What is the significance of the fact that at Bush's very first cabinet meeting, the issue of invading Iraq was discussed? OK Gene, now your talking out both sides of your mouth. On one side your saying Woodward's book is correct about General's wanting more troops for Iraq. Yet, your willing to ignore that Woodward also said in his bo
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The only thing I haveto say about that is this: Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except all those others that have been tried from time to time. Winston Churchill
As I stated, the polls vary a lot. There's really no way to know until next year. We'll see. Agree
I was referring to the upcoming elections in 2006. There are a ton of polls there indicating that people would rather see Democrats controlling congress. Some polls it's not a huge margin, but some show a preference of Democrat by as much as 17%. Thanks Davad for the link (something many don't provide a
About 100 Sunni, Shiite and Kurdish leaders, many of whom will run in the election on Dec. 15, signed a closing memorandum on Monday that "demands a withdrawal of foreign troops on a specified timetable, dependent on an immediate national program for rebuilding the security forces," the statement said.
I know you guys don't like polls around here too much, but if you take a look at them you'll see the GOP losing ground to the democrats at a very alarming rate. Davad Could you provide a link or two to polls saying that the Democrats are gaining ground in the 2008 elections. Because the polls
Shall we go the German and French route where we take vast quantities of profitsa away from corporations that do their business inside our borders? That would surely keep them here right? Only if you want 10% (France) or 12% (Germany) unemployment rates also.
Either the BBC or the Military' FIELD ARTILLERY MANUAL is lying or you can YOU CANT BE BOTH TELLING THE TRUTH. The field manual is not lying, but the field manual would also state within it if it was restricted by the Geneva Convention, it does not. One simple fact, it is not used in massive amounts, and it's used in combat (or combat exercises) by every military(to include the Swiss Army)as a conventional weapon. <img src="http://images.stardock.com/JU/smiles/
The Bush militarey records document he did not attend drills ANYWARE for 5 months. Again it don't matter if he did not attend drill for six months. He did all his SUTA (drill days) and annual training ahead of time, with the authorization from his commander. It is all in his pay documents (you know th
The best statement I have heard about Bush's WMD statements came from the talking head John Gibson on FOX news last night: Remember, if Bush were going to lie about something, why would he send 150,000 U.S. troops to discover the lie and put it on display before the world and the American voter? Link <img src="http://images.stardock.com/JU/smiles/Laugh.gif" border=0 ALIGN="
If I remember correctly Lee is in the guard and in an admin position. My experience is over twelve years in Reserve and Guard units, with ten of those as an Active Guard and over six years in regular active service. While I am not in an Admin Sergeants position presently, I have acted in that position in the past (the majority of that time was i
There is no such approval and a commander does not have the authority to override regulations that require drill attendence or taking the flight physical. So as a Battalion Commander, you never let a soldier SUTA a drill? In an aviation unit, pilots and flight crews SUTA about half their drills. To st
It was NOT up to him to miss drills, or to not participate in the exercise his unit was in It is if his SUTA had the OK from his commander, by SUTAing those drills and conducted home stations Annual training on an earlier date. (i.e. Commander's discretion) The commander’s approval of his SUTA is the
the PRC is the legitimate government of mainland China. And Taiwan isn't mainland... The Island of Taiwan was only part of China for eight years (because they decided to annex the Island even without the Island Government's approval). In 1895 the Chinese signed over the island to Japan duri
Nothing any of you have said changes those facts about the service of Bush. We went through this earlier this year or late last year. You ignored all the facts then about Bush had SUTA his drills earlier in the year, and the "Commander Discretion" statements in the Regulations then (something I am sur
China -or- Taiwan China -or- Tibet India -or- Pakistan (Kashmir province) Israel -or- Palestine Taiwan - Because they are the original legitimate Government for China (and its UN veto vote). Taiwan was legally part of China for 8 years (1887-1895) and an occupying force for fo
The only thing the Dem's constant tar-n-feather attempts and fabrications do is make me NOT want to vote for them. IMO at this time, the constantly whining Dems are the Republican's best asset.
many of the grandparents and parents of todays rioters were recruited in their native countries and brought to france by manufacturers who wanted a cheap labor pool the rioters have seen how hard their fathers and grandfathers worked for low wages and how quickly they were let go. I agree completely and
We had mass riots and looting in the late 1960's, they are suffering the same now (but IMO much worse). While we learned from our mistakes and intigrated our police force, I'll bet you ten to one the French still don't do that.
Gen Franks is the second general that said we needed more troops. His op Plan 1003 called for first 500,000 and then he did mofify that to 300,000. Bush sent 1/2 the 300,000 and less then 1/3 the 500,000. The only thing in Woodward's book is about the original model OPPLAN created in 1996, not Genera
No I have provided the info about TWO Generals best positioned to know what was required Gen. Shinsecki and Gen Franks. You better look ar what almost every senior officer has sai
you ask for generals that told Bush he needed more troops and then say that is not new. What I asked for was: Either provide links to interviews for Generals consulting President Bush at that time , or stop u
In a contentious exchange over the costs of war with Iraq, the Pentagon's second-ranking official today disparaged a top Army general's assessment of the number of troops needed to secure postwar Iraq. House Democrats then accused the Pentagon official, Paul D. Wolfowitz, of concealing internal administration estimates on the cost of fighting and rebuilding the country.<BR
First, Gen Franks who prepared Op Order 1003 for the invasion of Iraq called for 300,000 troops the day Saddam fell. A detailed summary of Gen. Franks Op Plan is contained in "Plan of Attack" by Bob Woodward and the 300,000 reference is on page 96. As I said elsewhere, I will have to get a look at that
Note that there is no mention of them wanting to know any information about the fact that there ARE secret prisons. Since holding Terrorist in covert prisons is not illegal, why investigate it and cause more clasified info to become public? While leaking the info on hidden prisons, that could result in prison breaks and risking the lives