Crae's world of skinning a look back

I highly recommend checking out Crae's insightful article at Tek. It looks back on the world of skinning in the past year:

http://www.teknidermy.net/article.php3?title=25&issue=6&volume=1

I really enjoyed the article. Though I disagree with the view that things look bleak.

But I can see where he's coming from. The skin community is rapidly approaching a cross roads. Actually, an on-ramp may be a better analogy. The release of Windows XP is likely to completely put skinning into the mainstream. This is an anathema to those who like to see it as a cottage industry. Indeed, those who see small developers like Stardock as a threat to the cottage industry are really going to be up in arms as the millions of newbie skinners jump in once XP opens their eyes.

How do we measure the success of a skinning community? Most old timers have an exagerated memory of skinz.org. That was a site I loved. But being friends with Mian and Toasty, I also knew their traffic. In terms of community activity, DeviantArt dwarfs skinz.org (in terms of postings). In terms of actual skins being downloaded per day, WinCustomize does vastly more downloads per day than skinz.org did at its height and rougly and equal amount of message board traffic (in posts per day). And these sites are able to do that without completely dominating the community as skinz.org did.

Of course, back then it was a much smaller community. Skinz.org was the first professionally run no nonsense skin site. For those of you who don't know Mian and Toasty, they are both truly gifted. They..get it. They have an uncanny business sense of knowing what they need to do. They don't innovate, but they see a concept and they make it better and one of the results of their professionalism was skinz.org.

And while it did dominate, it wasn't as popular as DeviantArt or WinCustomize are today. Skinz.org had a total of 100,000+ registered users when it went down after nearly 2 years of being up. WinCustomize got 40,000 new registered accounts last month alone.

A news item on DeviantArt can get hundreds of users participating in it. Something that never would have or could have happened on skinz.org.

So in terms of the quantity of users, the skin community is growing. Perhaps what Crae sees as bleak is the loosening of the community -- it's not tight knit anymore. It's more splintered...more diluted. That I would agree with.
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That's a part of it. In a melodramatic way. If you want to get something across, it's best to exaggerate a bit, make it more dramatic and such. Hence the "bleak".

What I see happening is skinning going mainstream. More people will start doing it, more people will use the skins and such. This'll mean that it will no longer be such a small circle of people making them as it used to be. That's the sad bit. Less exclusiveness, not so special anymore.

That's one part of the bleakness, the other part was the rapid demise of the big sites.

That article, by the way, was nothing more than the most important headlines of DevArt. One could see it as an argument in favour of a news archive on every (skins) site.
/me awaits the horde of fans chanting his name
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Well all I can say about melodrama is that skinning is going to destroy life as we know it!


There are various nightmarish ways to go mainstream. Go to www.ezthemes.com to see what I mean.
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Great article crae!!!!
....I'm not sure that I share your bleakness, but I really enjoyed the read. I think you looked back on the past year very well
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craeonics awaits the horde of fans chanting his name

/me chants "craeonics"
/me tries looking cute and appealing in the hope of an appreaciative crea giving out chocolate buiscuits
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following a new work policy, i am supposed to only make positive and supportive comments
/me mutters something unspeakable about management under breath

anyway, to try out this inivative idea, this is the perspective of a recent arrival. i have been chaising skins for over 2 years now, but only really emerged to comment with the birth of wincustomize.

from what i have seen since arriving, i would say that this place definetly has a comunity. if you read the board, then there are a few regulars, the occasional one off "please help" posts, and not a lot else.

so, what we seem to have is a core group of people with a common interest, dedicated to this interest, and building up a shared history. sounds like a good definition of a comunity to me

i cannot farely compare this to other places, but surely each place will be different? if you place a group of say 20 people in a room you would expect them to form sub groups, with only limited interaction between the groups.

so, using this analogy, if most "active" people were considered to be at skinz then they probably formed sub groups within skinz. so, with the "splintering" into seperate sites, some of the groups are probably only present at one site, giving the impression that the comunity has splintered. however, to what degree is this really true?

and for a positive spin, seperate groups developing seperate *styles*, with occasional cross-polination should lead to far faster evolution than one large homononious group, so therefore the future should be full of fun and exciting developments.

/me wonders if i can go back to being an embittered cynic now?
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'homononious'.....you know, maybe that is how it 'should' be spelled...so much more stylish....Spell checker
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/me eats the chocolate biscuits

chocolate? what chocolate?
perhaps JavaBrain knows where it is?