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US is going to war tomarrow... dang...

US is going to war tomarrow... dang...

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Reply #1351 Top
@moshi:
you wrote: always good to keep the public in fear and something about terroroist stuff.

Even when 9/11 happened, I had no fear. I felt sad, but the reason for no fear was the fact I knew we had a kick but military to take care of Osama Bin Laden.

Terrorists don't scare me. Nuclear war dosen't scare me. Our government dosen't scare me. If I fear any of it then they already have won.

Fear is not a option.
Reply #1352 Top
Poor example, Paxx. I see French films (and other imported films) here in the US with subtitles. I prefer that to dubbed which destroys something of the film to me. Foreign films are distributed in the US, by the way. (Although like some small American films they may not make it to theaters all over the country, but usually the major cities at least.) It's not as if they're not ever shown here at all and whapp! American studios instead make an American version. Film studios remake lots of films, including previous American films. Which proves what in regards to your point? I think there's going to be yet another remake of King Kong. Was that a French classic? So in your view instead of making another vampire film, for example, American studios should only redistribute Nosferatu?

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Reply #1353 Top
Peter Jackson is directing the King Kong thing. If we are lucky he'll use Massive to write in hundreds of thousands of linux-crunched orc invaders and some really, really ticked-off trees...
Reply #1354 Top
Hey.... Lord of The Rings was an awesome film and still is.
Reply #1355 Top
I just watched a news spot with these reporters being driven out to the Saddam Airport and the country side, that could be Florida.

Hands down that could be Florida any day of the week.



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Reply #1356 Top
IP: I just saw a bit of a film clip where an ITN newscrew (Brit) was out and about outside the airport area and I guess shelling had started so they jumped in a trench with a bunch of Iraqi soldiers, camera still filming. The fight wasn't right there so they were just all huddling in a trench hoping nothing fell on top of them. After a while the ITN crew thought perhaps that wasn't the safest place to be (because of the shelling) and left.

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Reply #1357 Top
ummm, yeah. In a trench, with Iraqi troops... at Baghdad international airport. I think that would tie with 'Hong Kong emergency room' as the place I would least like to be.
Reply #1358 Top
That is the exact coverage I was speaking of, and it is an exact reflection of Florida, I defy anyone who is living here or who has lived here to dispute it. It is a freaking fact, and I ment nothing more than pointing out that specific fact. The roads and area leading up to that airport do look exactly like Florida...


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Reply #1359 Top
Maybe it *is* Florida. Isn't Nevada the moon?
Reply #1360 Top
Ah...so the war is, in fact, being staged on a Hollywood back-lot....and Bush is merely absconding with the funds to Majorca to live with Quintex boss Christopher Skase [don't ask]...
Reply #1361 Top
Jafo .... 'live' with Christopher Skase?
Perhaps that should read 'reside with Christopher Skase'!
We wish!
Of course ..... being around Pixie would be punishment enough!
MotoGP this weekend!

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Reply #1362 Top
Wom....will watch that....but next week I'm off to PI again for the V8s......tin-top bash-'em and crash-'ems....
Reply #1363 Top
people, people, people... the war is fake. its all a media lie so the president can win next year.
Reply #1364 Top
I can't make posts like bakerstreet can but I know how to be a critical thinker.

As I said before, if you have a argument or side then you should look for stuff that opposses you view so you can see what the other side is talking about and getting there information. You might learn something about your position and either strengthen it or weaken it.


paxx has made many good points and has strong convictions.

bakerstreet made points and backed up his remarks almost evry time while other shot out one liners and evidence that doesn't say much and over simplifies things.

then we have some military guys who feel that no matter what everybody says, the only reason why anybody has the freedom to speak is because they put there lives on the line to do so.


@shu, I liked the links you gave but one bothered me. While I do not trust the US government, I would much rather the US goverment be the oversear than the Taliban anyday.

At least the US government can be manuvered.


I leave with this thought:
Fine material that disproves your position and maybe you will find that you have a stronger position for it.
Reply #1365 Top
Saddam Hussein must be put down like a rabid dog along with his sons and anyone and everyone who supports him.
Civilian casualties are a sad fact of war.
Friendly fire casualties are also a fact of war.
Nobody said war was not going to affect many innocent people.
The fact remains.... call me callous, but certain unavoidable, very unpleasant incidents must be tolerated
during a deadly serious conflict such as this one.
I repeat.... Saddam Hussein and his insane, violent progeny and supporters must be PUT DOWN.


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Reply #1366 Top
Good idea joe. Bravo, I applaud you.
Reply #1367 Top
against it = for it.

that is what I ment to say.
Reply #1369 Top
only if it has resses peanut better in it and chocolate topping.
Reply #1370 Top
hmmmm... I want cookie dough in mine.


Who is going to start the Abortion thread? Abortion: Is it good or evil?


I know a good thread:
The new Bush Tax Plan.
Does it help everyone or just rich people?


I also like the color pink.
Reply #1372 Top
And I ain't starting any new threads. no one responds to mine unless they need someone to yell at. I'd really get yelled at with those subjects.
Reply #1373 Top
The reason we are still arguing about this just proves that it is not a simlpe question. I don't think anybody is black and white on this. I don't think anybody is 100% sure that this war is just, or 100% that this war isn't. I actually think there are probably a great number of people that sway between opinions almost every day. I think it's normal.

Listen, nobody can argue that Saddam Hussein is a tyran. Nobody can be pro-Saddam. On the other hand, this is not the 1991 war, or Afganistan. Nobody has been attacked. There is no clear reason for this war. The reasons cited for it don't quite cut it for everybody. Saddam has dangerous weapons? Some can argue that the UN inspectors were doing a good job and should have been given more time. A lot of people said that war should be the last resort and that everything had NOT been tried to avoid it. Saddam is a tyran? Everybody agrees with this, but there are at least a dozen other such dictators in the World, so why specificaly this one more than another?

Sure Saddam Hussein in a cruel man. But the problem is that there are too many questions, too many doubts. The motives for this war are nothing obvious and that why countries and people are divided on it.

One thing I find interesting about Al-Jazera. Did you know that while America considered them Pro-Saddam, the arabs thought they were actually too much Pro-American? That's why they were quite happy with the job they were doing, convinced that the fact that both parties thought they were unfair proved that they were doing a very good job taking no side.
Reply #1375 Top
paxx, I noted a very interesting thought recently.
While many people think in terms of black and white, the world is full of grey tones .... but if you add more white to the grey you still only get more grey .... a bit obtuse but it bears thought!
Jam, there is no such thing as "friendly fire" .... it still kills who ever gets hit. >

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