Go Newt!

Newt's been my guy for President all along. I would love to see him debate Obama!

Unfortunately, between lack of money and organization, he doesn't stand much of a chance at getting the nomination. 

I think Newt has too much baggage to win.  He talks a good game but his personal life doesn't really reflect it (if even a little bit of the press (ie hates women, adultry, check cashing scandal) and the info in his first wife's book (asked her for a divorce while she was in recovery at the hospital from cancer surgery, then wouldn't help pay the bills for his kids until she took him to court) is an indication of his true character).

However, I'd loooove to see him debate Obama.  Newt is a great orator.  But his personal house is not in order imo.

i'm truly shocked to discover you publicly calling for newt to venture once more into what  used to be called an "occasion of sin. 

especially a man so repulsed by his own promiscuity he's unable to admit his offenses against his god and the pain he caused his victims on his love of country? 

"There's no question at times of my life, partially driven by how passionately I felt about this country, that I worked far too hard and things happened in my life that were not appropriate."

should he be elected and find himself driven one more time into carnal immorality (not to mention parking along the way on some property owned by the citizens of this great land) will you not also be culpable for putting him in danger of eternal damnation? 

I agree Newt is a great debater, and would love to see him debate Obama.  But he has gone too mainstream for me.  I did not give Cain much of a chance, but things are looking different now!  I would love to see Cain go all the way.  His initiative and intelligence may just win the day!

I agree Doc.  I think Obama was elected partially for the novelty of having a "first" black president.

Because he didn't have any real governing experience, his color, the novelty, was all a lot of people could see.

With Herman Cain it is completely the opposite (at least for me).  Being black isn't a qualifier any more than a dis-qualifier.  It doesn't enter into the equation.  I look at his business acumen, like his stand on most issues, like his straight forward speaking, and ability to admit mistakes. 

If he's elected it won't be for novelty.

Yes, TOVA, it's true...Newt has plenty of personal baggage...and you're right....another reason why he probably won't win the nomination.

Yes, character counts.

Ha, you're not the only one who is shocked, that of the present field, I like Newt best for President.

Yes, Newt's sins became public. And yes, we can judge his behavior and as a result, decide not to vote for him.  But how do you know Newt is unable to admit his offenses against Almighty God? You can't read his heart or know the condition of his immortal soul. 

I saw Newt in an interview in which he was asked about the very things that Tova brought up and he said he had asked his ex-wife's forgiveness and she forgave him.

I'm thinking of Our Lord's prayer and the Sacrament of Confession. How do you know Newt hasn't made a perfect act of contrition and had his sins forgiven?

DRG,

How so?

Cain is not pro-life enough for me.  He doesn't understand that a baby in the womb conceived out of incest or rape is just as much of a baby as the one conceived otherwise.

Having said that,,,,any one of the GOP field will be better than Barack Hussein Obama.

I still like Newt.

Initiative and intelligence doesn't win elections. Money and organization does and Cain has neither.

If race doesn't enter the equation for you what makes you believe it was the deciding factor for others in the prior election?

As far as business acumen why do you consider this a plus for a presidential candidate? In what ways does being a business exec show ones ability to deal with foreign affairs or enforcing the laws of the land?

Straight forward speaking? Like when he said he would negotiate with terrorists and then backtracked and said he misunderstood the question. Or maybe calling himself prolife when his postion is actually prochoice?  That's not being straight forward in my book. He is straight forward about his lack of knowledge on foreign affairs though.

Don't get me wrong. I like Herman Cain and can see why he has been successful in business. I actually find him to be more likeable than every other candidate in the field. But likeability is not what gets my vote.

We'll agree to disagree then.  I have no problem with someone speaking and making mistakes.  I've listened to HC on the radio off and on for years.  I've heard him speak at length on abortion and on different aspects of terrorism. 

