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Reply to Howard's Practical Reconciliation Might Work in Politics JoeUser Forums

Thanks maso. I was beginning to worry that no one cared. But can I ask you, what do you think about Howard's new approach? Don't be afraid to disagree with me. The petrol bowser initiative was as we have said, fairly archaic, but do you think Howard has shown improvement since that idea? If not, what do you suggest he needs to do? There are after all, practical elements of reconciliation that need to be considered as well. Is Howard dealing wi

Reply to Bush Admin. students of Nazi propaganda tactics? in Politics JoeUser Forums

BS, I think you make a compelling point about what Goering is trying to do and I thank you for finally engaging with the topic that Toblerone raised. Daiwa, you are welcome to your cynicism, but as a personal friend of Toblerone I am willing to disagree with you about his intentions. You have assumed that about Toblerone because many other people who have pointed out the similarities between Bush's tactics and Goering's statements also want to equate B

Reply to Bush Admin. students of Nazi propaganda tactics? in Politics JoeUser Forums

"Because a policeman and a robber both say "Hands in the Air", that means the policeman and the robber are both ethically similar?" No I said that was a matter for debate. "Is it ethical to use Nazi propaganda techniques? is a separate issue to whether Bush did do so. "Has anyone heard the phrase "Night of the Long Knives"? I defy you to compare the supposed pressure put on the American people and politicians to what happened to peopl

Reply to Bush Admin. students of Nazi propaganda tactics? in Politics JoeUser Forums

BS, I am beginning to understand what LW finds so tiring about having to restete evrything a million times. "You may not believe that he was lying, but the question still remains, is it ethical?" You are stuck on this endless debate about whether GW2 was justified. In the process the JU Right have all assumed I think it wasn't. That is false. The topics of debate are: Has Bush used the same language techniques as the Na

Reply to Bush Admin. students of Nazi propaganda tactics? in Politics JoeUser Forums

Once again the JU Right fails to engage in actual debate, preferring to resort to infantile tactics of "You called me Hitler, you called me Hitler!!", which was not at all what Toblerone did. You all kepp rabbiting on about the killing of the Jews. This quote is nothing at all to do with the atrocities committed by Hitler, it has only to do with rhetorical and propagandfist techniques. It is a debate about language. Before I go on, Daiwa, apol

Reply to The Koran and the Terrorists in War on Terror JoeUser Forums

Andrew, you do indeed put it well, though I think so did Dude. May I ask, would you equally deny prisoner's rights to the Bible, considering it is supposedly a religion of peace, in spite of all the violence committed in its name. However, your unsubstantiated assertion that the Muslim community does not speak out against terrorism simply revelas your ignorance. Perhaps you need to move outside the mainstream media and JU for your sou

Reply to The Koran and the Terrorists in War on Terror JoeUser Forums

Andrew, you do indeed put it well, though I think so did Dude. May I ask, would you equally deny prisoner's rights to the Bible, considering it is supposedly a religion of peace, in spite of all the violence committed in its name. However, your unsubstantiated assertion that the Muslim community does not speak out against terrorism simply revels your ignorance. Perhaps you need to move outside the mainstream media and JU for your sour

Reply to Bush Admin. students of Nazi propaganda tactics? in Politics JoeUser Forums

"Well, who's to say that the people have been brainwashed? Because a majority opinion is different from yours, that is no 'proof' that the people have been brainwashed." Surely, that is the question raised by Toblerone? I do not argue that on the basis that their opinion is different from mine, in fact Toblerone recently expressed surprise at my recent positivity regarding the Iraq War. I would argue that the people were deliberately misled an

Reply to Bush Admin. students of Nazi propaganda tactics? in Politics JoeUser Forums

AARRRGGHH! Sorry Toblerone. I'm not trying to triple post, but I can't get it to delete those comments. You'll have to have a go mate.

Reply to Bush Admin. students of Nazi propaganda tactics? in Politics JoeUser Forums

Daiwa you make many assumptions in your criticisms of my response. I have not equated Bush with Hitler at all. In fact, at other times I have been quite critical of people who have done so. But that does not mean that Bush has not learned some techniques from the people in charge of propaganda for Hitler. It does not make Bush in any way Hitlerian, just as it does not make Bush in any way Aristotlean to use some of Aristotle's techniques. By using Aris

Reply to Bush Admin. students of Nazi propaganda tactics? in Politics JoeUser Forums

Not the most original blog you've done Toblerone, but it's good to see you finally getting political. Para, how exactly does the re-election prove that the people haven't been dragged along/brainwashed exactly? I'm not saying there aren't Americans who can make legitimate arguments for the Iraq War (although most of those people don't seem to have anything to do with the Bush administration and are more likely to reside at JU) but there has

Reply to Do you miss me when i don't visit? in Blogging JoeUser Forums

Cute. They grow up so fast. Good on you for not blogging btw, whatever your reasons were. Better to go enjoy life.

