A Strong Case AGAINST Divorce

A little epiphany I had today branched off from something I've been mindful of for a while: concentrating on NOT being selfish like my mother was.

In search of greener pastures for herself, she divorced my dad in 1983. She was 30. It wasn’t long before she had a revolving door of boyfriends. She was a wild lady. Going out every weekend, inviting boyfriends to the house, sex, and her last boyfriend introduced her to marijuana. She’d been so clean-cut until then.

Then her health caved in on her. At 32, she became permanently debilitated from complications stemming from ulcerative colitis. Her boyfriend of the moment left her when she suffered a stroke. And she died in the hospital.

But…wait! Thanks to modern medicine, the doctors were able to revive her, although she had to be on life support for a while. She re-emerged victoriously, even though she’s now permanently paralyzed over half of her body. She gradually regained most of her mental capacities. I dare say that she’s gained all of her mental capacities although it was really iffy for many years. She’s also comparatively guileless now. For the last several years she's been fairly easy to talk to, albeit within the small scope of her interests.

She's certainly regained a sense of purpose in life. "My purpose,” she’ll tell you, “is to help people. I feel it right here," she says as she thumps her one functioning hand over her heart. Curiously, she emerged from her death experience with a profound love for Jesus Christ, and a desire to do his work however she can. That was a new side to her I'd never seen before her illness. She was baptized in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints a few years back, but soon afterwards she decided that she didn't like those Mormons visiting her all the time. She makes sure nowadays that she has no part in it. That's certainly her prerogative. It doesn't change how glad I am that she's happy.

One of the two times she saw my dad since all of this happened, she confessed to him, “I still love you.” My dad was silent, he did well at hiding the repugnant feeling that her comment gave him, but I knew him well enough to see how he felt. How could he ever imagine loving a paraplegic in a wheelchair, who eats like an animal, drools like a baby, and has a colostomy bag hanging outside her body? This wasn’t the woman he’d married; this wasn’t even the woman who’d divorced him. He’d known a beautiful, slender, lady with spunk.

Now, thinking back to when my mom divorced him, it's hankering to think what might have been if she’d only decided to stick it out instead. I hope that my dad would have developed compassion and a love for her that’s more than skin deep, by caring for her through her infirmities. Seeing this, my brother & I would have grown big hearts by seeing their love and unselfishness in action. And my dad, who committed suicide largely out of loneliness, wouldn't have come to that end after all. He could have had a rich, happy ending…he’d still be here today, living, learning, growing, loving.

I, myself, have often fantasized about leaving my doting husband in search of greener pastures….but you know what? There are no greener pastures for me. The greenest pastures for me can only be found by improving myself rather than trying to find someone else who matches my fantasy. Our marriage will grow richer and stronger as we both strive upwards...together, and in the same direction. I'm not going to run away.
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I think there is a greener pasture for everyone out there. But it's our own sense of character-building commitment which makes us act. Kind of like making your own bed and now you have to sleep on it kind of thing. Another thing is that the greener pastures are indeed out there, but it's like a needle in a haystack when it comes to really looking for it.
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My dad was silent, he did well at hiding the repugnant feeling that her comment gave him, but I knew him well enough to see how he felt. How could he ever imagine loving a paraplegic in a wheelchair, who eats like an animal, drools like a baby, and has a colostomy bag hanging outside her body? This wasn’t the woman he’d married; this wasn’t even the woman who’d divorced him. He’d known a beautiful, slender, lady with spunk.


Sweetie, this bothers me a lot. What if she and you dad had never got divorced? would he still have thought of her as repugnant? She's still herself, just in a different body.
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She's still herself, just in a different body.


dharma: this attitude frustrates me. Is he not allowed to feel what he really feels if he is indeed repulsed by it? Society expects one to stand by the spouse no matter what - and even in this case he wasn't expected, but even if he was, he's not allowed to feel what he feels? Poor guy. Not only is he dealing with this conflict, he's also beaten down for being perceived as shallow and insensitive.
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I am from a divorced family as well.  My father never attempted to see me once it was over except once when he took me to a bar (I was 4).

My only regret?  I never had a chance to confront him.  But there is no love lost there.  for I never knew him.

I am sorry for your father.  But your mother married too young and needed to live.  She chose wrongly.  Your father never stopped loving your mother and that is why he died lonely.

But staying in a loveless marriage is not the answer.  We all marry with the hope of always being together and growing old together.  But often one party (in this case your mother) enters the marriage in a lie.  They may not know it at the time, but if there is not truth at the beginning, it will unravel.

