[quote]He can invest or spend his money elsewhere.[/quote] you didnt read the answer to that above? here it is copied from my previous comment: [quote]which is better, putting those $100 into savings where they will be sitting there with no larger market to invest them into, or get those $80 into the market so you create investment opportunities for the rest of the savings? it is either just accumula
[quote]The downside is if it went too far it would make businesses risk lovers, and the bankers have recently shown what can happen when you encourage people to take on excessive risk without sufficient return.[/quote] that is true ... no one is advocating going back to 70% tax or even to 100% tax on higher incomes as it used to be ... at around 35-40 %, i dont think we
[quote]In short, your beliefs do have consequences whether you realize it or not.[/quote] They sure do ..... and here is one of yours ... and it is affecting your thinking even though it has no basis whatsoever [quote]Me: I'm against raising the taxes on anyone, including the top 5%. Tax Supporter: Why? You can afford to pay more in taxes. You've got a big hou
[quote]from 1993 to 2000, the increase was a total of about $7500 i.e 13% (7500/57633) during those 8 yrs ... (all figures are adj for inflations and from the NY times also)[/quote] Correction: that should have been 15% (7500/50133) ... the editor stinks ... impossible to edit sometimes [quote]Since I expect you stil
[quote]Where do you get your data for this claim?[/quote] well mason, from those same numbers you posted. if you took time to just add things up here is what you would have discovered: $51970 is 90% of the income in 2000. i.e income in 2000 was$57633. now, the total increase up to 2006 was $5770 ... that puts the avrg in
[quote] People do exist who work as hard (maybe harder) than any CEO in the US and simply don't make as much money. I mean, I exist, right?[/quote] They know that you exist ... but according to them it is your fault that you are not smart enough to make lots of money ... ( btw, these are the same people who make Joe the Plumber their hero) ... and if you have to throw y
[quote]It's no fallacy. Let people spend their own money as they want. If they make foolish investments they will pay the cost. Greed is the easy target, and is the wrong one, since it is greed you can rely on to make things better - if I'm greedy, I'm not going to want to throw away my money on some reckless scheme.[/quote] No fallacy????!!!! Read what you said again .
[quote]Very good analysis of what Reagan did ... cut taxes (prices/profit per item in your example) and realized more revenue as a result of the increased tax base (made more money).[/quote] Nice try !!! [e digicons]:D[/e] In the beginning yes it did ... till recession of 81/82 started .. then he was forced to increase it on the rich ... bush I did the same thing (and l
[quote]The numbers don't have to be exact for the argument to remain. Times the numbers by 10 if it makes you happy. Ironically though you saying this is actually supporting what ThinkAloud was arguing [/quote] Isnt that amazing that some one had to explain that to him?!!!!! unfortunately, you make a similar mistake !!!!
[quote]It's for investors and banks to decide what an appropriate level of gearing is really [/quote] well..... we now know to where that leads ... "business/investors know best" .... is a huge fallacy that is at the core of the current fanancial crises ... not just crisis. First they applied that fallacy and let them swall
[quote]your higher taxes goes to people who cant afford your product without them ... with it, they go and buy more and you make even more than what you paid extra in taxes[/quote] btw, isnt that the same idea behind the "Sale" concept employed by every consumer-based business? they cut the price (in effect they cut their profits) .... and you think they do that for fun?
[quote]I'm interested in a flat tax or the fair tax. It would be interesting to see a real debate on these two approaches.[/quote] That has been debated to death !!! if i make $100 a week and pay 15% taxes on it ... net $85 and you make $500 a week and pay 15% taxes ... net $425 a
[quote]it is important if we're going to help pay for some of these expenditures that are absolutely necessary to get our economy back on track that those who are in a position to pay a little more do so.[/quote] Keep in mind that the "little more" is exactly what they were paying before Bush's tax cut .... and during that time everyone and especially those "poor" rich people made a killing and became much much rich
[quote]At the drop of a hat Citibank gets its second bailout while the Big 3 must sit in the corner of the classroom for not doing their homework[/quote] I am in no way way shape or form happy with the way this bailout business to the finacial system's crooks is being handled with no conditions or oversight requirements (although they say it is included in the bailout rules). <span style="font-size: s
[quote]so far and after more than 1400 yrs no scholar was able to explain the two verses by anything more than repeating what they say ... [/quote] Here is what He (i.e. God) says about our inability to understand those major concepts: Talk
[quote]or "Hashem"[/quote] What a magnificent word !!!! I didnt know that it is a Hebrew word too [quote]BTW, you are doing a real service on TC blog. Thank you.[/quote] both of you are ... and Thanks for both of you and for LW also. [quote]Words are powerful
[quote]You see that's the problem RELIGION has led to was to many times to count with people of one religion killing anyone of a different religion in the NAME OF G-D, what a joke! IF I had my way all religion wiould be banished from the planet.[/quote] [quote]And there is the crux of the whole situation, every "RELIGION" thinks their way is THE ONLY WAY" no proof needed. they just "KNOW!"[/quote] <spa
[quote]And how do you know, not believe, _know_ which religion and which god is true?[/quote] That was my point in saying that regardless of which religion you believe in, it is all essentially the same ... and they all lead to the same God. So arguing about which one is the true God is really meaningless. All religions essentially say the same thing ... the only difference is "who" that God is. and to th
[quote]my first books I took to heart after the war was Omar's Rubaiya[/quote] Truly amazing !!! i didnt mention the name of the peom i had in mind in order not to confuse you ... and here you are already read it and know all about it !!! that peom is the one that was put to music and sung by Um-Kalthum. if you know Arabic and hear that song ... you get into a trance ... i am not kidding ... the music and
[quote]based on what? Don't just tell me you believe. Tell me where this belief comes from. [/quote] Comes from this KFC !!! [quote]...."And He said, 'Let us make man to our image and likeness:..." The plural here insinuates a plurality of Persons in God.[/quote] [quote]Jesus answer was "go tell John all that you have seen an
[quote]First off how dare you assume you know how I think![/quote] I dont know how anyone thinks MM, i am mearly saying that i think none of us, especially nowadays, can really approach the true meaning of the statement "I love God". If you are the exception, then you really achieved something remarkable and great. That of course is possible, nothing is impossible when it comes t
[quote]How do people love someone they've never met, much less understand? I always found that very interesting[/quote] You know Zoo, you are making me say something i always wanted to say about that. You are absolutely correct. People, and of course MM here, say they "love God" .... and they dont think of how serious that statement is <span style="fo
[quote]A Jewish or Islamic fundamentalist who insists that His way is the only way, is not a faithful Jew or Muslim.[/quote] I also agree completely .... The problem i always have with this issue of "our way or no way" particularly among the 3 Abrahamic religions is that if you look even casually to the three of them ... they are IDENTICAL in what they say about what Go
[quote]I do not believe the torah uses a term that can be translated as "Father" either, but our prayerbook is has a few such references as I described earlier. We are taught though to be very careful in not understanding such words to be literal as we have a prohibition, as do you, against making an image of God. [/quote] I have always believed that neither Torah nor Injeel (original Bible) would ever say that
[quote]TA, just curious, then, do Muslims understand Allah to be their creator? If so, it's not a stretch to understand Allah as a parental figure in the sense of being a progenitor. [/quote] I have always assumed that you already KNOW that.!!! shows you how doing that is always a bad thing [e digicons]:D[/e] For any muslim child, the first thing he/she knows about Alla
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