Reply to Why are JoeUser Conservatives so Goddamn Self-Righteous? in Misc JoeUser Forums

Nicely put. Everyone has double standards and everyone don't see it.

Reply to People vs. Opinions in Blogging JoeUser Forums

It's interesting that the article you are responding to was featured but this wasn't. It's also interesting that your point is a point that LW has made time and time again (less eloquently) and she usually meets with much praise for doing so, yet this forum is fairly quiet. I think you are right. There is a very important, distinct, yet subtle difference between criticising an organisation and criticising its actions. The thing is that people

Reply to People vs. Opinions in Blogging JoeUser Forums

It's interesting that the article you posted was featured but this wasn't. It's also interesting that this is a point that LW has made time and time again (less eloquently) and she usually metts with much praise for doing so, yet this forum is fairly quiet. I think you are right. There is a very important, distinct, yet subtle difference between criticisng an organisation and criticising its actions. The thing is that people tend to feel some

Reply to Dems Deny Non-Black Americans Opportunity To Catch Up! in Politics JoeUser Forums

A very funny article with a good point behind it. Daiwa says: "It appears the opinion of at least some blacks is rather the opposite of yours." What? There is diversity of opinion among black people? That's a relief. At least now we'll have a way of telling them apart.

Reply to The Last Christmas in Misc JoeUser Forums

Very laconic, Australian style. You can feel the dryness in the storytelling which permeates so much Aussie yarn-telling. I mean that in a good way by the way. What I mean is someone like Jack Thompson or Russell Crowe could have read it in their dry voices and it would have sounded appropriate. I preferred "Crushed", because it had a little more story to it, and I feel you could have fleshed out the cancer bit more. It seems like you rushed the end.

Howard's Practical Reconciliation Might Work in Politics JoeUser Forums

When Johnny Howard abolished ATSIC and replaced it with a board of coconuts, I expressed scepticism. The Labor Party still maintains the Aboriginal board should be democratically elected. I argued at the time that ATSIC should have been reformed rather than abolished. Let’s have a look at how “practical reconciliation” is going, as it is the issue most dear to my hear

Reply to How a local tribe in my home county handled a child molester in Humor JoeUser Forums

Fwahhh! Harsh but fair.

Reply to JU's Top 10 Americans - The Results! in Blogging JoeUser Forums

It's a better list than Discovery's, but certainly also very, very cliched/predictable.

Reply to JU's Top 10 Americans in Blogging JoeUser Forums

"I never called you un-American." I never said you did Dr Guy. Although, to be pedantic, I have no quarrel with the label "un-American", as I am Australian, and thus probably by definition unAmerican. But I would not count myself as anti-American, as some others have accused me. I don't think you can quite accuse my list of the same obsession with contemporaries as the Discovery list. Several members of my list are dead, some for

Reply to JU's Top 10 Americans in Blogging JoeUser Forums

OK, well here's an ousider's viewpoint. Those of you who have called me an anti-American may be surprised to learn I've spent a couple of hours researching this and trying to whittle down my list to the following...12 (sorry that was the best I could do) in no particular order: 1. Martin Luther King Jr 2. Rosa Parks (the black lady who refused to give up her seat for a white man on the bus) 3. Michael Apple (educational theorist -

Reply to What Political Persuasion are you? in Politics JoeUser Forums

That's the crappiest of the political quizzes yet!!! It didn't even offer me the option of answering that NO ONE should get a tax cut, that abortion is morally wrong but should be decided by BOTH partners as their own decision, or that I associate myself more with Nader and the Greens. And how exactly does one measure the size of Government? Clinton seems fatter than Bush, but only when Monica's in the room.

Reply to Liberal Republican? in Politics JoeUser Forums

An insightful article about my pet topic: the concept that "Left" and "Right" are silly labels that were created solely for people who like to argue. "Great article Tex, and I wouldnt worry about any label that some retarded quiz slapped on me. I mean c'mon, anyone can devise and post a quiz, was this one supposed to be scientific or something?" That is the funniest and most insightful thing LW has ever said. She and I are agreein

Reply to Michael Jackson Found Guilty! in Current Events JoeUser Forums

An insightful and funny article! While it is important for a democratic society to have open court proceedings that can be evaluated by the public, trial by media is not working. People base their judgments on such silly emotive ideas. Just look at the court of public opinion discussing the Schappelle Corby case in Bali!