I know, I had it first hand as well.  I was Don Quixote, and rescued my Dulcinea.  But she never loved me.  After 20 years of catering to her and trying to make it work, I gave up. Am I bad?  Perhaps.  Perhaps I should have stayed the martyr.  But I did give up.

Am I a bad person?  No, I am just not a saint.  I never will be either.  But not being perfect does not make one evil.

Forgive your parents.  Obsessing over it will not bring you happiness.  learning from it may.

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Society expects one to stand by the spouse no matter what -


Because that's what love is supposed to be about. If I were to turn to my husband tonight and ask him "honey, would you still love me if I had a stroke, drooled all over myself and you had to feed me and change my colostomy bag" and he said "no, I'd think you were repulsive"....well, what kind of basis for a relationship would that be?
I'm not calling him insensitive and shallow, after all I don't know the ins and outs of the entire divorce. He probably has a very good reason to dislike her, one that's not based in her appearance.

Forgive your parents.


Ne'er a truer word was spoken
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Forgive your parents. Ne'er a truer word was spoken


Thank you, Dr. Guy & Dharmagrl. That's very true. I suppose I didn't touch on that aspect of my feelings about my parents.
I'm almost 30 years old now...and although it's hard to think what crap they put our family through, I do forgive them. I really do. Nobody's perfect; we all make mistakes. Forever resenting my parents would be too much baggage to carry. So I really do try to let it go, and just replace the angst with love.

I love my dad for being a real person, a hard worker, and he really did know how to love. He loved so much that it hurt him sometimes.

I love my mom because she's, well, my mom. She showed my brother & me a great work ethic too; rain, snow, or shine, she always got us ready in the mornings, out the door, and off to school, then it was off to work for her. Every single day. I thought that was a normal thing until I looked around me and saw many people not being as responsible and goal-oriented.

So yeah, I oughta focus on my parents' strong points. The purpose of the article was simply to think...what if they hadn't gotten divorced. There are many other angles to focus on though.
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My dad was silent, he did well at hiding the repugnant feeling that her comment gave him, but I knew him well enough to see how he felt. How could he ever imagine loving a paraplegic in a wheelchair, who eats like an animal, drools like a baby, and has a colostomy bag hanging outside her body? This wasn’t the woman he’d married; this wasn’t even the woman who’d divorced him. He’d known a beautiful, slender, lady with spunk.


I thought about this too, but being a person who had to deal with someone you thought was special leaving you... isn't it possible that he feel like, "oh sure, NOW you love me after treating me like "____".

That is how I would feel. You divorce me, and take your life downhill, then you come to some realization that I was good to you?

Not to mention what you put the family through and treating yourself they way you did.

I think he had a whole bunch of feelings when she said 'I love you'
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Good point, joeKnowledge. I gave you an "Insightful" for that one. It's an eye-opener to hear objective analyses about this. For me, sometimes it's hard to see the forest for the trees. JoeUser is a great tool to invite others to look into our lives and show us new ways to look at things. Thank you!
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So yeah, I oughta focus on my parents' strong points. The purpose of the article was simply to think...what if they hadn't gotten divorced. There are many other angles to focus on though.


You are very wise already. Unlike most people, you have taken something that was not good and have already turned it into a lesson for you life. We usually are a lot older before we realize that aspect of life.
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You are very wise already. Unlike most people, you have taken something that was not good and have already turned it into a lesson for you life. We usually are a lot older before we realize that aspect of life.


Heh, my mom used to always say that I was wise beyond my years. I don't know where she came up with that observation, as she didn't even know me very well at the time, but hey, I'll gracefully take the compliment from the both of you.

So you've earned an "Insightful" for flattering me

I feel like handing out Insightfuls like candy today.
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Unlike most people, you have taken something that was not good and have already turned it into a lesson for you life. We usually are a lot older before we realize that aspect of life.


Amen to that.....
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You know what I was just thinking? I'm baring my soul here, and my whole life story is gradually unfolding as I write these articles, BITTERSWEET as it is. Thank you all for leaving comments, and giving me invaluable insights.

Now I want to ask, Now that all of these strangers have peered into my soul, Where is my family??? I've seen a couple of my in-laws here once or twice, and I thank my in-laws wholeheartedly for wanting to get to know the lass who married their darling John. As for my own extended family...Are you all ever going to learn how to use the internet??? You have links to my blog. I've tried to get you to overcome your fears of computers. I want to talk to you! And I want you to see inside my soul just as all of these strangers have. If strangers can appreciate what I've gone through, certainly my family might be remotely interested...I can only hope. I know life is busy, and blogging is an infectious hobby that many people haven't discovered yet...but oh, how wonderful it is.
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I got an insightful!!! I don't think I get many of those LOL

anyway, another thought: I would propose why he died alone was because he was very much still in love with the person he once knew and very much saddened by the outcome to the family and specifically his former wife.

