Ideology Outreach 1 Pioneering issue

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  If you play a Prolific species, the colony ship you start has a full 5 billion people on it - which will place 10 billion on the destination.  Most planets can only hold 5 when colonised.  Suggest that the colony ship granted by this ideology only have 2.5 -3 billion in it (new colony modules have a 3 billion cap).  As it is, I added the 5 billion to my home planet while I waited for anew planet to colonize.

 This is also an issue with the 3rd idea (Prolific) in this tree = planets have a pop cap of 5 now, so adding 5 pop to every new colony will push it over the maximum pop every time.

 

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Reply #1 from GalCiv3 Forums Top

Thanks. :)

Reply #2 from GalCiv3 Forums Top

Just wanted to say a tested this as the Iridium Corporation today, and it doesn't work for them either.

My guess is that even if you were to reduce it to 2.5 pop, Prolific species would still bug out as that would still equal 5, plus min colony ship pop of 0.5, for a total of 5.5.[2.5 + 2.5 + 0.5 = 5.5 pop colony ship]

So 2.2 billion is the highest the ideology trait could grant and still potentially work for all factions(if that's even why it's broken).[2.2 + 2.2 + 0.5 = 4.9]

At that point the ideology trait seems quite weak, and may need to be buffed in other ways. Perhaps give new colonies an extra growth % modifier to help make up the difference.

Edit: Billion, not million.

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Reply #3 from GalCiv3 Forums Top

Wait-what. You say 5 million when the population cap is 5 billion ain't it. That is a thousand times as much isn't it.

Reply #4 from GalCiv3 Forums Top

Quoting Spark026, reply 2

At that point the ideology trait seems quite weak, and may need to be buffed in other ways. Perhaps give new colonies an extra growth % modifier to help make up the difference.

Edit: Billion, not million.
End of Spark026's quote

    One possibility would be to duplicate the Prolific trait, but this would give prolific species with this ideology triple population.  Another is to duplicate the Colonizer trait, a free building.

    However, I think a free building can be abused (free hyperion shrinker!).  I'd rather add +30 or +45 stored production to a new colony for the colonizer trait, and another +30 to +45 for this trait.  Most level 1 buildings are 30 production.  Being able to soil enrich + build on the first 2 turns would be nice, now that we can store production.  Would also remove the rush build bug with the colonizer trait (deleting the first building you place removed the rush).

 

Reply #5 from GalCiv3 Forums Top

Sorry to sidetrack, but since you mentioned Hyperion buildings, how/if/do they work?

I've built the one that's suppose to increase ship range, and it does nothing.

Do the others work? Just that planets shipyard, or on all shipyards? Wouldn't it have to affect all or the designer wouldn't let you make use of some of the bonuses...?

Really confused on how military buildings work...

Reply #6 from GalCiv3 Forums Top

Despite what the tooltips say, the Hyperion buildings affect all ships built on all planets, not just the planet they are built on.  As to whether they all actually give the bonus they claim I can't verify.  The one that increases ship capacity seems to.