I don't agree with him on everything, but I like his plan...I like that he HAS A PLAN.  lol

Hmmm.  I'd say he has just about as much experience in foreign affairs as Obama did when he came to office.  HC will without doubt get the most savy people to work the state dept/dod....I doubt he was such a successful business man by micromanaging, or believing his own hype.

Running a successful business is about so much more than money.  It's about leading.  It's about understanding personal limitations and finding brilliant people to fill key spots.  I have a Master's Degree in government...literally (an MPA)....most of the things public administrators (which is what the President is, a public administrator) do, CEOs of large corporations do.  Granted, not everything...but you'd be surprised how strategy, methodology, etc is interchangeable.

And how many MPAs fill MBA positions in the corporate world.  (Almost all of my graduating class), and when beneficial to the local/state/fed gov, how many MBAs work in Gov.



Um, they told me.  There are letters to the editor every Sunday in the paper from disaffected one time Obama-bots....and they talk about the novelty of electing a black president. 





If one is running in the GOP, initiative and intelligence sure helps. If one is running in the Democrat party...you might be right!

With them the name on the ballot that has a "D" after it gets the vote. 

But that can change and it will change if enough people get behind him. Today, Herman Cain is leading big in the polls. Newt is 3rd! 

Sad and true.  But we have tried career politicians to no avail.  Would not it be nice to actually have a real world person for a change?

Cain does not have either, but he is learning and growing.  If he wins a couple of primaries, I think the people and cash will come to him.

Lula - I think his going mainstream is demonstrated by his demonizing of the Paul Ryan budget.  He tried to distort the Medicare provision and seemed to be echoing the Democrats.  While he has backtracked somewhat, the move made him appear to be more of a the "get along, go along" type than the problem solver we need.

It might not be so nice. I don't think people need to be career politicians but I do think some public service experience is beneficial if not essential.

One might argue from what "world" does Cain come from in the first place. Many people know that he was CEO of Godfathers Pizza. He turned that subsidiary around as an employee for Pillsbury and then stayed on as CEO when it was spun off. He has also been a lobbyist for the National Restaurant Association, a radio talk host, and currently sits on the boards of directors of a few corporations. He also runs his own media company through which he sells his books and does motivational speaking.

He has proven that he can fix problems within business and that is good however the corporate world and political world are two very different beasts. Cain was educated as a mathematician and made his way up the ladder using math to solve business problems. He obviously picked up other essential business skills along the way. The debate of his 9-9-9 plan is a good one. It shows that solving problems within the political world involves much more than simple math.

That is where his problem lies. He needs to win a couple of the first few to be more precise and he's had a few members of his campaign staff quit because he wouldn't listen to them on this issue. He seems to have corrected some of that problem as recent polls in Iowa may suggest but we shall see how that is countered. He does have some big monied interests behind him now, but certainly needs many more.

Okay, folks we have been talking about the messenger, but not the message, at least the one sent in this video.

What do you think? Agree with everything Newt said.,,and more importantly these things must be said, but they aren't becasue of the way the debates are set up.

I've just ordered Pat Buchanan's new book, "Suicide of a SuperPewer: Will America Survive to 2025?"

He writes about the crisis in the country even beyond the financial and gives us reasons to be truly concerned if America doesn't wake up and take action.

He gives us a prescription which in a nutshell is: End the welfare/warfare state, dismantle the empire, radically downsize government, rebuild the country's manufacturing sector, put a moratorium on immigration, and CURTAIL THE POWER OF THE COURTS, ESPECIALLY THE SUPREME COURT! He and Newt must be talking is all I can think of for they are on the same page here.   

I kinda remember Newt's reaction to the Ryan budget...that he wasn't all for it. But even so, I don't see him in the category of "going along, to get along".

I think Newt has a good handle on America's problems and realizes it's being driven into the ground and has the guts and the capability to problem solve, that is, get us out from under the rubble.

Me too. HC's 9-9-9 plan has definitely, finally got us all talking..the media, the politicians, and us. This is a good thing.

