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pacov's League of Legends general discussion thread - strategies, etc #3

pacov's League of Legends general discussion thread - strategies, etc #3

Update 5/25/2017

  • This thread is all done.  I've lost interest in jibba jibbing here, but its been fun.  Thanks for all the memories.  
  • I am streaming from time to time on twitch - generally just when I'm trying hard in ranked though.  If interested, you can check that out here:  https://www.twitch.tv/pacovdumptruck
 

Well, I started a thread back in Dec 2011 that’s seen a lot of activity (some 922,000 views over the course of a few years apparently...).  That thread had a good deal of tips/strategies/discussions about League of Legends from new and old players alike.  You can find the previous thread (now archived) here:  https://forums.joeuser.com/413863.  I think its time to start fresh with a new thread.

What’s this thread all about?
For those that followed the previous thread, the type of content you see here will be fairly consistent to what you are used to.  Please consider this a place to discuss LoL related content as you like.  I'll do the same and treat the thread as a blog as well where I talk about what’s going on with me in LoL.  Feel free to jump in and join the discussion if you like.

Quick background on me
I played a lot of Demigod as pacov/cheesuscrust. Back in August 2011, I started getting heavily involved in League of Legends, and folks from the community were kind enough to help me figure things out.  I play LoL most nights, stream, make videos and it’s my main gaming interest.

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Reply #1476 Top

TL vs C9 - support naut was pretty freaking good.  Mao + Naut + liss... oh my

Reply #1477 Top

Picks have kind of gone nuts all over the world, especially with this patch.  Urgot mid, Cho mid has appently been kind of a thing in China, Sion mid, Naut support.

Reply #1478 Top

And now a Zac...FAIL INCOMING.

Reply #1479 Top

oh they did a zac?  Did not see

Reply #1480 Top

Zac played in the LCS OP confirmed! Pacov way ahead of the meta!

Reply #1481 Top

Well, he was played by the worst jungler in the LCS, and is now 0-2.  So he has that going for him.

Reply #1482 Top

Cho mid is insanely strong, I'm glad whoever picked it in the LCS lost with it. Don't want that shit nerfed, LOL.

Reply #1483 Top

I have made it through what I am assuming a good chunk of the South Park game. It has its very hilarious moments if you are into disgusting humor (perfect fit for me). Dan's shit-in-his-mouth comment makes me think he might enjoy it too. Very much worth spending 10-15 dollars when its on sale and playing through it once although there is replay value there (difficulty settings, different classes to chose for your "kid", different companions to try). I don't think ill be playing through it twice though just because Ill have known the whole story.

Reply #1484 Top

Finished it! pretty great game. 

Reply #1485 Top

Also in the fantasy league it is now impossible for Tenzing to lose so if people could start gifting him mystery gifts that would be cool! 

GG WP everyone got my revenge on karl :D

Reply #1486 Top

Do I even have the guy on my pals list?  ign?

Reply #1487 Top

tenzing is his ign, formerly known as snipersbane.

Reply #1488 Top

patch 5.6 going live tomorrow morning. 

  • We may or may not see the champion mastery stuff - I doubt it.  Code will be included in this deployment, but its slated to be rolled out slowly per region. 
  • Skins for 4/1 are being loaded.  
  • new champ select music
  • urf ward skin
  • aatrox will get a buff to his r increasing blood well based on champs hit
  • bard buffs - still poop though
  • elise buffs - faster as spider and faster cocoon speed
  • eve buff- stealths faster as she levels - passive change - interesting - spells reduce cooldown on dark frenzy.
  • galio buff - lower cd on his e
  • irelia NERF - lower dmg on E
  • kat nerf - pretty minor but a nice hit to early - 510 hp from 560.  hp regen fropped to .9 from 1.57
  • lb hard nerfed - ap ratios lowered
  • noct ult cdr decreased early
  • ryze q buff - actually nice increase - +15 dmg at all levels
  • sej nerfed - lower % hp on W's aa
  • singed buff?  fling dmg lowered but added min 6% max health onto it.  stronger vs tanks anyway
  • sion nerf - E does 30% dmg instead of 50% on targets his after initial
  • rammus buf - q cheaper
  • veigar - buffed but still garbage
  • ziggs buff - mana cost on q down
  • zil - many buffs - nothing all that good
  • ATHENE'S GRAIL - nice buffs - mana regen bumped to 100% from 50% - passive gives 30% of max mana on kill assist (from 15%)
  • chalice price reduced from 1k to 900
Reply #1489 Top

what if he rejects our friend requests :P

Reply #1491 Top

also - the vision granted by the scuttler buff has been majorly nerfed - not sure the actual vision change (eg can u sneak into drag pit). Prob not, but worth checking out in a custom.

Reply #1492 Top

"Amendments: forgot to list Nunu and Zac. Imo they're both somewhere in the great/good range"

Foxdrop on his casual list of OP/Great/Good jungler tier list.

Reply #1493 Top

So I learned something that I can might be useful.  Any of you that play zac know he has a range indicator in a large cone shape for his long range jump.  Well, I stumbled upon this yesterday - it seems as if you can aim outside of the ranges of that cone and travel either left or right at nearly 90 degree angles.  This means you can have a higher level of control of where you hop.  Not sure if its reproducible (I did this a few times yesterday and it just dawned on me how the mechanic was working).  Anyway, I'll prob try this out today to confirm.  It just gives you a bit more flexibility.

 

Oh and the new xerath skin on pbe looks pretty good.  morgana got some visual effect updates that look pretty good.  Luden's echo was tweaked to make it much more visibile when it has proc'd.  and it looks like they are toying with some tank jungle specific nerfs... ><

Reply #1494 Top

lol nerfing tank junglers before we even know if they are good? Thanks riot.

Reply #1495 Top

well - they are toying w/ it on pbe.  lower hp on item - also toying w/ machette nerfs.  The hp nerf will prob happen. 

Reply #1496 Top

lol nerfing tank junglers before we even know if they are good? Thanks riot.

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umm... pretty sure we know that they are good (even if it was mostly only Sejuani who was truly oppressive). In any case, the jungle is similar in difficulty to Season 2 starting with the second clear if you go Trailblazer, but it's got a much higher gold income. And they got a bunch of new toys.

Reply #1497 Top

Well, Cinderhulk really is just better than the other jungle items right now.  I mean, you build it over the other items on anybody who can plausibly use it.

So, the smart thing to do would be reasonable Cinderhulk nerf and then small buffs to non Sejuani tier tank junglers.

But the problem is that tank junglers are really hard to balance because they are typically fairly strong in low ELO but weak in higher ELO.  I mean, Amumu would probably need a compensation buff in high ELO, but is super OP in low ELO because they don't know how to handle him there.  So it is really tricky.

So Riot will probably make a mess of it given how they usually handle jungle.  Double nerfs where you nerf a jungler and their favorite item like we see on Sejuani are how champions get essentially deleted from the game (see Warwick).

Reply #1498 Top

Sejauni is the only one that has seen any sort of reasonable play so saying all tank junglers are good is sort of rediculous. They should really leave it alone for a few patches after sejauni gets brought back down to earth. Id rather have 3-4 tanks become high tier then going back to the same old 4 junglers that are viable (vi, j4, lee, reksai) and currently we don't even know if there are any tank junglers (other than sejauni who IMO is just on par with them) that can compete with those 4.

Reply #1499 Top

Rek'Sai is the only one beating 50% out of those, most of the tank junglers are.  Sejuani isn't even the highest win rate jungler right now, Sion is.  I'd say the tanks are just fine with a minor nerf to an op item.

Reply #1500 Top

Sion isn't even a jungler.