When you love someone, you want what is best for them, even if it means they are not with you. He probably could deal with the divorce better if she treated herself mentally and physically better without putting herself in such danger.

This is how I felt.

We were not married but I loved her as such. We were best friends for years before we actually went out. The only reason why we were not married was because we were still in college and wanted to wait until after.


She had came out of a bad marriage prior to us getting together and I wanted the best for her and made sure she got it, including finishing her education.


When we bkorke up, I was very sad and depressed to the point of losing my job and most of my future as an deisnger and becoming a Architect. Then I thought at least SHE was happy and had a new man

It turns out he was a verbal abuser, just fresh out of jail and a drug dealer... who also has HIV... and didn't tell her.

Keep in mind that she has a child from a former marriage who not has to deal with the fact that her Mom can pass away from AIDS during her young life (as well as the person who she called 'father')


So in the end, I know how he feels. Dissapointed, hurt, alone, mad, angry, sad... you literally see the person you lovedistroyed before your eyes and it is the SAME person who distroyed you some time ago.

SO, when she said "I Love You", I am sure he wanted to hear it, but didn't at the same time.

I had nothing to do with her looks. My ex looks bautiful and shapely and I am still repulsed by the way SHE REALLY LOOKS to me; Hurt and destroyed.
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To all replyers who so graciously make excuses for Angela's mom, and so callously discount her father's unquestioning devotion...

In the immortal words of Col. Sherman T. Potter (M*A*S*H): "HORSE HOCKEY!!!"

She divorced him, rejected her family and took off on a collision course of hedonism and self gratification. When it all went bad for her, she made a show of "rebirth", but apparently the life's lessons that should have been hers were lost to her selfish, "feel bad for the victim of circumstance" attitude.

"She married to young", "greener pastures".. blah, blah, blah.

Then there is your father, Angela. He never left his family, not knowing your age, my guess is that he either raised you, or at least was there while you both waded through the pain of her leaving. Yes, he was repulsed by what had become of the love of his life, but through his feeligns of disgust... he was there.

Marriage vows are taken at whatever age, but guess what boys and girls, making the vows is the easy part. Every day living, making every day decisions, facing every problem, temptation and weakness, EVERY DAY! Is what marriage is all about. It isn't about what was happening in our lives when we made the vows, it is about keeping them, even after time, experiences and reality has had its way with us.

“I still love you.” ??? I don't know what kind of woman she was when your father and she got married, but from the time she decided to go for those "greener pastures", I seriously doubt she even knew what those words meant anymore.

Of course, there are situations where divorce is the only alternative left. However, it is the result of one person's actions proving that their selfishness is more important than the marriage. Unfortunately, it happens, and all the excuses in the world can't make the selfish acts more palatable.

In the end Angela, it breaks my heart to hear that your loving father ended up a broken man. Apparently his love for her could not make him do the one thing that would have helped him get over her and on with his life... and that would have been to forgive her and let the pain go.

I sincerely hope that you can do what your father could not. While their choices do affect your life (you would be pretty heartless if they didn't), they were their choices. You are the only one who can decide how much that affect will control your life. Forgive them both for their weaknesses of the flesh, leave the pain behind you. Doing so will make these awful experiences a source of strength in your life, instead of an anchor on your eternal progression.

Please don't let their weaknesses be your downfall.

((((((((((((((Angela)))))))))))))

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Then there is your father, Angela. He never left his family, not knowing your age, my guess is that he either raised you, or at least was there while you both waded through the pain of her leaving. Yes, he was repulsed by what had become of the love of his life, but through his feeligns of disgust... he was there.


Um, actually, I left out another icky twist to the story. My dad, who was already already an alcoholic, added crack cocaine to his regimine after my mom divorced him. So while he made all of the outward displays of raising my brother & me, the public school system can truly be the only one credited for raising us. I intentionally left that part out of the article because it would have provided too much distraction from my point, "Divorce is Bad." But how dare I try to censor & sterilize reality for analytical purposes? Hmmm...

I sincerely hope that you can do what your father could not. While their choices do affect your life (you would be pretty heartless if they didn't), they were their choices. You are the only one who can decide how much that affect will control your life. Forgive them both for their weaknesses of the flesh, leave the pain behind you. Doing so will make these awful experiences a source of strength in your life, instead of an anchor on your eternal progression.

Please don't let their weaknesses be your downfall.


