Ragnarov vs. Ankylon

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Ultimate offense vs. Ultimate defense. Who wins? Yea, I've read that the Ragnarov is the strongest in a 1v1 titan slugfest and that the Ankylon is underwhelming in terms of firepower, but it's just so incredibly tough to kill. So I opened up the dev version and pit them against each other.

 

Neutral territory, no culture

Rebels have all research minus Insurgency/artifacts

Loyalists have only Ankylon Prototypes

Ragnorav 10: 2 Scattershot/Overcharge, 4 Snipe/bottom passives, 4 bombers

Ankylon 10: 4 Furious Defense/Group Shield/bottom passives, 4 bombers

 

I don't know if this is a case of the weak countering the strong, or if the Ankylon just doesn't have much that can push it to its limits. All I know is the Ankylon actually beat the Ragnarov. It couldn't scratch Ragnarok while Furious Defense wasn't up, but with its health consistently being pushed to the activation point, the extra damage gave it just enough oomph to overcome Ragnarov's defenses. 

This is by no means a realistic battle, but the two were perfectly balanced for this outcome. If Ragnarov had been slightly weaker, Ankylon's Furious Defense may not have activated enough to overcome Ragnarov's armor. If it had been slightly stronger, Ankylon's Furious Defense/Group Shield may not have been enough to overcome Ragnarov's raw firepower. 

Ankylon 1 - Ragnarov 0

 

Star, no culture

Rebels have all research minus Insurgency/artifacts

Loyalists have only Ankylon Prototypes

Ragnorav 10: 2 Scattershot/Overcharge, 4 Snipe/bottom passives, 4 bombers

Ankylon 10: 4 Furious Defense/Group Shield/bottom passives, 4 bombers

 

The balance was tipped in this fight. The antimatter provided by the star meant Ragnarov could use Snipe much more frequently, and the shield restore boost meant Ankylon never got the chance to dent its hull. 

Ankylon 1 - Ragnarov 1

 

Star, no culture

Rebels have all research minus Insurgency/artifacts

Loyalists have all research minus Insurgency/artifacts

Ragnorav 10: 2 Scattershot/Overcharge, 4 Snipe/bottom passives, 4 bombers

Ankylon 10: 4 Furious Defense/Group Shield/bottom passives, 4 bombers

 

And the balance returns to the Loyalists. With extra armor, shielding, and firepower, Ankylon became too tough to overpower and strong enough to fight back

Ankylon 2 - Ragnarov 1

 

Neutral territory, no culture

Rebels have all research minus Insurgency/artifacts

Loyalists have all research minus Insurgency/artifacts

Ragnorav 10: 2 Scattershot/Overcharge, 4 Snipe/bottom passives, 4 bombers

Ankylon 10: 4 Furious Defense/Group Shield/bottom passives, 4 bombers

 

At this point, Ragnarov didn't have the firepower to overcome Ankylon's upgraded defenses, and Ankylon didn't have to fight a boosted shield restore rate. Ankylon's victory.

Ankylon 3 - Ragnarov 1

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Reply #1 from Sins Forums Top

As an early game titan, it is mediocre, and cannot  level up nearly as fast as the Ragnarov. At least it isn't as underpowered as I thought

Reply #2 from Sins Forums Top

This is by no means a realistic battle
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Reply #3 from Sins Forums Top

realistic battles always involve 4 titans in the middle lane... 

Reply #4 from Sins Forums Top

I trolled a troll successfully!!!

Reply #5 from Sins Forums Top

I think you are forgetting to test with supporting fleets. Also you only tried out one ability combo. Besides most games are over before two player have level 10 titans on the field with everything researched. Try with some level 5 ones with nothing researched. Its also important to remember that no Titan and TEC ones in particular is meant to act without a fleet. The Ankylon and Ragnarov are both support ships albeit on opposite ends of the spectrum. They are not battleships like Vasari titans nor are they flying autocast machines like the Advent titans. With Vasari or Advent I might consider sending my titan plus a few support ships on a seperates mission from my main fleet but with TEC you need to use them in support of a fleet. The TECs all about soft synergy and their titans reflect this.