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Download copyright music = Fry your pc

Download copyright music = Fry your pc

"WASHINGTON (AP) -- Illegally download copyright music from the Internet once, or even twice, and you get a warning. Do it a third time, and your computer gets destroyed.

That's the suggestion made by the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee at a Tuesday hearing on copyright abuse, reflecting a growing frustration in Congress over failure of the technology and entertainment industries to protect copyrights in a digital age.

The surprise statement by Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, that he favors developing technology to remotely destroy computers used for illegal downloads represents a dramatic escalation in the increasingly contentious rhetoric over pirated music.

I'm interested," Hatch interrupted. He said damaging someone's computer "may be the only way you can teach somebody about copyrights.

If we can find some way to do this without destroying their machines, we'd be interested in hearing about that," Hatch said. "If that's the only way, then I'm all for destroying their machines. If you have a few hundred thousand of those, I think people would realize" the seriousness of their actions"




Full story
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/TECH/internet/06/18/download.music.ap/



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Reply #51 Top
Actually it quite easy:1. shut down the main Kazaa website2. pull all the download links from places like zdnetAfter all that, only people with Kazaa now would be able to keep using it but No new members....
If that happened, what would stop the ppl that have Kazaa from emailing it or burning the prog to a disc and then distributing it that way? And besides, Kazaa had MILLIONS of members, so removing the home page and download sites wouldnt help a whole lot.

Reply #52 Top
I finally got the quote button to work!
Reply #53 Top
i think "cut the head off and two more grow in its place" is the proper quote here....

need we forget the opennap network that CAN'T be shut down?
Reply #54 Top

I know of one computer that was remotely 'fried'...inescapably....by a certain 'big brother' type.....it's not a matter of it 'can' be done, but it 'has' been done.

There are two real 'issues' with this being implimented....firstly attacking people's computers in other countries could be construed as an 'act of war'....and secondly, there are more 'clever/inventive' minds amongst hackers outside the US Govt than inside so it is equally likely that a reciprocal 'zap' could end up in place....the Govt gets a few 'baddies' before it gets 'got' itself...

Reply #55 Top
I know of one computer that was remotely 'fried'...inescapably....by a certain 'big brother' type.....it's not a matter of it 'can' be done, but it 'has' been done.


Proof please.
You may be a mod, but not immune from my questioning.
Reply #56 Top

Doomgaze....sorry, but no....

I also know of a few virii that were capable of physical hardware damage....either pickling the Cmos chip often requiring a replacement MoBo [some chips being too difficult to obtain as replacement] or another causing erratic/frantic HD writing culminating in head-crashing and platter damage...drive ending up unreadable...

Reply #57 Top
Then I call you on it.

Bull.
Reply #58 Top
No...it's not bull and 'calling me on it' will get you exactly nowhere. Just call it a 'legal' issue.
Reply #59 Top
I don't think the record companies care if our computers are destroyed or not as long as they can stop us from copying their music or obtaining it for free. The new copy protection technology for CDs causes PCs and Macs to lock up and force the user to do a manual reboot. The record company doesn't care if the user only wants to listen then gets his PC screwed up because he was not aware that his CD was encoded with copy protection.
Reply #60 Top
hey tech cat... I had that happen once
Reply #61 Top
The new copy protection technology for CDs causes PCs and Macs to lock up and force the user to do a manual reboot.


Direct raw rips aren't stopped by copy protection that they use.

I have YET to not be able to rip a cd.

Its nice being able to carry around 10+ full cd's worth of music in a unit the size of a wallet
Reply #62 Top
Direct raw rips aren't stopped by copy protection that they use.I have YET to not be able to rip a cd.


It sounds like the only thing the anti-copy code prevents is playability on a PC or Mac.



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Reply #63 Top
I have YET to not be able to rip a cd.


try copying red alert 2. I did so i could have a backup. there are files on the original that can not be coptied.
Reply #65 Top
In January we started to run out of hard drive space on our main server. So we invested in an additional drive on which we could put user's folders only. I never finished the transfer due to my illness, but started again last week. I was transferring a user's folder, and, you can imagine my suprise at seeing the server spend 20mins moving mp3 files

It turns out some 5% of our disk space is taken up by mp3 files. Needless to say the files have been deleted and the person responsible reprimanded. What no-one could answer was how much work time was spent downloading the things... >
Reply #66 Top
Here is irony for you

http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,59305,00.html

Well that didn't seem to work

Try to cut and paste this

www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,59305,00.html
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Reply #68 Top
Haha, thats classic pictoratus.
Reply #69 Top
Funny link.

If Orin Hatch's proposal ever gets passed, I suggest that everyone with an older PC they don't care about go online and download Orin Hatch MP3s to stick it to the man.
Reply #70 Top
hmmmm...

Interesting. I have said to myself and anyone who would listen that the music indrustry can come up with new ways to sell CD's. They also know APPLE is doing very well with the doanload music for 99 cents.

Also if they look at on pitucular high money making (and growing even in the slump up until 2002) sector of music, they will notice that there are allot of freebees that hit the street to start a buzz, mixtapes of songs spread the word, get the acts proformance gigs (beofre they even drop an album) and only increases sales once the official music is released.

As with any business they want to control the source of thier income, but i believe that for the most part the real reason why it is taking so long for them to turn around the indrustry is because of all the fragments and sub contracts that needs to be signed and people paid off just to get the song on the net.




And as for the downloaders, they are not helping anybody except themselves and they know it. The excuse of it should be free and its just one song is not worth the air it uses to speak the sentence.


I said it before and I'll say it again, I'm tired of both the music indrustry and the downloaders.
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Reply #71 Top
try copying red alert 2. I did so i could have a backup. there are files on the original that can not be coptied.


not like every cd copy protection scheme hasn't been broken already...

ever heard of an ISO?
Reply #72 Top
Orrin hatch is just upset because nobody on kazaa is trading his music.(can you imagine if this were standard procedure for any violation of the law?"look that man ran 3 red lights in a row,best shoot the tires out!")The only solution that would work that i can see is if someone can prove you have illegal or unlicensed content on your pc is they have the right to extract it.I've seen this done and no damage was done to the computer.
Reply #73 Top
If they really want to get nasty about,identify the offending material and render it unusable AND undeletable without a reformat.Then they would sit around taking up hardrive space.I personally dont give durn about the recording industry.I'm old enough that little new music has much appeal to me.I've bought multiple copies of 8tracks,cassettes,vinyl and cds.If you damage or lose a cd do they offer you a replacement copy at a reduced price?No!Software companies do.Next format will likely be chip based.Am i expected to go and replace my collection?I'm a musician myself so i sympathize with the artist but the riaa can go to hell.If they stand a chance of making online music purchases work they need to make custom compilations available.I'm not buying another cd just to get 2 or 3 songs i like.And even 99 cents per song is still too high.
Reply #74 Top
Not sure about 99 cents being too high for one song. I think its the right price for many new songs.

Now for 10 year old songs I am not sure.

The songs you migh be looking for could be on one of the current downloadables, but most likely it is stuck in lawyers limbo because of the multipul signitures and releases to get it on line for sale.
Reply #75 Top
never happen...

Government PC's and Mac's would be frizzing around the globe...

really, really