I personally am for some kind of flat tax. Everybody has to have some skin in the game.

This coddling the welfare state/entitlement mentality does no one real good in the long run. One of the latest Liberal proposals before Congress is for us taxpayers to pay for diapers for those mothers who work.

 http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/10/25/connecticut-pushes-washington-to-offer-free-diapers-to-poor-mothers/

How SO? Obama was on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee ,Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, and the Subcommittee for European Affairs. Certainly not extensive experience, but what exactly does Cain bring to the table in foreign affairs?

They are more than just mistakes. I call it the pandering game. I understand why they do it. It is difficult when the strategy is to grab the base for the primary and then "become a centrist" for the general election. My overall point is that I find him to be no more straightforward than some of the others. Straightforward to me is somebody like Ron Paul. Not somebody I plan on voting for but I don't think I have ever seen him change his position or use ambiguous language when stating his positions on issues.

However that is one place where my doubt lies. I usually look at a candidates website to see who their advisers are since many are usually rewarded with key posts within administrations. Not much substance on his site that's for sure.

That holds no sway for me. I've heard him too. I listen to a lot of political radio, its interesting and entertaining but any way you slice it, it is ALL propaganda.

Perhaps it is.  However, I don't believe one can give an opinion day after day for years on end and keep from revealing aspects of their character and beliefs.  Just reporting the news?  Sure.  But commentary?  Not so much. 

Different strokes I guess.  A website is not even on my list of things required by a future president, let alone the absence of which to judge him.

Hmm.  I haven't seen that at all.  I see a man who admits his mistakes.  Could it be that we've become so jaded that a little humility seems like pandering?

True.  I guess Obama's 300+ days of actual Senate time may have gotten him a brief glimpse at foreign affairs.  But I wouldn't qualify it as "experience."





If you check, Obama had neither---no business, executive, or foreign affairs experience when he first ran for Congress.

Good point Tova. I would add that as far as one's ability to deal wtih foreign affairs, Obama does have experience bowing to a Saudi king.    BARF!

I don't judge him on the absence of information on a website. The lack of information on his website simply gives me less information to judge him on, just as the lack of a record as a Governor or legislator gives me even less information than other candidates from which to judge him. If I can't judge him to a degree with which I find acceptable I simply won't vote for him.

Of course you wouldn't. Simply makes your bias more apparent. The reality is Obama now has more experience so when I go to the polls for the primary If I were to vote on foreign affairs experience alone I would probably choose Jon Huntsman. If I were to vote on character alone I would probably vote for Ron Paul. If I was a single-issue voter I would choose the candidate which supports that particular issue.

Most of my opinion of his character and beliefs is formed from listening to his radio show, However, Showbiz is showbiz. It's all about image and ratings.

I have seen him admit some mistakes. I applaud him for that. I have also seen him pandering. I personally don't feel jaded at all. I'm simply not blind to the difference between a mistake and pandering.

Unfortunately until this country has the ability to move Saudi Arabia off the necessary oil supply list there will be plenty of bowing going on whether you see it on camera or not.

We should get away from Saudi Arabia for our oil..the sooner the better, but as long as Obama is in charge, that won't happen. Another good reason he needs to get the boot.  

And now Cain is up to his ears fighting against allegations of sexual harrassment. We'll see how all that plays out.

Take a look at current data on world oil reserves,production, and consumption. Then you might actually understand USG foreign policy concerning Saudi Arabia, and many other countries as well.

I hope it isn't true.  But you know what?  It was almost 20 years ago...and unless something more recent shows up, I'm not likely to believe this is habitual.

Most of mine opinions were formed there as well.  (I've always hated his enunciation though! lol) 

Oh, well let me make it clear...I don't like Obama's leadership or apparent world view.  I am totally biased. In fact, ABO (anybody but obama) will likely get my vote next year.    

Ok my bad.  I misunderstood your comment.  Though wouldn't a website also just be "propaganda?"  I can't imagine they'd put up anything negative.