useable, but yet eye-catching.
The most important thing is that the fun overweight’s the frustration, i think after iam done i will have a different perspective for all the local skinners.
It is so complicated to keep everything in touch and its really way more work than i expected so at this point i want to say thanks to every windowblind skinner out there for so much free skins over the past years I now even more honor your work.And then again thank you all especially Vampothika and k10w3 I really appreciate your help.