Thank you. Yep, I'm trying to just learn from their mistakes, and build on the GOOD things they taught me. And love them for all of it. And best of all, FORGET IT and move on, stronger and better.

I blush with flattery that you're putting so much effort into dissecting and analyzing this situation for me. Sadly, I seem to have overspent my "Insightful" privileges for the day...I didn't even stop to consider that such a nice perq would have its limitations, and rightfully so. I'd give ya another one here if I could. When I get a recharge I'll slap you one.
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joeKnowledge, I'm so sorry that your lady left you and chose a creep afterwards. Sheesh. Yes, it sort of parallels what my mom did to my dad. In personal reflection, I hereby vow to not be a crazy lady. It appears that the world could use more sane, loving women in the world.

Again, I'm out of "Insightfuls" (who knew it could happen?) but you've earned another if I can get my priviledges back.
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In the immortal words of Col. Sherman T. Potter (M*A*S*H): "HORSE HOCKEY!!!"


ParaTed2k, you quoted M*A*S*H. You're too cool!
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Um, actually, I left out another icky twist to the story. My dad, who was already already an alcoholic, added crack cocaine to his regimine after my mom divorced him. So while he made all of the outward displays of raising my brother & me, the public school system can truly be the only one credited for raising us. I intentionally left that part out of the article because it would have provided too much distraction from my point, "Divorce is Bad." But how dare I try to censor & sterilize reality for analytical purposes? Hmmm...


Ok, well this definitely changes a few details of my reply, but not the jist of it, which you seem to have gotten anyway.

I blush with flattery that you're putting so much effort into dissecting and analyzing this situation for me. Sadly,


My adult life has been spent training for, responding to, and commenting on "Personal Tragedy, Disasters, Wars and Other Things the Just Plain Suck". The experience you relate in this article would definitely fall under a couple of those categories. It is a rare hobby, and one that I would love to see fall into the cesspool of historic irrelevance. However, as you know all too well, the rarity of those of us who engage in the hobby is only matched by the prevelance of examples.

In other words, I really didn't put much thought into my reply, it just kind of what I do. I'm glad you took it well though. ;~D
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I hereby vow to not be a crazy lady


What a wonderful vow! You have a place in my heart already

Where is my family???


We're all your family Angela Marie!
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Hey AndyBaker, nice to meetcha. I'd like to note that you created your blog on my 29th birthday. Now write something in it!
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Nice to meet you too Angela. I never figured out how to create a blog site, so I left it that way. I don't have much to write anyway, other than Happy (belated) Birthday!!
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... and you have a mighty pretty name, AngelaMarie, I must admit.

. . . but you know what? There are no greener pastures for me. The greenest pastures for me can only be found by improving myself rather than trying to find someone else who matches my fantasy. Our marriage will grow richer and stronger as we both strive upwards...together, and in the same direction. I'm not going to run away.


That's profound. It's a myth that the grass is greener on the other side. Green pastures grow from within when we keep our integrity, and when we love ourself and our partner. It's the tough times that provide us with opportunities to grow, rather than providing us with opportunities to look elsewhere for the next pretty young thing. Whilst the latter leads nowhere, the former can lead to a secure foundation.

Fair enough, for some people, divorce or separation can be the right thing, but when making such decisions we should follow our heart, rather than following any shallow passions.

A good article, AngelaMarie. And you have such a gorgeous name!
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And you have such a gorgeous name!


(I hope it's not over the line saying that to a married woman. Trust gives room to a bit of space after all)
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AndyBaker, it's been a month since you wrote it, but here's an insightful to you for:
Green pastures grow from within when we keep our integrity, and when we love ourself and our partner. It's the tough times that provide us with opportunities to grow, rather than providing us with opportunities to look elsewhere for the next pretty young thing. Whilst the latter leads nowhere, the former can lead to a secure foundation.

And Yes, Angela Marie is a gorgeous name, but I have no right to boast because it was my parents' choice. But do you want to know what their pet name for me was? (It will shatter all of your visions of Angela Marie.) They called me "Turkey Butt." Yep. No lie. And when asked, neither of them have been able to remember why. My brother got a good pet name, though. Tiger.

I've always had qualms about my ugly surname though (which I kept even after marriage). I've dreamt up a fabulous surname that I'd love to adopt some day. So if you ever hear of a woman named "Angela Marie Starr," then you'll know that my dream has come true. I'm suddenly curious; I'm going to google that name.
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"She's still herself, just in a different body"
Dharma the person you say she still is is the woman who left her husband out of selfishness. How could he have any personal attraction to her after that? It was over once she left.