Back from GalCiv vacation, but now frustrated

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Well, I've just come back from a several month GalCiv hiatus and realized how much I liked the game. But, after starting a medium sized game at normal, I've run into a scenario that leaves a bad taste.

I'm down to only two opponents, the Altarians and Yor. I am allied with the Altarians and the Yor are "friendly" towards me. We all share the same morality rating of 'saintly'. The Yor are allied with the Altarians.

I have tried everything I can to get the Yor to ally with me, mainly because I just don't have the patience to go through a military or cultural campaign. I'm now trying to finish the game only out of trying to close up loose ends, and not out of excitement. I've given the Yor all my techs, countless ships, money, influence, and luxuries, but they will not budge from "friendly". I mean, if they're allied with the Altarians as am I, and we're all the same morality, why am I having to spend 400 turns to get somewhere?

It's just becoming a click, click, click on the next turn button type of game. Am I missing something key here?

-Anx
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Reply #1 from Stardock Forums Top
If you want to end it quick you should try to give the Yor 1000bc for 1 million turns. That nomally boost them all to close and offer your Techs and TGs for the actuall alliance
Reply #2 from Stardock Forums Top
I mean, if they're allied with the Altarians as am I, and we're all the same morality, why am I having to spend 400 turns to get somewhere?
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I have found the same thing. I was in that situation and now am at war with a previous ally. I was allied with two of the three AIs. The two AI I was allied with were not allied to each other. I could not, no matter how much I offered get the 3rd AI to ally with me.

Then one of the AIs started a war with the third AI, who was allied with the other AI I was allied with. The first AI called upon me to enforce our alliance and my council delcared war. The second AI then broke my alliance and declared war on me because I had declared war on his other ally.

Now where was I? :D :D :D :D

Oh well, now they all have Excalibers except me - so guess who is being blown accross the galaxy
Sins of a Solar Empire II
Reply #4 from Stardock Forums Top
Well, I was thinking of maybe picking a fight with the Yor in the hopes that my Altarian ally would come to defend me. The Altarians are rated as the strongest militarily, so with my combined arms it should be a short battle. Just didn't want to tkae a military approach to a peaceful environment. I guess in my case, it will be impossible to win an alliance victory...

-Anx
Reply #5 from Stardock Forums Top
5000bc x 10,000 turns will swing them. Save before in case it doesnt (making sure you have researched Alliance). Then once they love you (close) after the 'bung', offer them a trade good or two for alliance. This should work if you do all AI's in one turn.
Reply #6 from Stardock Forums Top
Well, I was thinking of maybe picking a fight with the Yor
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I am totally agreeing with on your choice of kicking the Yors A*s! ;) ;)
Reply #7 from Stardock Forums Top
Stupid Yor... I was just recalling that they had started a war with me and others awfully early in the game. I was able to resist, barely, and was able to sue for peace shortly after their declaration. I bet that has something to do with their reluctance. Anyways, I think I'm going to try to offer them a planet or two near their space and see if that makes a difference. If not, I'll send my Avatars over to say 'hello' in a fairly robust way.

More to come...
-cc
Reply #8 from Stardock Forums Top
Mate are you looking for the the empire who hates Yor?!
You just did found them...
have a look here http://guardians.galciv.org

:)
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Reply #11 from Stardock Forums Top
Ok, I take back my frustration. I started up the game again and on the first turn back I offered the Yor a fine PQ 22 planet near their homeworld. Their stance towards me turned immediately to close. I then asked for an alliance and was granted one without any additional offerings. Click the 'turn' button and I won. So, in the end, I could have offered up a planet earlier and avoided the few hundreds turns to get the win.

Started a new game last night. I don't plan on being as nice to the Yor this time around... heh heh heh...

-cc
Reply #12 from Stardock Forums Top
I don't plan on being as nice to the Yor this time around
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That's the spirit! :HOT:
Reply #13 from Stardock Forums Top
You seem to be using quite an old version. There have been many updates to GalCiv. You get a lot more points that way too.

And we aren't all heartless monsters that promote violence. ;) http://diplomats.galciv.org
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Reply #14 from Stardock Forums Top
Diplomacy... The fine art of lies. ;p
Reply #15 from Stardock Forums Top
Nope - using the latest greatest version downloaded from StarDock just a few days ago.
Reply #16 from Stardock Forums Top
Switching trade routes over to the Yor might have helped swing them from Friendly to Close.

Trade routes are a very powerful tool in the Alliance game.
Reply #17 from Stardock Forums Top
Nope - using the latest greatest version downloaded from StarDock just a few days ago.
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Ok, I take it then you did not submit your last game then.
Reply #18 from Stardock Forums Top
Yep - correct. I hadn't submitted. I was playing on an offline when I won. I think my score was something like 5200. No idea if that is good or bad. Just happy to have won.
Reply #19 from Stardock Forums Top
Yep - correct. I hadn't submitted. I was playing on an offline when I won. I think my score was something like 5200. No idea if that is good or bad. Just happy to have won.
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You could always save before the end (there is an automatic endgame save) and load the game when you are online. Some (like Lothmorg) have done this when they go on holidays. for few days, there isn't any submission, and suddenly, lots of games are submitted in the same day